Daryl sucks

paynk: if you wanna put it this way, it really is easy to call something influence and play almost exactly like that band. but does the emulator deserve credit for it?

let's look at wolfmother. they have too strong a led zeppelin influence. are they interesting as a band? would one rather listen to them, or to led zeppelin? why are they still popular? cause it's hard as hell to emulate it anyway, and i guess they came at a time when people wanted to listen to another kind of led zeppelin. but popularity does not mean they are doing it completely right. they have received lots of crap about them 'ripping off' led zeppelin, which is right in the sense. the style of the music, the appearance, the whole attitude.

when we talk about the whole fall out boy/paramore trend that's still irritatingly going on, do we really adore those tween bands trying to emulate their idols so completely?

in the 50s and 60s, rocknroll bands often had to pay each other royalties cause they were 'ripping each other off', but that has been phased out in today's modern context.

then we get to the issue of most modern bands sounding the same. in my opinion, a band that would stand out and really matter is one that genuinely has something new to offer.

when we talk about original music, that's exactly what it must be, original. mr narcissist here does sound decent, but it is a fact that his music, his accent, and his appearance as an artist too closely resembles pete doherty's. that, and considering he isn't exactly british, with his londoner's accent, it is pretty acceptable to come to the conclusion that he is subconsciously ripping off doherty.

if he doesn't want to matter much, sure, he can be a doherty clone. what we are saying here is his music and entire package lacks an identity that is really his own.

Daryl! the last part really tickled me. Although I won't change the apparels I wear, I will try to make myself sound different. I have of course alot of material to write upon from Electro to really emo-acoustic songs(think Bella Luna by Jason Mraz). Yeah I think you should know me better as in, in reality. Most people do say I act like a drunken Pete Doherty, not Pete Doherty himself. I speak in accent but I admit is fake, but I also do admit it comes out naturally. Its only when I'm performing or recording I get this bug to just speak in an accent because I don't want to sound too Singaporean(who does?!). And I admit I wasn't trying to do a Londoner's accent, I was just trying to speak regular English but with British music always blasting through my hi-fi and mp3, i guess the accent just followed me, get what I mean?
 
Daryl! the last part really tickled me. Although I won't change the apparels I wear, I will try to make myself sound different. I have of course alot of material to write upon from Electro to really emo-acoustic songs(think Bella Luna by Jason Mraz). Yeah I think you should know me better as in, in reality. Most people do say I act like a drunken Pete Doherty, not Pete Doherty himself. I speak in accent but I admit is fake, but I also do admit it comes out naturally. Its only when I'm performing or recording I get this bug to just speak in an accent because I don't want to sound too Singaporean(who does?!). And I admit I wasn't trying to do a Londoner's accent, I was just trying to speak regular English but with British music always blasting through my hi-fi and mp3, i guess the accent just followed me, get what I mean?

i get it.. it's subconscious, that's what i said. the thing is it isn't artistically healthy to emulate a single artist so much, especially someone as popular as doherty.

you seem to struggle with your natural speaking accent and the accent that you learnt. well i don't have much negative opinions on your music (or rather i'm lazy to nitpick) except for the obvious doherty influence. it's laid on a little too thick.

it doesn't matter if i know you in real life or not, it's the impression you would give to the listener, me, that matters in this case. if its all so natural to you, well and good, but you'll never escape being labeled as a doherty ripoff until you show more depth and character in your songwriting, something that people would identify with you, instead of doherty.

damn i'm being all serious here
 
DUDE! DON'T DO THAT! You might lose your material to make a better song than mine!

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there's a fine difference between keeping accent neutral and faking one entirely.

there are some local singers who i applaud very much that have the ability to keep their 'singaporean-ness' out of their singing voice. this might be mistaken for having slang or whatever, but i think all their doing is just keeping their accent neutral. like it or not, its going to be hard to sell albums across the world if we sound singaporean. fact of life.

here a couple of bands i feel keep their accent's neutral

electrico
wgb
great spy.

with regards to threadstarters songs, i think you should concentrate on keeping your accent natural. but if you cant, THEN F U C K it cause that's rock and roll do whatever the hell you want.

this is just my opinion. sorry for spelling mistakes i think i suffer from dyzlexia z
 
Daryl:
Thanks for the fantastic fact feed.

So the suggestion for Ad now is that, he takes off his hat and sings in another accent and writes in another way? Then the purpose for him to write songs is not self-expression already what, it is to not-sound-like-Doherty. Isn't that kind of strange, just because he sounds like Doherty he should make a special, conscious effort to differentiate himself from him, even if it's unnatural or what. It takes time to develop your own style. I use to sound entirely like Stephanie Sun hahahaha, but I listen to much more different artistes now so I don't really sound like her anymore. I didn't, however, make any conscious effort to stop sounding like her because that's just so artificial.

