Flat-base hardware/stands

[weckl-x]

Anyone uses flat based stands?
Haven't noticed these in our shops, maybe didn't look hard enough...

 

[Gr3y]

maybe u wanna check with nigel? drum resource? but wads e added advantage to that? i cant find any though..

 

[blissuicide]

Tat is DW 6700, part of the 6000 series DW hardwares. Their lowest end. Only single braces. Nigel dun do DWs. Ranking does. They have DW hardwares, but not on display and stocks are limited.

 

[weckl-x]

maybe u wanna check with nigel? drum resource? but wads e added advantage to that? i cant find any though..

I can't vouch for myself because I've yet to try them, but what I've heard and read, some people prefer these stands because they feel heavy-duty/double-braced stands tend to choke the sound and restrict the movement of their cymbals.

Being more flexible, it allows the cymbal to resonate more freely and wobble even.

The most practical reason is that these are really light.

I thought since I'm in the market for another stand, why not give this a shot.

 

[blissuicide]

Well its jus light, in terms of choking cymbals and restricting their vibrations and resonance, its totally unproven. Even DW doesn't claim tat. The only practical reason is like u said, light and economical.

 

[weckl-x]

Well its jus light, in terms of choking cymbals and restricting their vibrations and resonance, its totally unproven. Even DW doesn't claim tat. The only practical reason is like u said, light and economical.

It doesn't have to be proven because nobody's forcing anyone else to accept it as a fact. I've heard of that, sounds interesting. I'll have to try it out for myself to see if it makes any difference to me. Like you said, the manufacturers (not only DW makes them) of these stands don't claim that.

Same of the aquarian cymbal springs, some hear the difference, some don't.

You tried it and it's no difference to you? That's great, but if possible, I'd like my own ears to try too.

Everyone hears things differently, the Pre-Aged Dry Light Ride in my avatar was loaned to me by a friend. He loves it, I think it's horrible :lol:

So yeah, to each his own 8)

Thanks for the headsup on ranking, I'll remember to look out for these when I'm there. One good thing for local drummers, the market is SO small, between 2-3 shops they have almost all the distribution rights! Haha.

 

[kari_convention]

Gibraltar have this type of stands. More cheaper i guess. As for me, i prefer double braced because more sturdy and have longer lifespan.

 

[blissuicide]

Well its jus light, in terms of choking cymbals and restricting their vibrations and resonance, its totally unproven. Even DW doesn't claim tat. The only practical reason is like u said, light and economical.

It doesn't have to be proven because nobody's forcing anyone else to accept it as a fact. I've heard of that, sounds interesting. I'll have to try it out for myself to see if it makes any difference to me. Like you said, the manufacturers (not only DW makes them) of these stands don't claim that.

Well, I jus said tat its unproven, nothing of the sort tat said abt it not sounding good or not or doesn't make a difference. Dun have to be so defensive. Like u said, to each his own. U like it, then so be it, jolly well go ahead and try it. And the reason I mentioned DW is cos the pic tat u put up is their product, so ya.

 

[weckl-x]

Well, I jus said tat its unproven, nothing of the sort tat said abt it not sounding good or not or doesn't make a difference. Dun have to be so defensive. Like u said, to each his own. U like it, then so be it, jolly well go ahead and try it. And the reason I mentioned DW is cos the pic tat u put up is their product, so ya.

Well, pardon me, but you came across as slamming an alternative idea.

Let's see:

"Well its jus light, in terms of choking cymbals and restricting their vibrations and resonance, its totally unproven. Even DW doesn't claim tat. The only practical reason is like u said, light and economical."

Maybe it's just your style, cheers lah.

Anyway, like my original question in the first post, have you used/tried them? Appreciate your comments so far.

 

[blissuicide]

Its not so much of slammin an idea or bashing it. If tats how u assume it, fine. The statement are jus tat. As of rite now, the certainty of the series is it being lightweight and economical, wif it being the budget line among DW hardwares. Totally unproven as in there are no claims watsoever, maybe u heard it or read it sumwhere, so ya, pardon my ignorance for the lack of knowledge, maybe its jus tat there's no mentioning of it from all those sources and publications tat ive been wif. Oh well. But the reason i can say it is cos im a user of DW hardwares. From 5000 to the now-discontinued 7000 and currently 9000. Dun actually own the 6700/6710 but i do have a hands-on experience wif it. So ya, but dun take my word for it, cos like we've all agreed, to each his own. No offence watsoever. And cheers to u too...

 

[weckl-x]

...Totally unproven as in there are no claims watsoever, maybe u heard it or read it sumwhere, so ya, pardon my ignorance for the lack of knowledge, maybe its jus tat there's no mentioning of it from all those sources and publications tat ive been wif. ...

Ah, I get what you mean now. My heard and read was: heard from my friends, read from users' experiences in other forums.

I've so far only had pearl and tama, how do you find DW hardware compared to the rest?

 

[classicdrum]

I heard someone qouted Peter Erskine said that he likes his cymbal on light stands better for the same reason Weckl-X mentioned before. He's now endorsing DW too.

I have compared a very light vintage flat base stand to a single-braced sonor stand that is probably 500 grams heavier and the difference is unnoticeably minimal. Maybe the difference is bigger had I compared it to heavier Tama or Pearl stand.

Anyhow, I like light flat based stands, they are not a hassle to drag around and easy on my back.

 

[blissuicide]

Well, one thing is tat DW, no matter which series, they are sturdy, real sturdy. They jus gif u lotsa confidence. Well, they start off not as a drum-maker, but as a pedals and hardwares manufacturer and has a reputation of making quality products. Oh well, they dun even start off as a hardware manufacturer, but as a company which conducted private lessons and monthly workshop on drumming, but tats a totally different story. But DW prices have always been at a premium, so people tend to shy away from it and wif lotsa good hardwares manufacturers at a cheaper price now, tats justifiable. For me, Tama does great hardwares too when compared to Pearl. Pearl jus seem more susceptible to breakage. Well, all tis are from my experiences and i mite b jus unlucky. Oh and 1 more company u can trust when it comes to hardwares, Yamaha. Kinda expensive too, but they are great. And yes, all tis names tat i dare mention is cos ive used and tried them like hell.