Entry Gibson LP

[CyanideJunkie]

Lol I said that they were entry-level Gibson guitars! Different from a beginner guitar eg. Samick, J&D.

IMO getting the TS's son a single-channel amp would be better, teaches one to use the guitar's volume knob more efficiently.

 

[wck]

IMO getting the TS's son a single-channel amp would be better, teaches one to use the guitar's volume knob more efficiently.

True, good picking dynamics and use of the vol knob are very important things to learn. And since he plays acoustic I don't think he needs a ton of gain now.

 

[J.custom]

@j_m_s: actually only Davis brings in jet city now.

Do check out the vht special 6 and special 6 ultra combos!

 

[reez_rock]

How about Gibson LP Studio(not the 60s Tribute) or Gibson SG Standard. I think it's slightly below 2k at SVGuitars

 

[J.custom]

IMO, the quality of the LP studio is way below that of a Standard, not worth it. The SG Standard's pretty good though. I'd get the LP jr special over the studio anytime.

 

[j_m_s]

^ I'd respectfully disagree with that. the quality of the LP studio, IMHO is not way below that of a Standard.

The studio was created to be a stripped down, no frills version of the LP standard, sans binding and etc.

The main difference between studios and standards are the pickups and binding. Apart from the binding, everything on the studio that may be "sub-par" can be upgraded. From my own experience, i actually prefer some studios over the standards. Especially the newer LP standards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA_D_bgc8KA

here's a good demo of the studio VS a standard, yes i agree that the standard sounds better in the video, the new pickups (post 2003) in the standards are BBs i believe, while the studio has ceramics (490/498). The ceramics are in no way inferior pickups either, considering that the standards were using them until 2003 and now i believe that the les paul customs, classics and supremes also have them.

Studios are definitely pretty good for the $. the 90s pieces are exceptional.

Also, newer standards come with tonepros hardware, easily obtainable upgrades which can be had on a studio as well (or faber hardware)

 

[LadyInTears]

why not get a kickass japanese copy

 

[relinquish69]

Actually to be honest, I have to agree with J.custom on this one.

Spec & built wise, it's definitely easy to make a comparison. However we always question, why am I paying about $1000 difference between the 2 models for different pickups and bindings?

Play a LP Studio side by side with a LP Standard. I've done this comparison countless times and I've concluded that the overall "make" of the LP Standard is way better. In terms of dynamics, resonance & feel, it beats the Studio hands down.

I have a friend who owns a LP Studio and he went through a few pickup swaps without getting anywhere near a LP Standard tone. Stock 490R 498T, Sky HSDO HRO, Seymour Duncan Antiquities, Dimarzio 36th Ann PAFs & finally Gibson Burstbuckers but nothing came close (we all thought the Gibson Burstbuckers would solve all his problems but no.....) . IMO the wood tone coming from the LP Studio is very "dark" sounding (almost to the point of being muddy) despite having a slight flame maple top. He got so mad he just sold the guitar to get a Standard.

Conclusion is although in theory there are just a few minor differences in specs, I feel the construction of the guitar itself attributes to the tone. Which is why an Epiphone LP Standard does not sound anything close to it's Gibson counterpart.

 

[J.custom]

Thanks for summing up my points! IDK, it's just that for me, all the Standards that I've tried just sounded way better than a studio, and I've compared them side by side as well. That's why if I ever get a LP it'll be a Standard

or....

a MIJ copy as LadyInTears suggests

 

[reez_rock]

Yes. I understand and definitely agree that the Studios are definitely inferior compare to Standards. However based on TS budget, I think studios are really great playing guitars both for jamming or gigs. I personally own a Custom and yes it;s superior to the studio that I own.

However, everytime I look at the studio beside my desk it always scream like it meant to be played every single second

 

[ShredAddict]

Hmm you can actually consider other Les Pauls like the Les Paul TV model. It has 2 P-90s and 4 knobs. sounds pretty darn good.

 

[Raiyanx Toshiaki]

I can recommend a good vintage Les Paul STANDARD for 1.9k+. Interested? See below~

WTS: Gibson Les Paul Standard $1950 3 day only..

 

[J.custom]

Hmm you can actually consider other Les Pauls like the Les Paul TV model. It has 2 P-90s and 4 knobs. sounds pretty darn good.

How much is this? Sounds pretty similar to the Gibson LP Junior Special, 2 P90s also

 

[relinquish69]

yup, I guess that's what Lucas meant. we were talking about it just the other day. the reason why it was called a TV model was because in the old days, the yellow coloured guitars look like white on the B&W TV hence the name.

the only thing I don't like about P-90s is that they have hum. I have this bad habit of pushing the gain for Gibson guitars and I don't know why. one thing is for sure, it definitely felt and sounded better than most of the studios that I've tried. however, I cannot deny the fact that LP studios are the most bang for buck Gibson guitars based on paper specs.

 

[fezz]

Man, I wish I had 2k when I was still starting out on the electric. haha.: )

LOL even after a couple of years, i still don't have 2k to spend on an electric. XD