genre clashes?

[hush-d]

was just wondering, have you guys ever faced like problems within your band whereby ur musicians prefer playing different genres. and like does it result in any problems. and wld u rather play in a band with all the band members liking the same genre or in a band with members influenced by different genres? ha, just curious. blame it on the timing i guess. studying too much makes u freaking morbid.
peace.

 

[Anubitsch]

yes, i have. quit, persuade them, or if all else fails try bribery. well when u play in a band, the main thing is to have one thing in common, n tht one thing is what u gonna play as a band. if nt, y have a band? Having influences n a particular fetish for music r 2 different things. u can have ur own tastes, bt u gotta decide what u want to make, or do as a band. if u think ur members cant agree with u, get out man get out n watch kid porn

 

[thor666]

it always happens from time to time... if a large majority of the band chooses to play a certain genre, the minority will be left out at the end of the day.

it doesn't help if say, you have members that just want to play... that's the big headache. because they don't place as much emphasis on the music.. the main emphasis is how good/technical their drums/guitar/bass sound. heck, they won't even care about the genre as long as there's doublepedal/scorching solos/bass solos.

i suppose u could have different liking for different genres, but at the end of the day, there needs to be some common ground, things that everyone can appreciate and work on... otherwise it's pretty difficult.

 

[hush-d]

i suppose u could have different liking for different genres, but at the end of the day, there needs to be some common ground, things that everyone can appreciate and work on... otherwise it's pretty difficult.

so you're saying that different likings is possible. ok, i take that. but what do u mean by a common ground? for instance?

 

[Anubitsch]

if im nt wrong, he means the band should have a common music interest. A particular style of music tht all of u r able n keen on playing/making.

 

[hush-d]

wont that be really difficult if the band members like different genres. just in my opinion lah. cos everyone would pursue a different style to their music right?

 

[ixora05]

yup. And compromise, maybe? like let each person choose a song and rotate. Do songs that all of you are agreeable on and occasionally a song that the minority want to play.

 

[nunob]

ok, had to give some input.

i think a band should think more in terms of sound direction, rather than what kind of genre of music they want to be playing/making.

it can be a jazz thing, a rock thing, or whatever. but at the end of the day its how those melodies work in the song arrangement. and how the arrangements are worked out. which can be basically linked to the sound direction the band is after.

and there must be one guy who decides on a sound direction, and whether the rest agree or not, that's up to them to voice out. but at the end of the day, it comes down to a lot of discipline in order not to have anyone feeling left out.

mighty fine example of this - B-Quartet! woohoo..

regards

 

[Anubitsch]

yeah like cater to each of the members' likings. mayb one session play ur kinda style other session some1 else's. bt as i said, if u find it really difficult, whats the use of sticking to this band?

 

[hush-d]

yup. And compromise, maybe? like let each person choose a song and rotate. Do songs that all of you are agreeable on and occasionally a song that the minority want to play.

actually that's not the problem. haha but it's more like when the band's trying to come up with originals? hahaha. yeah.

 

[Anubitsch]

hey tht would b fun Fuse each of ur persoanl favourites into 1 big new style!!

 

[sofyan]

my band kinda has that problem. but when song writing comes we just add all the shit together and in the end we have one big pile of shit. at least everyone has a piece of shit they like

 

[ChanMin]

well... to put things is perspective...

how about a blues dude trying to form a funk band with two metal heads...
they all like funk...they are good friends. but blues guy is fed up of the metal dudes forever trying to add chugging riffs and double pedal to the songs...

i think a clear and open discussion on a frequent basis is helpful to iron out band problems. for every band that sticks together happily.. im pretty sure there is 10 that disbands. ive been thru... quite a few bands... ever been in 4-5 at once b4.

it is possbie to gell with musicians from diff backgrounds and play stuff you dont like.

3notesabar actually told me once... that he doesnt actually love any particular genre but he loves music as a whole. maybe he didnt say until so wise and noble la... but thats the general idea la.

Learn what you dont understand. you might like it. i think its good to learn more genres.... you become wayy more versatile and auditions for bands/gigs work out great too. You add value to bands that you join.

if your band members dont see eye to eye with your genre... learn theirs. if its a personality clash then ... i guess no choice la... but if its musical taste difference...then at least there is sumthing you can do to fix this.

 

[thor666]

so you're saying that different likings is possible. ok, i take that. but what do u mean by a common ground? for instance?

hmm that's a tricky question.

i would see that there's very little chance of a ska player to work with a jazz player for instance... the roots of both genres are too far off.

however, i can possibly see a blues player work with a rock player, a pop player with a funk player.

it's hard to conclude for all genres what specifically the root of these common grounds in genres is though.

i liken it to the "game" example i learnt in lessons/from my friend. say if you define a "game" as some activity that is fun, then would professional Chess be fun? What about war games then? More stimulating? what about competitive games, where participants are under stress rather than fun?

it is difficult to pintpoint the single definition/root/cause of the common ground in that sense.. i suppose there isn't a very clear answer on this issue as it is subject to the actual genres in the context.

 

[thor666]

actually that's not the problem. haha but it's more like when the band's trying to come up with originals? hahaha. yeah.

haha... that's a whole new ball game... for instance, i listen to a lot of 80s glam rock, but i hardly write any good glam rock songs.

i do tell my members the same thing - i can't write a song by genre! :evil: i write songs as the song tell me where to go, rather than me commanding the song to go in a particular direction.

 

[serialninja]

my band has a metalhead, 2 guys who are into alternative rock and punk, a drummer who listens to everything from jazz to contemporary pop, and i'm an anal-retentive "no we can't make mistakes. ever." classical musician. lol. so far we're doing ok. we try and mix in our influences without totally altering our musical direction.

 

[hush-d]

if your band members dont see eye to eye with your genre... learn theirs..

so in simple layman terms. if can tahan, stay. if buaytahan, leave? haha. so it's more a question of whether u can conform with band or not la.

 

[ChanMin]

well .. in a way... yea.. but im also trying to say that... if the problem is differing genre tastes... its still workable.

 

[Frummer]

yep...it worked for the open jam...haha...mix of all stuff there i guess.

anw, the genre thing...

having had a previous band that didnt really work out coz of genre differences , im currently looking for pppl who are interested in an experimental band...such that it might mix both metal and jazz...it also includes other genres...trying to create originals once members are confirmed...

well thats how im trying to solve the genre thing on my part...

gd luck

 

[hush-d]

haha it's interesting to know tt those of u in like established bands r facing such problems. yup. thanks for responding to this thread. haha first ever thread opened by me and it has to involve so much thinking alr. die.