Audio interface with 8 analog i/o and ADAT i/o
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For more budget, try Emu 1820m, featuring the same A/D convertors as the Digidesign HD 192. Rem must have the "m", if not it don't have this features. And it also features 8-in, 8-out, ADAT, 2 set of MIDI I/O, etc. $899
For compatible with Protools, yet budget, try M-Audio Firewire 1814, have 8-in 8-out and ADAT & MIDI too. $995.
For more controls, yet got all the I/O that you mentioned, cum compatiable with Protools, and the price is still considered quite a good deal, maybe you wanna look out for the new M-Audio ProjectMix I/O @ $2200.
For compatible with Protools, yet budget, try M-Audio Firewire 1814, have 8-in 8-out and ADAT & MIDI too. $995.
For more controls, yet got all the I/O that you mentioned, cum compatiable with Protools, and the price is still considered quite a good deal, maybe you wanna look out for the new M-Audio ProjectMix I/O @ $2200.
robsg said:
Oops! My bad.
My apologies for not letting my intentions known. Im currently researching the market for a suitable recording setup and calculating my budget for it. I need 16 simultaneous recording channels and 16 simultaneous outs for mixdown. Having a self-debate if I wanna go the Pro Tools way or not lol. But any software/hardware combi I'll end up choosing, I would still need an additional standalone hardware with 8 analog ins/outs and 8 ADAT in/out.
If you really need the ADAT in, then i think you have to go with the M-audio stuff.
However, remember that if you are going with pro-tools LE, the 002 already has 8 ADAT in. Why do you need a hardware interface with ADAT in? unless the interface can also act as a recorder.
Robin
However, remember that if you are going with pro-tools LE, the 002 already has 8 ADAT in. Why do you need a hardware interface with ADAT in? unless the interface can also act as a recorder.
Robin
Thanks for the find victorp! I must admit I've never heard of the brand but it does what I need!
robsg,
while protools LE already has 8 ADAT in, why I require the additional hardware to have ADAT in as well is because I need, in all, 16 simultaneous analog outs. 002 provides me with only 8 analog outs but I need 16. This is so i can route the analog outs to my analog mixer. I guess I forgot to mention my ideal "set up" didnt I?
in: 16 mics > analog mixer > protools le + additional interface > DAW
out: DAW > protools le + additional interface > analog mixer > headphone cues, monitors etc
Im making my life difficult by not getting a digital mixer but all in an effort to cut costs for a start up recording studio. :wink:
robsg,
while protools LE already has 8 ADAT in, why I require the additional hardware to have ADAT in as well is because I need, in all, 16 simultaneous analog outs. 002 provides me with only 8 analog outs but I need 16. This is so i can route the analog outs to my analog mixer. I guess I forgot to mention my ideal "set up" didnt I?
in: 16 mics > analog mixer > protools le + additional interface > DAW
out: DAW > protools le + additional interface > analog mixer > headphone cues, monitors etc
Im making my life difficult by not getting a digital mixer but all in an effort to cut costs for a start up recording studio. :wink:
Marian brand is reliable, and their audio cards are OEM for some other companies. My company distributes Marian in Singapore, and one model seems to be very popular to research institutions in Singapore.LuZeR said:
Please PM me for pricing, and I do happen to have one in stock.
blueprintstudios
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yeah, i mean, maybe i seem like a newbie, but I totally don't get what you're doing here.
I've always thought the signal chain as
instruments > mics > preamps > soundcard > PC(DAW)
and for monitoring. my soundcard has outs > headphone amp.
in your case
" in: 16 mics > analog mixer > protools le + additional interface > DAW
out: DAW > protools le + additional interface > analog mixer > headphone cues, monitors etc "
from mics > analog mixer (you're using as a preamp or/and you EQ the recording inputs?) > pro tools etc etc
out: DAW > pro tools > analog mixer (again? unless you want the band members to mix at their own comfort?) > monitors.
i'm not sure if this is what you want, i'm selling this echo audio layla 24 is it of any use? it's got ADAT in / out / midi / 8 analog ins and 8 analog outs.
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=echoaudiolayla24pci02gy5.jpg
how I had it connected was.
Audix Fusion 7 mics > 2 Behringer ADA8000s > echo audio layla 24
1 behringer adat is connected by an optical light pipe.
1 behringer adat is connected by 8 XLR > TRS 1/4 jack
that's 16 recording tracks.
hope this helps.
20¢ worth.
I've always thought the signal chain as
instruments > mics > preamps > soundcard > PC(DAW)
and for monitoring. my soundcard has outs > headphone amp.
in your case
" in: 16 mics > analog mixer > protools le + additional interface > DAW
out: DAW > protools le + additional interface > analog mixer > headphone cues, monitors etc "
from mics > analog mixer (you're using as a preamp or/and you EQ the recording inputs?) > pro tools etc etc
out: DAW > pro tools > analog mixer (again? unless you want the band members to mix at their own comfort?) > monitors.
i'm not sure if this is what you want, i'm selling this echo audio layla 24 is it of any use? it's got ADAT in / out / midi / 8 analog ins and 8 analog outs.
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=echoaudiolayla24pci02gy5.jpg
how I had it connected was.
