COMEBACK KID Live in Singapore
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BlotBlaBlaBla
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hahahah chill la that guy over excited laa.
if i also vote all those songs i hear and ask them to play live!
can't wait siak. confirm they play their new album.
how long is their set?
if i also vote all those songs i hear and ask them to play live!
can't wait siak. confirm they play their new album.
how long is their set?
well it's cool this show is happening, and while i may not go for personal reasons, however some of the comments here i find a little intriguing.
why can't a show be held at a community centre? is there a stipulation of a venue for hardcore? the venue was actually used before, back in 2004 for a DIY hardcore show featuring bands like RAMBO (USA), My Precious, Lead II Nitrate, etc...its quite a great venue, the neighbours are gonna be so pissed with the noise...but oh well who cares hahaha
how the hell is $55 for a hardcore show cheap? hardcore is an alternative genre with alternative ideas. dont get me wrong i understand totally why the organizers put the prices as such (CBK are a 'commercial' band under a 'commercial' label hence 'commercial' fees) but if it becomes a norm that hardcore gets expensive then the cultural aspect of that genre is screwed because there is no 'alternative' to it anymore. i wont go into 1000 word essays about what is OK and what is not...i think the issue here is PERCEPTION.
sound? ok fine its always great to have good sound but i thought hardcore is more than music? OK maybe the sound may be crummy, still so what? are you into hardcore to set standards or to have fun?
why can't a show be held at a community centre? is there a stipulation of a venue for hardcore? the venue was actually used before, back in 2004 for a DIY hardcore show featuring bands like RAMBO (USA), My Precious, Lead II Nitrate, etc...its quite a great venue, the neighbours are gonna be so pissed with the noise...but oh well who cares hahaha
how the hell is $55 for a hardcore show cheap? hardcore is an alternative genre with alternative ideas. dont get me wrong i understand totally why the organizers put the prices as such (CBK are a 'commercial' band under a 'commercial' label hence 'commercial' fees) but if it becomes a norm that hardcore gets expensive then the cultural aspect of that genre is screwed because there is no 'alternative' to it anymore. i wont go into 1000 word essays about what is OK and what is not...i think the issue here is PERCEPTION.
sound? ok fine its always great to have good sound but i thought hardcore is more than music? OK maybe the sound may be crummy, still so what? are you into hardcore to set standards or to have fun?
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recklessnick
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i actually dont mind the venue or the price. and 35 bucks for a mainstream band like comeback kid in a cc beats paying 100bucks to go to fort canning any day
euphorica
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true.
but what is fun when the bloody mic's not working!
but i got faith in this show.
cause BL (oops!
) is not organizing. HAHAHA.
again, as you said, perception. :]
BlotBlaBlaBla
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true.
but what is fun when the bloody mic's not working!
but i got faith in this show.
cause BL (oops!
HAHAHA.
again, as you said, perception. :]
agree!!! the katharsis show is just and example,
i guess they would be spreading Singapore's mic. lol
and hopefully there is no barricade or else there angry mob gonna get that out.
okay go stage diving!
+VE65
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Interesting comments everyone is posting.... from a show organizer's point of view I'll like to comment on 2 topics... sound at FC5/MA gig and barricades.
Sound
Unless the equipment is owned and operated by the organizer we have almost no control over this. It is the company where we get the equipment from who has to maintain it and make sure their soundman is competent. If I'm not wrong the equipment was from the *scape Studios.... so its their reputation on the line.
Soundman
I've been to many shows. Studio gigs, stadium shows, outdoor, indoors, big or small... its this guy that determines whether your show is a tight aural experience or just one big earache. Sad to say many people who claim to be a "soundman" know nuts about how to coax the best sound out of the equipment & surroundings.
Band
In some cases the bands themselves are to blame if u get a bad sound experience. Not knowing how to adjust the different settings on the amps, not tuning thier instruments or just simply not tight enough. I remember many years ago I attended a gig in JB. A Singaporean band was complaining the equipment sucks so thats why their set was bad. But right after them a Malaysian band came on..... A bad workman blames his tools.
