BBE Supa Charger Power Supply...
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tubescreamer
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I'll be receiving mine in the mail this week. Will PM you when it arrives.
Hyuk hyuk, I know... I've been putting this off for the longest time but I've come to realise the importance of a quiet power supply especially now that I'm trying to do some recording =)
So Mr Goose, in your opinion... BBE Supa Charger - bang for buck? Or top up another $100 and get the Voodoo Labs PP2+?
So Mr Goose, in your opinion... BBE Supa Charger - bang for buck? Or top up another $100 and get the Voodoo Labs PP2+?
tubescreamer
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The main advantages of the PP2+ are:
The courtesy outlet
The 'sag' function
While the disadvantages are:
The insane prices - $380 at SL, $299 during their 'sale' now
The straight connector cables - right angled one's save ALOT of space
The unswitchable voltage - should you have to play overseas, you'll need a transformer
Other than that, they are pretty much similar. The VL owner posted on TGP sometime back denouncing the BBE as a cheap copy, although I suspect he's just worried about a more cost-efficient option cutting into his sales. If VL had dispensed with the fixed voltage thing to 'protect their dealers', and sold direct instead at better prices, that wouldn't be a problem at all.
I'm current using the T-Rex Fuel Tank Jr, but the 5 outlets aren't enough for me. Will probably be letting it go once the BBE arrives. I used a 1Spot prior to the FT, and got worried after hearing the horror stories about unregulated supplies.
gsonique
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how much for the Trex FT? ;>
Btw here is another
http://www.modtone-effects.com/page.php?page=&pageid=Power-Plant-Variable-Voltage-En1
Btw here is another
http://www.modtone-effects.com/page.php?page=&pageid=Power-Plant-Variable-Voltage-En1
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gsonique
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dudelove
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tubescreamer
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I've had my Supa-charger for some time now, so I thought I'd chime in.
Size/Build quality: Slightly shorter than the PP2+, but still fits perfectly into the brackets that came with my PT2. Powdercoated finish seems durable enough, just take care of it and you should be fine.
Performance: Really makes your pedals MUCH quieter. My Barber Tone Press hummed like crazy when powered with my 1Spot, and the BBE remedied that problem.
Included accessories: 8 right angled connector cables, 2 reverse polarity cables (red). No instruction manual included. Good thing I googled for the manual, or I could have fried some of my pedals with the red cables :/
Improvements: If only there were current doubler and voltage doubler cables. I don't need the courtesy outlet (won't be accessible with the power supply mounted onto the PT2 anyway) so I have no issues with that.
Size/Build quality: Slightly shorter than the PP2+, but still fits perfectly into the brackets that came with my PT2. Powdercoated finish seems durable enough, just take care of it and you should be fine.
Performance: Really makes your pedals MUCH quieter. My Barber Tone Press hummed like crazy when powered with my 1Spot, and the BBE remedied that problem.
Included accessories: 8 right angled connector cables, 2 reverse polarity cables (red). No instruction manual included. Good thing I googled for the manual, or I could have fried some of my pedals with the red cables :/
Improvements: If only there were current doubler and voltage doubler cables. I don't need the courtesy outlet (won't be accessible with the power supply mounted onto the PT2 anyway) so I have no issues with that.
EADGBe
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THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING SUBJECT.
I own a Modtone Power Plant which is applicable to 120V 60Hz (North America), 100V 60Hz (Japan) and 230V 50/60Hz (Europe/Australia)
Outputs: 5.5x2.1mm barrel connectors center negative
Supply A: Seven 9VDC 150mA regulated
Supply B: One 9V AC 1000mA regulated
Type A: Five selectable from 9V-12V DC
Type B: Two adjustable sag 4V to 9V DC
Short circuit protected
Physical: 7 1/4” wide x 3.5” deep x 2.0” tall
Weight 2.25 lbs.
Special: Toroidal power transformer.
AC: Auxiliary AC outlet, 200 watts max.
I am running the Modtone to the Boss ME-25 (although it is difficult to verifiy but the ME-25 requires 200mA. 6W), Behringer D/I but plan to use it for another board as this is just a grab-n-go board.
The following is my main question.
The recommended Boss PSA is 9V at 200mA. See http://en.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/BOSS+PSA+230+P+ALIMENTATION+TRANSFO-2.JPG. Would the Modtone suffer over time or would the ME-25 suffer over time or be underperforming since is the drawing less amperage?