All I can comment on are the technical aspects, for me there's no right song or wrong song, just well done or badly done. As for the style I will just suggest listening to much much more other stuffs, different genres, it's always beneficial anyway.
 
YA. Don't say I'm not trying everyone. I've tried my best to not sound British everytime! I've been listening to Rilo Kiley, Rise Against and other non-British stuff. I just can't get the accent out of my head! hahaha.

On a political note, Singapore is a colony(British-ruled), so I don't think it should be a problem if we sound like them cus we spell like them. I don't think it would be a problem if we acted like them cus we drink tea. And if you didn't realise, how many fish & chips outlet are there in Singapore? PLENTY. So I guess that sums it, if you get what I mean cus I'm not thinking straight at the moment hahaha.

And about the natural accent Electrico and WGB and Great Spy sings. To me, they are not natural, cus their accent is sooooooo American. Believe me, I hate Americans, and I can tell the accent.
 
That I think is slightly beside the point, cos as much as we eat Fish & Chips we eat Macdonalds, and as much as we drink tea we drink coke. But that's different, food and musical style.

I really don't think it's natural that we talk with a British accent in school... cos you don't have to sound nice when you talking to your friends. But if you're making a speech in school I'm not surprised if you feign a bit of accent to sound nicer. Likewise for music making, I think it's okay to sing with an accent of any sort as long as it sounds nice. The key is just, sound pleasant to the ear, which is actually not that simple cos it's hard to find a balance, unless you can feign an accent so well that is so Brit/US that nobody can tell that it's unnatural if he doesn't know that you're a Singaporean.

That, I think, Great Spy does that well enough, whether or not you like their accent.

OK MY POINT IS THAT: Do whatever you want/need to make it sound good, be it faking an accent (well) or putting a spider in your mouth or holding your nose or screwing the neighbour's daughter, as long as it sounds better. I think your accent thing is alright, doesn't bother me quite.
 
hate american? Hate such a strong word, what have they done, may i ask?

ya its a strong word. I think I should narrow it to I hate George Bush hahahaha. Because he started unnecessary war with Iraq. I don't want to explain it further, I get all messed up when I talk about 'politics'.

Its true what Sharon said(Paynk), I guess faking an accent or other stuff to make your work(no matter what field) sound nicer is considered "going the extra mile". Seriously, I still think no one wants to listen to a Singaporean singing Singapore'ishly. My ears would bleed.

Let's not fight anymore shall we? Or let's not have this 'heated discussion' anymore. It's kind off sad for me that my music brings hatred. Makes me want to delete my myspace hahahaha(K being too emo).
 
YA. Don't say I'm not trying everyone. I've tried my best to not sound British everytime! I've been listening to Rilo Kiley, Rise Against and other non-British stuff. I just can't get the accent out of my head! hahaha.

On a political note, Singapore is a colony(British-ruled), so I don't think it should be a problem if we sound like them cus we spell like them. I don't think it would be a problem if we acted like them cus we drink tea. And if you didn't realise, how many fish & chips outlet are there in Singapore? PLENTY. So I guess that sums it, if you get what I mean cus I'm not thinking straight at the moment hahaha.

And about the natural accent Electrico and WGB and Great Spy sings. To me, they are not natural, cus their accent is sooooooo American. Believe me, I hate Americans, and I can tell the accent.



haha your doing what i was talking about in the post. your refering to neutral accents as american. come on man. you say you hate americans and you can tell their accent, they are just speaking normally without singaporean tones. real american accents? have you been on a bus that passes an international school? the kids that come on .. they have real american accents. their drawl is much more obvious. electrico wgb and great spy, they keep their accents neutral without faking an accent. compare their voices when they are speaking between songs to the voices you hear on television, its not close. people just like to put them down because they 'SOUND ANG-MOH' just because they dont sound like your hawker centre uncle.

that was an exageration. my point is just because they dont sound singaporean, people assume its angmohish

PARDON MY SPELLING THIS IS JUST MY OPINION LOVE YOU
 
Its true what Sharon said(Paynk), I guess faking an accent or other stuff to make your work(no matter what field) sound nicer is considered "going the extra mile". Seriously, I still think no one wants to listen to a Singaporean singing Singapore'ishly. My ears would bleed.

faking an accent is 'going the extra mile'? in that case you can say the same thing about faking an orgasm.

but the fact is you still didnt get your orgasm and it is still perplexing as to how a Singaporean possesses an english accent.

i mean if you want to sell your music in the uk by all means pretend to be english! but thinkabout it; this is a SINGAPORE music forum, and the fact that so many SINGAPOREANS are getting worked up about your accent should tell you something. i mean you need to appeal to locals come on.

i am british, by the way. and i still find your accent unappealing
 
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