Barricades
No organizer would want to put a barricade between the band and fans (well at least not us). Who wants to? It costs MONEY and in a hardcore gig (or any show) the band/fan interaction is why we all love to go to such shows. BUT unfortunately its a REQUIREMENT for getting a public entertainment license. No barricade = no show = everybody loose out.
The NOFX & Sick Of It All shows last year also had barricades but everyone got around that and was stage diving like nobody's business. The organizers, band & security were cool to people stage diving at those show so all of us went for it. Thats why hardcore/punk shows should be organized by hardcore/punk kids coz we understand.
The FC5/MA show was a commendable effort... kick ass bands for FREEEE! So can't complain much. Anywayz thats what this hardcore/punk/underground/whatever spirit is right? Its for the bands, the fans and the FUN we all have at the shows. Itz taking a bad experience and making the most out of it.
Sound
Unless the equipment is owned and operated by the organizer we have almost no control over this. It is the company where we get the equipment from who has to maintain it and make sure their soundman is competent. If I'm not wrong the equipment was from the *scape Studios.... so its their reputation on the line.
Soundman
I've been to many shows. Studio gigs, stadium shows, outdoor, indoors, big or small... its this guy that determines whether your show is a tight aural experience or just one big earache. Sad to say many people who claim to be a "soundman" know nuts about how to coax the best sound out of the equipment & surroundings.
Band
In some cases the bands themselves are to blame if u get a bad sound experience. Not knowing how to adjust the different settings on the amps, not tuning thier instruments or just simply not tight enough. I remember many years ago I attended a gig in JB. A Singaporean band was complaining the equipment sucks so thats why their set was bad. But right after them a Malaysian band came on..... A bad workman blames his tools.
Barricades
No organizer would want to put a barricade between the band and fans (well at least not us). Who wants to? It costs MONEY and in a hardcore gig (or any show) the band/fan interaction is why we all love to go to such shows. BUT unfortunately its a REQUIREMENT for getting a public entertainment license. No barricade = no show = everybody loose out.
The NOFX & Sick Of It All shows last year also had barricades but everyone got around that and was stage diving like nobody's business. The organizers, band & security were cool to people stage diving at those show so all of us went for it. Thats why hardcore/punk shows should be organized by hardcore/punk kids coz we understand.
The FC5/MA show was a commendable effort... kick ass bands for FREEEE! So can't complain much. Anywayz thats what this hardcore/punk/underground/whatever spirit is right? Its for the bands, the fans and the FUN we all have at the shows. Itz taking a bad experience and making the most out of it.
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Interesting comments indeed. As a a venue operator for music and a gig organiser/event promoter, here are my 2 cents worth. It is really a breath of fresh air to hear comments like these from fellow event promoters.
+65 does have a lot of valid points. Eventually, what makes a good gig great, is, 1. Sound 2. Band, 3. Audience. Won't comment any further. Allow me to digress thou.
Barricades
I've been reading so many comments about why there were barricades at the youth park for da Fc Five gig, but people do not know the problems faced if they are not placed there. Safety being 1, and well yes, for the Public Entertainment license. Safety is always a key issue at gigs, and making sure the audience gets to go to a safe show is the responsibility of the gig organiser, the bands and everyone.
If people want to stage dive and mosh, do it safely. If a person falls down, pick da guy/girl up. If you reach the barricade and security pulls you down, go around to the side and do it again. Its basically taking care of ther person next to you.
Take fights elsewhere.
In the end, Gigs organisers have to think of every aspect of the event.
having been from the hardcore scene back in the mid - late nighties, i have to admit that audience + band dynamics have changed somewhat. Gig venues have sprouted up, venues are 'seemingly' more tolerant of the harder side of things, and I believe the standard of local hardcore, is getting better.
