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Kace
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It's not as exciting and realistic as when UFC started in the mid 90s. Back then, no rules, no time limit, no gloves, no weight class, no rounds, no ring ropes to hang on to - it's only over till it's a KO or tap out. You see Davids beating Goliaths. Different styles like night and day. The irony is though that milestone paved the advancement of unarmed combat, the current MMA championships seem to be regressing to what the pioneers originally set to break out of. Maybe the new rules make it more palatable for TV viewership in the name of profit and lift the media ban they once had. The only fighter I would like to watch these days is when Sakuraba on top form.
ravelasalle
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Martial Arts Enthusiasts THE TIME HAS COME!!!
Yo fighters and wannabes, think you da champ in da hood?
sms name(space)fight(space)ratsx for competitions. we'll talk from there. sky rocket yo rep, score some dimes and get da chicks, yo dig?? No wussies in da house aight.
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Yo fighters and wannabes, think you da champ in da hood?
sms name(space)fight(space)ratsx for competitions. we'll talk from there. sky rocket yo rep, score some dimes and get da chicks, yo dig?? No wussies in da house aight.
peace mofos.
-ratsx 97520074
ravelasalle
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Martial Arts Enthusiasts THE TIME HAS COME!!!
Yo fighters and wannabes, think you da champ in da hood?
PM me: name(space)fight(space)ratsx for competitions. we'll talk from there. sky rocket yo rep, score some dimes and get da chicks, yo dig?? No wussies in da house aight.
peace mofos.
-ratsx
Yo fighters and wannabes, think you da champ in da hood?
PM me: name(space)fight(space)ratsx for competitions. we'll talk from there. sky rocket yo rep, score some dimes and get da chicks, yo dig?? No wussies in da house aight.
peace mofos.
-ratsx
Aki S. Ian
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wtf is this?
dir
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I take it you're not a big fan of jiujitsu or submission wrestling in general? I know what you mean but BJJ is such a remarkable sport and it deserves the stronghold on MMA fighting that it has today. The rules make it more fair in my opinion, even if it's to streamline the program. The 3 hour fights could really be a bore to watch though. Agree with the Sakuraba comment too!
True, UFC started to include rules, time limits, and stuff like that, but I suppose if Dana Whites hadnt taken over UFC, it wouldnt be where it's at today. I think it is safe to say that because of this, people are starting to open up to the idea of fighting as a form of sport-ertainment, which really opens up more opportunity for those fighters/would-be-fighters.
What do you guys think is the best fighting method?
What do you guys think is the best fighting method?
dir
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A good savate fighter with cross-training in brazilian jiujitsu is probably the safest best, though nothing is certain in the fighting world. UFC is starting to bore me though, PRIDE has better programming and fights on most nights.
Also, Human Weapon is pretty fun/funny to watch sometimes!
Also, Human Weapon is pretty fun/funny to watch sometimes!
vickomaniac
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haha yes human weapon is rather intruiging
angelmozart
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What MMA shows is that there isnt one best fighting method ( no shaolin monks travelled to fought Royce Gracie so we will never know..), you need to cross train.
BUT... if we are back to the gd old days whereby everyone only knows their own discipline, BJJ proves to be the best 'self defence' system. And of course if we fast forward in time and if i can only choose to be a practitioner of one martial arts form, i will travel to the land of Russia and be under a Sambo master... striking + wrestling + submission
Good point, lemme rephrase the question. If you were in a situation where you're surrounded by 3 big guys, what would be the best fighting style? Frankly I think, in this type of situation BJJ is the last thing you'd want to do, so in my opinion BJJ is not the best self-defense technique.
SherT
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I always find it pretty damn funny that marketeers like those "Body Combat" instructors like to feed off peoples' fears that the "Street" is a dangerous place full of people trying to kill you.
Close to nobody you'll run into on the "Street" is well versed in any form of martial art, much less enough to pose a a large enough threat to be unsolvable with a couple of pounds to the face, or a well-placed kick in the nuts. Speaking from experience here, when you have 2 huge mother***ers charging at you at the same time with broken bottles in their hands, your best bet would be to duck out of the way and run before thinking about fighting them, because martial arts isn't going to be of much use in a situation like that, no matter what the fellow charging you 50 bucks an hour tells you.
On a side note, I have lost count of the number of "MMA" and "Body Combat Instructors" who have barged into the gym swagger and brimstone and stumbled out defeated and drained. It's actually pretty funny to see how all their "hardcore training" has been put to such good use.
Close to nobody you'll run into on the "Street" is well versed in any form of martial art, much less enough to pose a a large enough threat to be unsolvable with a couple of pounds to the face, or a well-placed kick in the nuts. Speaking from experience here, when you have 2 huge mother***ers charging at you at the same time with broken bottles in their hands, your best bet would be to duck out of the way and run before thinking about fighting them, because martial arts isn't going to be of much use in a situation like that, no matter what the fellow charging you 50 bucks an hour tells you.