Audix Fusion 7 mics > 2 Behringer ADA8000s > echo audio layla 24
1 behringer adat is connected by an optical light pipe.
1 behringer adat is connected by 8 XLR > TRS 1/4 jack
that's 16 recording tracks.
hope this helps.
20¢ worth.
Luzer,
looking at your setup, you do not need 16 ADAT out right?
you only need analogue outs. Your original mail states that you need ADAT device with 16 ADAT in and outs? unless your mixer accepts ADAT ins.
Well, the focusrite octopre certainly has 8 analogue outs. But it is your call which device you wanna use, just offering my observations. No offense intended.
And also James has a point. If you are recording to a DAW, you will unlikely need so many analogue outs during the mixdown stage. However, having the option of analogue outs straight from the pre-amps of the octopre certainly will eliminate any latency monitoring problems
Regards
Robin
looking at your setup, you do not need 16 ADAT out right?
you only need analogue outs. Your original mail states that you need ADAT device with 16 ADAT in and outs? unless your mixer accepts ADAT ins.
Well, the focusrite octopre certainly has 8 analogue outs. But it is your call which device you wanna use, just offering my observations. No offense intended.
And also James has a point. If you are recording to a DAW, you will unlikely need so many analogue outs during the mixdown stage. However, having the option of analogue outs straight from the pre-amps of the octopre certainly will eliminate any latency monitoring problems
Regards
Robin
I'll be using the analog mixer as preamps and the ADAT interfaces as transparent A/D converters into the DAW. I wont be using the analog mixer for mixdown that's for sure but I would love to use the aux sends or busses on the analog mixer as headphone cues for the band members. My apologies to everyone for stating 16 simultaneous outs for mixdown stage. What I really need I guess is the flexibility during the recording/tracking stage.
The aux sends/busses allow me flexible routing for headphone cues e.g. drummer wants to hear his whole kit and bass guitar only but not vocals and lead guitar, etc. The more aux sends/busses i have on the mixer, the more flexible i can be with the headphone cues and that is priceless when i'm faced with many artistes recording at the same time but each wanting different needs should the situation arise.
Can I achieve the same thing without the analog mixer and just by the A/D hardwares and within the DAW itself? If I can, then I have less things to worry and make things less complicated than it is lol.
Another thing.....robsg, no offense taken but I need to be clear on one thing that's confusing me. I apologise to everyone if I'm confusing everyone as well lol. Again, I must emphasise that I need flexibility during recording/tracking but not mixdown. With 16 recording channels already in the DAW, I do need 16 discreet analogue outs right?
So if im using Digi 002, how do I output 16 discreet channels if the interface only has 8 outs? Don't I need to send the other 8 channels via ADAT out from Digi 002 into ADAT in of the other interface to get the remaining analog outs?
If I'm wrong about it, please do let me know so that I dont make things more complicated than it's supposed to be.
robsg, you brought up an important point which I overlooked: latency. Although I'm not aware if there will be latency but you're right that direct analog outs is ideal for monitoring. Which why I've decided that, if I'm using Digi 002, I'll use the Monitor Outs from there instead since my focus is on the recording/tracking stage. It's a great discussion here lol.
The aux sends/busses allow me flexible routing for headphone cues e.g. drummer wants to hear his whole kit and bass guitar only but not vocals and lead guitar, etc. The more aux sends/busses i have on the mixer, the more flexible i can be with the headphone cues and that is priceless when i'm faced with many artistes recording at the same time but each wanting different needs should the situation arise.
Can I achieve the same thing without the analog mixer and just by the A/D hardwares and within the DAW itself? If I can, then I have less things to worry and make things less complicated than it is lol.
Another thing.....robsg, no offense taken but I need to be clear on one thing that's confusing me. I apologise to everyone if I'm confusing everyone as well lol. Again, I must emphasise that I need flexibility during recording/tracking but not mixdown. With 16 recording channels already in the DAW, I do need 16 discreet analogue outs right?
So if im using Digi 002, how do I output 16 discreet channels if the interface only has 8 outs? Don't I need to send the other 8 channels via ADAT out from Digi 002 into ADAT in of the other interface to get the remaining analog outs?
If I'm wrong about it, please do let me know so that I dont make things more complicated than it's supposed to be.
robsg, you brought up an important point which I overlooked: latency. Although I'm not aware if there will be latency but you're right that direct analog outs is ideal for monitoring. Which why I've decided that, if I'm using Digi 002, I'll use the Monitor Outs from there instead since my focus is on the recording/tracking stage. It's a great discussion here lol.
Oops!! I think i'll just bite my tongue lol. Yes, I am making things complicated and no I dont need an additional hardware with ADAT in.
I finally understood what you guys have been trying to say especially robsg, sorry loads!!
Yes, i just need the additional interface to have 8 analog ins and an ADAT out...in fact with what I said I dont even need the additional 8 analog outs...i could do everything from the mixer....wth was I thinking?? lol
I finally understood what you guys have been trying to say especially robsg, sorry loads!!
Yes, i just need the additional interface to have 8 analog ins and an ADAT out...in fact with what I said I dont even need the additional 8 analog outs...i could do everything from the mixer....wth was I thinking?? lol
blueprintstudios
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it'll be nice to see photos when everything's up.
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