For example, if I need to drink 10 cups of water a day and the suppy is giving me only 5, would I be underperforming or would the supply be running out sooner?
Or, a small motor requires 200mA but the supply is 100mA - the motor might still turn albeit at slower than designed RPM (revolutions per minute). Would the motor be hurt or the supply overheat?
That makes me to wonder, would the Chorus, the Overdrive or the Distortion be sounding less than what the designers had made them to be because I am using a lesser adapter than recommended?
At room temperature, I have yet to notice any significant heat being present in the Modtone.
What would happen if I were to fully load up the Modtone on my second board which goes like this --- Guitar > Volume Pedal > Wah Pedal > Distortion Pedal > Nova System > D/I Box > House. All will use the Modtone, even the Nova.
Of course, I will be powering this chain up soon and will post the results here.
Another question - would a different Power Supply be better?
I own a Modtone Power Plant which is applicable to 120V 60Hz (North America), 100V 60Hz (Japan) and 230V 50/60Hz (Europe/Australia)
Outputs: 5.5x2.1mm barrel connectors center negative
Supply A: Seven 9VDC 150mA regulated
Supply B: One 9V AC 1000mA regulated
Type A: Five selectable from 9V-12V DC
Type B: Two adjustable sag 4V to 9V DC
Short circuit protected
Physical: 7 1/4” wide x 3.5” deep x 2.0” tall
Weight 2.25 lbs.
Special: Toroidal power transformer.
AC: Auxiliary AC outlet, 200 watts max.
I am running the Modtone to the Boss ME-25 (although it is difficult to verifiy but the ME-25 requires 200mA. 6W), Behringer D/I but plan to use it for another board as this is just a grab-n-go board.
The following is my main question.
The recommended Boss PSA is 9V at 200mA. See http://en.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/BOSS+PSA+230+P+ALIMENTATION+TRANSFO-2.JPG. Would the Modtone suffer over time or would the ME-25 suffer over time or be underperforming since is the drawing less amperage?
For example, if I need to drink 10 cups of water a day and the suppy is giving me only 5, would I be underperforming or would the supply be running out sooner?
Or, a small motor requires 200mA but the supply is 100mA - the motor might still turn albeit at slower than designed RPM (revolutions per minute). Would the motor be hurt or the supply overheat?
That makes me to wonder, would the Chorus, the Overdrive or the Distortion be sounding less than what the designers had made them to be because I am using a lesser adapter than recommended?
At room temperature, I have yet to notice any significant heat being present in the Modtone.
What would happen if I were to fully load up the Modtone on my second board which goes like this --- Guitar > Volume Pedal > Wah Pedal > Distortion Pedal > Nova System > D/I Box > House. All will use the Modtone, even the Nova.
Of course, I will be powering this chain up soon and will post the results here.
Another question - would a different Power Supply be better?
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to EADGBe: the recommended adaptor for ME-25 will surely be boss PSA, since it is their own product.
having said that, i think ME-25 does not draw 200 mA worth of current. you should check in the manual how much it draws, but my guess would be that it in fact draws slightly less than 100 mA, or around 100 mA.
Point is, if it runs on your Modtone adaptor which supplies 150 mA, than it draws less current than that. If a pedal is supplied with not enough current:
1. it might not function
2. it might function but with less capability than what it is originally designed for
but regardless, it may cause your pedals to go away, not in peace.
so if your boss ME-25 is working properly, than it is fine. however, to be safe, just check the current draw of that particular effect.
also, it is a good rule of thumb to leave at least 10%-15% of the maximum current load from the adaptor free. this is to anticipate for current surge (which may happen due to various reasons, but it does happen)
i hope it helps
having said that, i think ME-25 does not draw 200 mA worth of current. you should check in the manual how much it draws, but my guess would be that it in fact draws slightly less than 100 mA, or around 100 mA.
Point is, if it runs on your Modtone adaptor which supplies 150 mA, than it draws less current than that. If a pedal is supplied with not enough current:
1. it might not function
2. it might function but with less capability than what it is originally designed for
but regardless, it may cause your pedals to go away, not in peace.
so if your boss ME-25 is working properly, than it is fine. however, to be safe, just check the current draw of that particular effect.
also, it is a good rule of thumb to leave at least 10%-15% of the maximum current load from the adaptor free. this is to anticipate for current surge (which may happen due to various reasons, but it does happen)
i hope it helps
