Deathcore and Metalcore. Metal?

cliffnewsted

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I have a few friends who swear on their lives that they are Metalheads. However, when I asked them what types of Metal they're into, they said Deathcore and Metalcore. I couldn't help but laugh.

When I told them that Deathcore and Metalcore aren't Metal, they were offended and said that Deathcore and Metalcore are too 'brutal' for my liking. When I told them that I listen to Death and Black Metal, they then said that Deathcore is a heavier version of Death Metal. Can you believe this shit?

I don't mind if you're a fan of Deathcore and Metalcore. However to me, Deathcore and Metalcore are just heavier and more aggressive versions of Hardcore, hence the term 'core' in the genre names. Proof of this is that the most popular thing in Deathcore is the breakdown. As far as I know, there isn't a single Deathcore song that doesn't have a breakdown. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't breakdowns originally found in Hardcore
songs?

I find it annoying when people think that Deathcore and Metalcore are Metal.

I would love to see comments on this topic, regardless whether you agree or disagree with me.
 
To the purists, they are not. But to others its just music so to hell with these categorizations. But Deathcore the heavier version of death metal? I disagree coz I'm a purists..haha.
 
Well... I listen to metalcore and deathcore and I also listen speed and trash metal....
Like what cliffnewsted explain is 80% correct about deathcore and metalcore.... They have hardcore thingy in their music.... But waddhell as long as its heavy... It rocks... \m/
 
Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed):mrgreen:

haha sorry couldn't resist. pardon the pun.
well to each his own. really you can't be forcing people to listen to black or death metal, right? cos not everyone like it. maybe it's too heavy for them. but heck, if they like it, they like it.
 
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some kind of "sub-genre generation" gap i suppose

like the younger kids would be thinking bands like avenged sevenfold and B4MV is metal while purists like you and me refer to the legends of metal like metallica and iron maiden.

like one time B4MV were playing a cover of creeping death and the younger kids (mostly teenage girls) at the front had no idea what the hell they were performing at all. it was only when they started playing songs like her voice resides which got them all jumpy.

the cover rocks btw.


cheers.
 
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I see. Ok I'm not gonna offend anybody, so let's get that out of the way. I find that certain age group who grew up in a time or period when a certain genre or culture gets a sudden boom of popularity, they will however presume that popular genre or culture is the best damn thing that ever happened regardless of anyone who says otherwise.

I'm not gonna lie when I say I was into Linkin Park at one time and thought Slipknot was the only band who could do double pedals. Hence it was the rise of Nu Metal. These bands were so called my next phase of my music taste. Before then it was more to Rainbow, Deep Purple and Iron Maiden. Why was I into Linkin Park then? Maybe because I thought no one else did it that kind of sound or music. Why was I into Slipknot then? Maybe because I was too ignorant to research that Lars Ulrich already did that when I was still sucking milk bottles.

Ok so where am I getting at here? Well maybe instead of saying, "Hey Deathcore or whatevercore isn't "THE" thing or music because I know more about metal then you do" or things that sound or related to something like that, we should share what we have or know about other aspects of music. And this in case it's about metal. And instead of laughing and condemning "core" people/kids because their too trendy for their own good, just it or them a chance of time and patience. Cause you'll never know when they might have something good to offer.

I mean if metal was condemned throughout the ages and not given the chance, it wouldn't turn out the way it did now would it?

Ok that's my 50 cents worth. Haha.
 
Labels don't really mean anything. Metal in general has had some kind of resurgence these past few years, hence, the media basically has to come up with terms and labels of newer bands that are playing styles that are throwbacks to older genres like death metal and grindcore and hardcore - which conveniently labeled as deathcore.

Metalcore as a sub genre and label itself has existed for quite a while, ever since the 'crossover' style (hardcore plus metal) that were pionereed by bands like DRI or SOD in the mid 80s. It carried on to the 90s with bands like Biohazard, Merauder, Pro-Pain etc... the modern metalcore as we know it came about mainly because these hardcore bands (Overcast, Aftershock etc..) from the US, adopt a metal playing style heavily from the Gothenburg, Sweden scene from bands like In Flames, At The Gates, Dark Tranquility etc.. and fuse it with their hardcore style. When Killswitch Engage (which includes members from Overcast and Aftershock by the way) hit it big with their Alive Or Just Breathing album in 2002, then the modern metalcore tag became a legit force in the metal scene.
 
hey reuel, i think i noe u. u're farhan's classmate, rite? i've seen u in sch b4 wearing an a7x t-shirt.. haha

btw.. couldn't u think of anything else other than ur class for ur nick? haha
 
haha, walao another one of these threads that have purists vs core bands
anyway i think that deathcore is influenced by deathmetal la, just that they have a preference to play breakdowns instead of crazy solos, u cant really say there are not metal, cause there are alot of them that are really mixed, not just pure breakdowns..
anyway, for me , i listen to all types of music, and i really really hate people classifying and stereotyping genres, just listen to what u like, u dont like dont listen, but if u cant be open minded about other genres, then please just learn to be more mature.. people work hard on their music , give them some credit, dont keep saying they not brutal enough, not metal enough or call them stupid emo kids trying to play metal
 
hahaha...

but well i do respect their music.i even love as i lay dying..rather than some music about shaking booty or candy shop(u know what i mean haha)
 
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