At *scape, we hope to be just that, a venue that hopes to encourage the growth of young talent and in my case, music talent regardless of music genre.
I am actually looking forward to more gigs like this.
Can I also say that only the backline amplifiers belonged to *scape studios.
Dex
*scape
+65 does have a lot of valid points. Eventually, what makes a good gig great, is, 1. Sound 2. Band, 3. Audience. Won't comment any further. Allow me to digress thou.
Barricades
I've been reading so many comments about why there were barricades at the youth park for da Fc Five gig, but people do not know the problems faced if they are not placed there. Safety being 1, and well yes, for the Public Entertainment license. Safety is always a key issue at gigs, and making sure the audience gets to go to a safe show is the responsibility of the gig organiser, the bands and everyone.
If people want to stage dive and mosh, do it safely. If a person falls down, pick da guy/girl up. If you reach the barricade and security pulls you down, go around to the side and do it again. Its basically taking care of ther person next to you.
Take fights elsewhere.
In the end, Gigs organisers have to think of every aspect of the event.
having been from the hardcore scene back in the mid - late nighties, i have to admit that audience + band dynamics have changed somewhat. Gig venues have sprouted up, venues are 'seemingly' more tolerant of the harder side of things, and I believe the standard of local hardcore, is getting better.
At *scape, we hope to be just that, a venue that hopes to encourage the growth of young talent and in my case, music talent regardless of music genre.
I am actually looking forward to more gigs like this.
Can I also say that only the backline amplifiers belonged to *scape studios.
Dex
*scape
recklessnick
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in the spirit of hardcore and barricades
TEAR!
DOWN!
THESE!
WAAALLLLSSSS!
TEAR!
DOWN!
THESE!
WAAALLLLSSSS!
+VE65
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OK great the organizer has spoken. Give credit where itz due and letz all move on.
BlotBlaBlaBla
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no barricade or not must enjoy!!!!
stage dive okay go!
dirtyxsneaks
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AH THE BARRICADES AT YOUTH PARK FOR FCFIVE AND MILES AWAY LOOK MORE LIKE A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BELLA LUNA CREW AND CROWD TO ME. SERIOUSLY. THE ''SECURITY GUARDS'' WERE FRIGGIN' SINGING ALONG AND LETTING PEOPLE BODYSURF FOR GOD'S SAKES.
AND LETS NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE SOUND ANYMORE. USELESS NOW.
ANYWAY, COMEBACK F-ING KID! ABOUT TIME!
STAGE DIVE LIKE ITS MCPA, BABY! KIDS ON THE MOVE PLAYING WITH THEM FOR KL SHOW!! WOOOOOOOO!!!! [yet to find out the rest of the line up. but if there's eleven, restraint and deadscore. chooooon uh the kl show. sg already has forgive! kiwek. damn excited alr.]
I AM LOVING TWO DOUBLE O EIGHT! REPRESENT!!!
AND LETS NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE SOUND ANYMORE. USELESS NOW.
ANYWAY, COMEBACK F-ING KID! ABOUT TIME!
STAGE DIVE LIKE ITS MCPA, BABY! KIDS ON THE MOVE PLAYING WITH THEM FOR KL SHOW!! WOOOOOOOO!!!! [yet to find out the rest of the line up. but if there's eleven, restraint and deadscore. chooooon uh the kl show. sg already has forgive! kiwek. damn excited alr.]
I AM LOVING TWO DOUBLE O EIGHT! REPRESENT!!!
theusedrocks
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wow cooooooool!! who would think they'll come to singapore? :O:O awesomeness!
BlotBlaBlaBla
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CHANTIK!!!!
2008 is a good year for the Singapore hardcore scene,
we really exists!
kl show confirm much more power. Singapore lagi power la got the jabs overthrown and FORGIVEEE~~~~~~~~
okok im not competing.
okay go learn to stage dive the proper way or back to the line!! hahaha
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