Change my flyod rose to normal..

[Nefianz]

hey people.. i would like to change my flyod rose to a normal guitar bridge..

cuz i seldom use it and the stuff i play always hv diff tunings.. and i hv to unlock the nut then i can tune.. very tedious..

do u guys hv any recommendations?

shld i DIY or bring it to a lutheir? btw izzit gonna b ex?

 

[ShredCow]

You can fill up the trem route and put a fixed bridge there like what Paul Gilbert did.. but you will be able to see the outline of the fill there.
Yes you got to bring it to a tech to do.

For a temporary solution, do this.
Unlock the nut, take out the locking pads... you wouldn't need them.
Block your trem with stacked coins at the back of the body.... remove your springs. There, a fixed bridge....

 

[thor666]

actually u can just remove the top locking nut. i used to do that to Drop D. since you aren't using the floyd much anyway you shouldn't go out of tune that much.

 

[mikemann]

The cheapest method is to block your trem (send to a tech, a cheap fix anyway, but DIY for user normally bring less desirable result or damage). Then simply remove the neck locks and keep them.

To safely and properly block the trem require skill and know how (meaning, totally reversible mod). Not just anyhow jam paper or cloth or battery or whatever inside the cavity.

To convert back to a normal bridge from a FR is a costly affair, if sent to a professional. And almost impossible to do by a non professional. This is non reversible.

One case study is that during the 80's when FR were super hot. People with 70's or even 60's gibbys were converting them to FR. By the mid 90's many had regreted it as the value of vintage gibbys has gone up many folds. So there were substantial number of re-coversions done. But, the value of the gibbys were already greatly destroyed by the FR conversion done initially.

 

[Nefianz]

i was told that if i took out all 3 nuts the trem will sink in.. so if it sinks in i take out the springs, it'll b like a fixed bridge already?

 

[mikemann]

Like I say, the effect or outcome will not be desirable. The FR system is a complex system, not something like tighten a screw or remove a screw will surffice for a drastic change in operation like what you want.

From the way you describe it, I strongly reccomend that you send to a professional to get it done. Or you will likely undo whatever setup done previously and render your guitar highly unplayable.

 

[echoist]

my recommendation is placing blocks of wood on both sides of the trem block in the spring cavity. refer to diagram, its the darker cross-shaded blocks. i did it long time ago on an ibanez rg550 i owned when i tried to play dropped-D Meantime by Helmet and the C# tuning by Godflesh without the hassle of always re-tuning.

the only problem u might encounter is getting the perfect thickness for the block of wood. but a woodwork file and saw will be handy. tho u need to work a bit more. the wood can easily be bought from Artfriend at bras basah. don't go for MCD board, choose solid wood instead as it is easier to work with.

 

[embryo]

i was told that if i took out all 3 nuts the trem will sink in.. so if it sinks in i take out the springs, it'll b like a fixed bridge already?

Well if it were a Strat you can load up to 5 springs and tighten the claw all the way in this will pull the tremblock against the body. There's a discernible improvement in the tone when the Strat is set up like that.

If your guitar is like the Ibanez Jem series of guitars or others that have a Swimming Pool or Kitchen Sink under the Floyd Rose type Tremolo bridge plate to fascillitate the "pull ups" like the way players like Vai like to use it then you cannot apply the above stated Strat solution for converting your trem to a hard tail as the trem will of course sink backwards.

One solution is to approach a reputable luthier (eg. Malcom) to take a look at your guitar and observe the type of wood, the cavity dimensions and fabricate a woodblock that will fill up the gap between the trem block and the body. This method is the surest method of ensuring full transfer of the string vibrations and improve tone and sustain.

 

[theblueark]

was told that if i took out all 3 nuts the trem will sink in.. so if it sinks in i take out the springs, it'll b like a fixed bridge already?

No, it will not sink in if you take out the nuts, unless you detune, then yes, it will sink in. If you take out the springs there is nothing balancing the string tension and your bridge will just drop off. Its like a see-saw. The springs tension the bridge backwards into the body and the strings tension it forwards out of the body. You have to keep perfect balance to keep it in place. So you have to adjust your spring tension to match your string tension. Which is why you cannot simply change tunings or string gauges.

No need tech, it's not that difficult to do. Just block off the trem with a block of wood to the angle you want and loosen the springs or remove one to keep it locked there.

Here:

Like this:

Or:

Or you can buy a Tremol-no, soon to be sold by Allparts. This is a device used to lock your bridge with a twist of 2 screws. Can unlock and lock quickly.

Demo(large):http://www.tremol-no.com/videos/T-NoDemoVideoWMVlarge.WMV
Demo(small, for faster load):http://www.tremol-no.com/videos/T-NoDemoVideoWMVsmall.WMV
More info:www.tremol-no.com

Alternative methods:
Use screws

Block in front and tighten springs.

Block in recessed area:

 

[ShredCow]

I'm waiting for the tremol-no... its been advertised on jemsite for AGES!

Actually considering that or the ESP Arming Adjuster (similiar to Ibanez backstop)... no tremsetter for me.