Buffered pedals affecting my guitar tone badly

[Nicholasim]

Hi everyone,

Hope you guys can help me with a problem that i am facing. Basically, i am having issues with buffered pedals affect my guitar tone and its not just a subtle difference, its a BIG difference in tone.

Let me explain my chain of effects here (simplified version):

Guitar -> Morley mini volume/wah (buffered)-> 7th heaven -> boss DD-20 (buffered)-> Amp

Ok, let me explain my process:

- I plugged guitar -> 7th heaven -> amp. Set the perfect distortion tone i want.

- I place the morley mini wah/volume (buffered) before my 7th heaven. Guitar -> mini vol/wah -> 7th heaven -> amp. The tone sounds better due to the buffer before the drive.

- i add the dd20 (buffered) after the drive, 7th heaven. Guitar -> mini vol/wah -> 7th heaven -> dd20-> amp. Now the tone is extremely shrill and thin.


No matter what buffered pedal i put after the 7th heaven, i get the same problem (i have 3 different buffered pedals to test)

Does anyone know how to solve this? I must have my delay at the end but i cant work with the tone of the drive.

 

[J.custom]

Get a true bypass looper, problem solved!

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

the true bypass looper will help to a certain extend, provided its always on and bypassing the buffered pedal, without letting it run in combo with the rest, but then thats as good as not having the buffered pedal in the chain.

Anytime when the buffered pedal is being mixed in the chain via the tb looper, the buffer is going to kick into play (regardless whether the buffered pedal is on/off). The buffer circuit prolly has no way to turn off(even if the effect is off). It will be part of the chain as long the buffered pedal is along the path of signal flow

imho, there are 2 ways to go about it,

1) Ditched the buffered pedals. No 2 ways about it. Since knowing their presence is adding unnecessary thinning factor to the sound. So why prolong the pain in trying to have them around?

2) 2nd way, cant get rid of the shrillness/thinning entirely and still having existing pedal. It will only compensate to certain extend, but its free and make use of existing equipment, aka the tone/eq setting on the amp and also the pedals, if having any.

 

[zesn]

Would suggest you to just ditch the buffered pedal that you know is causing you issues in the chain and find a replacement that is true bypass, or get a true bypass looper as well.

IMO you could also dial up the "tone loss" back on the amp but it's never quite the same.

 

[Nicholasim]

Thanks for the replies! Sorry i did not see them until today. Not sure why it didnt appear on my update feed. Nevertheless, the problem has been solved on TGP.

If you're interested to know what the issue was, here is the link to the thread:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1444869

Cheers!