Edwards Les Paul anyone?

[chae]

Dear Softies i would like to know of Edwards LP's tone... does it matches the like of gibson LP? i have heard that gibby is not as good as used to be and have heard the closest we could get gibby tone out of a LP is japanese made LPs ... still i was wondering if the ESP LP or edwards would be better? and how much could i get for in sg ?

 

[subversion]

the Edwards brand name offers no Les Paul model; they look like one but they are not called one... Gibson not as good as they used to be? i still say Gibson offers one of the most desirable guitar tones in the market today (Les Paul) just that these guitars don't sound like their predecessors due to the current, different construction which do not appeal to those of us who are accustomed to the former. this doesn't mean they sound bad. i have nothing bad to say about the Edwards i've tried- they are worthy guitars in their own right- superb construction & tone.

 

[chae]

Thanks Subversion...yeah am not a gibby fan thou initially cause they are too expensive and till i heard some bad reputation of them recently....anyway how did the edwards sounded compared to the gibsons? lets put the standard gibsons made back then compared to it by 10 ?

 

[MrBukka]

Hi there, i feel that in terms of tone the edwards sounds closest to a modern version of LP with the chambered bodies......but there are still differences in terms of construction,the hardware andd electronics used in both guitars that will eventually make them tonally different. I personally own an edwards LP and really digged it because it is one of the most bang for buck guitars around with a huge tone and great built quality! With just a couple of minor mods like coil tapping and orange drop caps (which i did to mine) the edwards LP will be one of the most versatile guitar around too.

 

[Whitestrat]

i have heard that gibby is not as good as used to be and have heard the closest we could get gibby tone out of a LP is japanese made LPs ...

that statement is complete and utter bullshit. Made by people tryin to justify their unwillingness to pay for the real deal. (by real deal, I mean a historic.)

You want something better than Edwards? Try FGN les pauls at woodworks. Kills even the heritage stuff!

 

[junkiemanxl]

how to compare a gibby to an edwards?

I agree that edwards make good and value for money guitars but it should not be compared to a gibson. Its really a long shot in comparison...

a gibby is still a gibby, there's good reasons why people fork out an arm and a leg for it.

Don't take anything away from edwards as well. They are good stuff if you can't afford a gibson.

 

[subversion]

....anyway how did the edwards sounded compared to the gibsons?

that's the last thing i would do, actually, trying to hear the Gibson bits in an a Edwards. i don't consciously do that when trying the Edwards out, my objective was to evaluate the Edwards & determine if it did itself justice by manifesting a popular outline but offering something a little more attractive in any way. the Seymour Duncans in the Edwards play a key role here, i hear adequate clarity in all the Edwards i tried & they are quite devoid of that Gibson muff when one employs intense distortion & flick on the neck humbucker. to me this is absolutely likable but the rest of us are actually looking forward to that wooly neck tone so this feature pleases a different camp when it comes to guitar tones in general. i decided to be a little different & went with a P-90 equipped Edwards instead:

 

[guitarsan]

that statement is complete and utter bullshit. Made by people tryin to justify their unwillingness to pay for the real deal. (by real deal, I mean a historic.)

Hang around at TGP and Les Paul Forum for too long? Haha...relak lah. He's just voicing his thoughts.

Anyway, Edwards may not sound like a Gibson Historic. But the price difference is huge. It's just people's perception of tone vs value.

 

[chae]

that statement is complete and utter bullshit. Made by people tryin to justify their unwillingness to pay for the real deal. (by real deal, I mean a historic.)

You want something better than Edwards? Try FGN les pauls at woodworks. Kills even the heritage stuff!

sorry but may i know how did you determine by historic? their 1990's made production or 1980s? not a true gibby fan here neither a fender and i had spent time messing with superstrats ie ibanez.... i heard of heritage LP and they claim to be off from the older gibson employees...the guitars looks killer and so are their pricing that matches a gibby... but i have never heard of FGN if you dont mind sending me its website?

