Cubase5 Variaudio vs auto tune vs Melodyne
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l0u5y
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Do you use Cubase as your DAW?
When u say autotune, i take it as u mean antares auto-tune.
Personally, I feel that antares auto-tune is the best.
I will rank them as: Autotune, Melodyne then variaudio.
Autotune allows the best tuning of a note I feel. Most of the time, a bad singer tends to not be able to hold its note. To me, 1 of the biggest problems is when the singer goes seriously flat. He or she start on the right note and then slowly drifts off into about 1 or 2 semitones flat(could be more). Which is really hard to correct using the basic autotune functions. And autotune allows you to redraw the pitch back, and other nice functions such as vibrato, humanize. It is also much easier to use to create those electronic auto-tune vocals like t-pain kind. However, to me, autotune takes too long a time to tune a single note that is slightly off-tune, which means really low productivity. It is a real waste of time for me, unless you really have to deal with a very bad singer which I could have him or her work with a good vocal coach/producer instead.
Melodyne and Variaudio is really similar I would say. Variaudio is probably like a "lite version" of melodyne which would mean that melodyne has much more functions versus variaudio.
The difference between melodyne/variaudio and autotune in auto mode is that autotune pulls the pitch closer to the note of a scale while melodyne/variaudio shifts the pitch form to the note you want to go to. The sound is different because the resultant pitch form is different.
Melodyne is really good imo. Melodyne works really differently from auto-tune. Melodyne detects the pitch and then maps it out into a piano roll. If you arrange in a DAW, you would know what i mean. You could just shift the pitch easily up or down. And it sounds more realistic imo. You can also adjust the pitch drift. Melodyne allows you to pitch modulate, which you can use to create vibrato.
For me, I would choose melodyne or variaudio over antares autotune. To me, I will only use autotune to treat the vocals when i absolutely cannot use melodyne or variaudio to help it.
By the way, all 3 programs can be used to deal with instruments tuning etc as well.
When u say autotune, i take it as u mean antares auto-tune.
Personally, I feel that antares auto-tune is the best.
I will rank them as: Autotune, Melodyne then variaudio.
Autotune allows the best tuning of a note I feel. Most of the time, a bad singer tends to not be able to hold its note. To me, 1 of the biggest problems is when the singer goes seriously flat. He or she start on the right note and then slowly drifts off into about 1 or 2 semitones flat(could be more). Which is really hard to correct using the basic autotune functions. And autotune allows you to redraw the pitch back, and other nice functions such as vibrato, humanize. It is also much easier to use to create those electronic auto-tune vocals like t-pain kind. However, to me, autotune takes too long a time to tune a single note that is slightly off-tune, which means really low productivity. It is a real waste of time for me, unless you really have to deal with a very bad singer which I could have him or her work with a good vocal coach/producer instead.
Melodyne and Variaudio is really similar I would say. Variaudio is probably like a "lite version" of melodyne which would mean that melodyne has much more functions versus variaudio.
The difference between melodyne/variaudio and autotune in auto mode is that autotune pulls the pitch closer to the note of a scale while melodyne/variaudio shifts the pitch form to the note you want to go to. The sound is different because the resultant pitch form is different.
Melodyne is really good imo. Melodyne works really differently from auto-tune. Melodyne detects the pitch and then maps it out into a piano roll. If you arrange in a DAW, you would know what i mean. You could just shift the pitch easily up or down. And it sounds more realistic imo. You can also adjust the pitch drift. Melodyne allows you to pitch modulate, which you can use to create vibrato.
For me, I would choose melodyne or variaudio over antares autotune. To me, I will only use autotune to treat the vocals when i absolutely cannot use melodyne or variaudio to help it.
By the way, all 3 programs can be used to deal with instruments tuning etc as well.
I love Variaudio because it's built into Cubase and it's super fast and workflow is great . it might not be as powerful as melodyne but the ease of use and the way it works in cubase is just amazing.
i usually just put an autotune plugin after all my vocals are manually tuned just as final plug to catch any off notes.
i usually just put an autotune plugin after all my vocals are manually tuned just as final plug to catch any off notes.
Likui
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so if lets say the note is C and i changed it to D using all 3 softwares the end result of the D is diff?
and can variaudio change the pitch such that I can get the in between notes for eg the original pitch is C I want to change it to the note in between C and C# can it be done?
and can variaudio change the pitch such that I can get the in between notes for eg the original pitch is C I want to change it to the note in between C and C# can it be done?
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blueprintstudios
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Likui : if you're using Cubase 5 already you might as well use Variaudio since it's already built in and you already can preview onspot changes done in the DAW instead of importing/exporting. I've tried the 3 that you mentioned, you almost won't hear a difference between melodyne and cubase5's Variaudio in terms of effect, work flow will be more efficient in cubase 5.i just received mine from ebay weeks ago and I gotta say it's very costefficient compared to paying an extra amount for melodyne. but just for your info, a friend of mine mentioned cubase 5 has some bugs, one of them affecting performance in quadcore cpus, so far I'm not as hardcore usage as him so I haven't experienced it yet.
antares's autotune will be ideal for "force-tune-robotic-singing" kind of plugin purpose, e.g britney spears/ever popular shakira 's she wolf and other rap artists.
antares's autotune will be ideal for "force-tune-robotic-singing" kind of plugin purpose, e.g britney spears/ever popular shakira 's she wolf and other rap artists.
blueprintstudios
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Likui : oh hey you're online.
to answer your question the result of the D. CAN be different depends on how you use it also. but like I said in my previous post, it won't be obvious or almost can't tell the difference.
before I forget , Cubase 5's Variaudio = melodyne, Cubase 5's VST3 plugin Pitch Correct = Antares's Autotune
you're getting a piece of plus of everything in cubase 5.
to answer your question the result of the D. CAN be different depends on how you use it also. but like I said in my previous post, it won't be obvious or almost can't tell the difference.
before I forget , Cubase 5's Variaudio = melodyne, Cubase 5's VST3 plugin Pitch Correct = Antares's Autotune
you're getting a piece of plus of everything in cubase 5.
blueprintstudios
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yea so balance the cost of Cubase 5 vs Antares autotune + Melodyne. the answer will be obvious.
l0u5y
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No. The end result is different if you use melodyne/variaudio versus autotune.
Im not sure if you can do that in Variaudio but you can definitely do that in melodyne if you want to tune to microtones. and i tink autotune allows you to tune to microtones and you can also change the "concert pitch".
Likui
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because i downloaded the cubase5 so i tried the variaudio i couldn't quantize to the microtones. and 1 more thing after i corrected the pitch and i playback it kind of lag, is it normal? i've been using cubase studio 5 and i did many things but no lag and after i used the variaudio it lag, but if i don't it doesn't. another thing i face is after i change pitch well at least to my ears the sound becomes sort of like comes from a diff dimension, sort of like it's being panned to centre or somesort. It just doesn't sound normal. you all face this sort of things?
blueprintstudios
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likui : you downloaded from steinberg.net ?
blueprintstudios
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was looking for it previously but may have missed the trial URL which they put a few weeks back then ended up getting off ebay
blueprintstudios
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likui : you may be able to find your answer here by experimenting the vocal midi export method
http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/messages/8093.html?n=4
http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/messages/8093.html?n=4
blueprintstudios
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memory? ram? no idea i don't have such problem. works great on my core2duo 2.4ghz 2gb ram.