On a side note, I have lost count of the number of "MMA" and "Body Combat Instructors" who have barged into the gym swagger and brimstone and stumbled out defeated and drained. It's actually pretty funny to see how all their "hardcore training" has been put to such good use.
shinobi
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i would say that there is no such thing as a single best fighting method. it depends firstly on what suits the fighter, secondly on the type of opponent he is fighting against. third, i don't believe there is any form that encompasses all ranges of strikes, so its best to mix the most useful strikes from all forms (hence "MMA")
but personally i would say one should place greater importance on long and middle range strikes, followed by close range, and grappling should be last. grappling is only useful when you've got the guy on the ground. no use in trying to get a good hold on the guy if he's kicking you in the face.
again, it depends. in sportfighting, where time limits and rules are involved, your strategy would be different from a street fight where your objective would be to take down the guy as fast as possible, or weapons could be involved
but personally i would say one should place greater importance on long and middle range strikes, followed by close range, and grappling should be last. grappling is only useful when you've got the guy on the ground. no use in trying to get a good hold on the guy if he's kicking you in the face.
again, it depends. in sportfighting, where time limits and rules are involved, your strategy would be different from a street fight where your objective would be to take down the guy as fast as possible, or weapons could be involved
Kace
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The best style is probably the unique style most suitable to your attributes and personality for a given situation. Bruce Lee called it the way of no way, which is why he later regretted coining his personalised style Jun Fan because the masses tend to copy and not discover their own. His own style was an evolution from the original discipline of Wing Chun which he learnt too restrictive after a real fight. He used the element of water to great effect in illustrating how one should be versatile for each fight is unique.
In contrast to Jun Fan, Jeet Kune Do (JKD) was only a philosophy of developing and discovering one's unique martial art. In the late 60s, he started dabbling with various grappling techniques and trained with reknown judokas/sambo stylists of its day. His intercepting counterattacks and footwork derived from fencing, boxing and Wing Chun. His kicks from kungfu, TKD and savate. An MMA style different from what the world then perceived from the media. Even if you don't respect the man or his style, his JKD philosophies like the 5 ways of attack, cross-training in the 4 fighting ranges, learning approach to multi-disciplines etc are timeless.
One of his two proteges, Dan Inosanto went on to incorporate Jun Fan with his own ethinic style of Escrima/Kali. The other, Ted Wong still practises the original Jun Fan which he imparts to Bruce Lee's daughter, Shannon.
I don't mind if you laugh but my style is the way of the pacifist
Sun Tzu's ideal of preventing a fight without violence. Also inspired by the legendary samurai, Miyamoto Mushashi who beat an opponent not with his sword but with wit. I personally find this psychological style more civilised, interesting and practical in daily life which I prefer to develop. Lao liao mah and a layman train so hard for what? But yeah, watching a quality fight of other guys or any girlfight can be pretty exciting.
In contrast to Jun Fan, Jeet Kune Do (JKD) was only a philosophy of developing and discovering one's unique martial art. In the late 60s, he started dabbling with various grappling techniques and trained with reknown judokas/sambo stylists of its day. His intercepting counterattacks and footwork derived from fencing, boxing and Wing Chun. His kicks from kungfu, TKD and savate. An MMA style different from what the world then perceived from the media. Even if you don't respect the man or his style, his JKD philosophies like the 5 ways of attack, cross-training in the 4 fighting ranges, learning approach to multi-disciplines etc are timeless.
One of his two proteges, Dan Inosanto went on to incorporate Jun Fan with his own ethinic style of Escrima/Kali. The other, Ted Wong still practises the original Jun Fan which he imparts to Bruce Lee's daughter, Shannon.
I don't mind if you laugh but my style is the way of the pacifist
Sun Tzu's ideal of preventing a fight without violence. Also inspired by the legendary samurai, Miyamoto Mushashi who beat an opponent not with his sword but with wit. I personally find this psychological style more civilised, interesting and practical in daily life which I prefer to develop. Lao liao mah and a layman train so hard for what? But yeah, watching a quality fight of other guys or any girlfight can be pretty exciting.
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angelmozart
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i do believe in a one on one situation the best self defence is still BJJ.. like i say.. early UFCs proves that.. but on the street where its a bad situation to be on the ground, i think the strikers definately are most effective. i can see pple like Cocrop murdering with his LHK. According to Bas Rutten's lethal self defence system when against more than 2 or more attackers, back to a wall so u know yr back is safe and then start BANGING away haha.. (striking required again )
but bro Raistmar u seem to be suggestin an extremely dangerous situation so i would go Krav Maga's Burst technique becos if they are gd enough for terrorist, they good enough for the streets ;-p
but like bas say.. if u can avoid a confrontation just walk away.. best self defence.. but if u cant.. u take it to them!
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