 

[guitarsan]

sorry but may i know how did you determine by historic? their 1990's made production or 1980s? not a true gibby fan here neither a fender and i had spent time messing with superstrats ie ibanez.... i heard of heritage LP and they claim to be off from the older gibson employees...the guitars looks killer and so are their pricing that matches a gibby... but i have never heard of FGN if you dont mind sending me its website?

Historic - Gibson's reissues of yesteryear models. Check Gibson website for more. Also known as VOS...Vintage Original Specs. Mucho expensive. For a VOS 1959 (or R9), you've to sell your kidney first before you buy one.

FGN guitars? Fujigen. Go visit Google.

 

[chae]

LOL your so funny guitarsan and stop being a joke here for saying that hobbyiest have to sell off their kidneys before they could get one? afterall we all know is just plain interest and hobby. yeah i know known of fujigen they are also cheap alternatives for gibson copies and still value for money perhaps i might not like the idea of buying something that is "imitiated" just like most japanese branded guitars. like it or not japs have done it so and it makes japan like thailand for imitiated stuffs lol

 

[subversion]

Japanese products are imitation?

imitation is when the original brand name is left in tact. the Japanese copies bear the manufacturers' brand name on their headstock. i'm not pulling off a brand loyalty argument here but we need to understand the philosophy behind these products before being dismissive of their manifestations.

 

[chae]

your right subversion... but i forgot to say is in my opinion.. maybe the problem is with the same alike shape as LPs as even without the same brand intact is still a clear sign of copies? i still remember even PRS had issue with their tremonti LP which possessed the same idealistic shape and even till the positioning of the knobs?

i'll still say japs "LP" are still the best to go for with their price listed so far.... but to sell a kidney for a gibby? thats pretty lame for sure LOL

i just been to davis and they offered 1.2k for edwards... Mmmm nice price for a japanese made

 

[dudelove]

but to sell a kidney for a gibby? thats pretty lame for sure LOL

That might be. But you might need to sell BOTH kidneys and more for an ORIGINAL 59 Les Paul.

 

[naviros]

I'm pretty sure you can sell a whole person, and might not even get the 1.5million USD needed for an ORIGINAL '59.

 

[chae]

LOL to sell a kidney or two or may it be a whole person... well you guys are horrible lol

 

[subversion]

i still remember even PRS had issue with their tremonti LP which possessed the same idealistic shape and even till the positioning of the knobs?

the Gibson vs PRS episode had a commercial tinge to it for us who read between the lines. people who are guitar inclined- we know the PRS singlecut wasn't an outright copy of the Les Paul. the case was about confusion prevention due to commercial misrepresentation- Gibson reckoned their beloved Les Paul was being confused by the PRS singlecut (btw- it's not the Tremonti model in contention, it was the whole PRS singlecut outline being put to task). the fact that the PRS singlecut is still on sale today says a lot about what took place.

i was at Davis too earlier today. expensive outing, this one.

 

[chae]

the Gibson vs PRS episode had a commercial tinge to it for us who read between the lines. people who are guitar inclined- we know the PRS singlecut wasn't an outright copy of the Les Paul. the case was about confusion prevention due to commercial misrepresentation- Gibson reckoned their beloved Les Paul was being confused by the PRS singlecut (btw- it's not the Tremonti model in contention, it was the whole PRS singlecut outline being put to task). the fact that the PRS singlecut is still on sale today says a lot about what took place.

i was at Davis too earlier today. expensive outing, this one.

Nice one there thanks anyway

 

[edgie]

I had an Edwards Les Paul that I sold to a friend. It was a Jimmy Page Relic model, probably the one that was being offered to you for 1.2k at Davis. I think the one at their display window has that Jimmy Page special wiring already installed so that's a big plus. It's a light guitar for a Les Paul, so back-friendly, that's why I liked it and the neck is just perfect for my medium-sized asian hands. The pickups are not shabby either, it's got Duncans(Sh-1 neck, SH-5 bridge).

All throughout the construction is very good and the tuners hold tune so well. Compared to one great Les Paul I tried, a Heritage, the Edwards's tone has less bass. It has that chambered body tone to it that you may or may not prefer.

I sold it because I prefer the scale of a strat and tele than the LP's.

 

[chae]

thanks alot there my friend !! i'll try one out if i could !!