Alsesis Fusion 8HD

Owning? Impossible. It hasn't even shipped yet. Tentatively Sept 2005 but I won't hold my breathe as synth manufacturers are as notorious as software coy for overly optimistic shipping dates.

As for close encounters, perhaps Simon of Sinamex saw/touched it during Winter NAMM 2005.
 
It's here in Singapore already?!?! oh my! lol

yea, price pls!!! lol

*excited but most probably takes years of saving up to afford it lol*
 
most probably....

anyway i've been around their fusionsynth forums...and they were saying that it's more for its synthesis engine then for its on board sounds.....so im assuming that if you are gonna get it for how it sounds right out of the box then you may be disappointed.....but if you know synthesis and have the patience to work it through, you'll be pleased with how it can potentially sound
 
LuZeR said:
most probably....

anyway i've been around their fusionsynth forums...and they were saying that it's more for its synthesis engine then for its on board sounds.....so im assuming that if you are gonna get it for how it sounds right out of the box then you may be disappointed.....but if you know synthesis and have the patience to work it through, you'll be pleased with how it can potentially sound

On the other hand, the Korg Oasys seems to have an excellent write up on sound quality in Keyboard Oct 2005.

Summary:
Pros
Extremely high quality sound. Power synthesis engine with more to come.
Feels like an instrument. Amazaing Feature List

Cons
High cost makes it inaccessible to all but the well heeled and/or ultra serious.
 
Quick! Somebody get their hands on the Korg and Alesis, and do a review and comparison of both of them!!!

Anyway, I'll be in New York in 2 weeks time for a conference. I'll pop by to B&H Photo to check out their keyboards. Hopefully can try something that we can't find in Singapore. Maybe there have the Oasys there.
 
Cheez said:
Quick! Somebody get their hands on the Korg and Alesis, and do a review and comparison of both of them!!!

Anyway, I'll be in New York in 2 weeks time for a conference. I'll pop by to B&H Photo to check out their keyboards. Hopefully can try something that we can't find in Singapore. Maybe there have the Oasys there.

wow! you're a Travelling Man !!!
can easily get some good 2nd hand gear in US
 
LuZeR said:
If u wanna try the oasys, there's one in City Music.....but 61 key version though

That's what I like about City Music. They are willing to display the latest and the best for all to try.

I remember when they had an Emulator II, Oberheim Xpander, Kurzweil 250 for testing even though I couldn't afford a single knob on those hings.

Yes, I'm that old.
 
that's why they call themselves CITY MUSIC.

anyway, I've heard that regional musicians sometimes
drop by Singapore to buy gear and that's where CITY MUSIC
provides KORG gear !!!
 
OK. Just went to Sam Ash in New Jersey - one of the largest music stores. Didn't get to spend too much time there unfortunately (my wife was taking the kids to Toys 'R Us and I had only about 1 hour).

Anyway, I was very impressed with Sam Ash. LOTS OF KEYBOARDS and most of them already turned on and hooked onto amps, and ready to be tried out (LowJK, Bongman, Iansoh etc, wish you guys were here to see this!). Due to the short time, I only had time to try out the Roland RD 700SX and of course, I couldn't resist the Alesis Fusion 8HD. Didn't even get to touch the many Novation keyboards. Too bad the only Oasys they had was in New York and I don't have time to make a trip there - they don't seem to think it will sell due to the hefty price and so did not bring it in. Also to my disappointment, they didn't have the Kawai MP4 which they said they had in their website. But they got the entire family of Triton and Fantom, all displayed and turned on. I also wanted to try the Roland VR-760 but alas, no time.

Anyway, my impression of the Alesis (due to the short time I had with it, I didn't think it is fair to post this in the review section; I won't repeat what's already available at the fusion website; I didn't have time to go deeper into the shell of their sampling, FM, VA synthesis):

1. Initial impression: looks like a spaceship command post as Bongman pointed out in another thread - in fact, it feels like a spaceship command post. Took a little time to get used to manipulate it. Very cool blue light when you move the mod wheels and pitch bend.

2. Touch - I tried out the 88 fully weighted version. It is too light to be really classified as a fully weighted. Felt more like a heavy semi-weighted. There's after-touch. But since it is not built to be a digital piano, I'm not too picky about it.

3. Sounds - their standard GM sounds are...standard sounds. I'm not sure if their first patch (Holy Grail Piano) is the same as the one by Q-up Arts but it certainly didn't sound like the name. Thin as usual. I've only time to try the piano, a few strings, flute, pan flute - and they can't match others like those from Roland. But again, I'm not too picky in this case since I know the strength of the Fusion lies elsewhere. Hence I spent most of my time on their leads, pads and FX patches which really shine when you use the realtime controls. But to my dismay, I thought they would have included more leads, pads and FX sounds - at least proportionately more than their orchestral sounds (which aren't that great). They should have capitalised on their strength.

4. Realtime control. This is where the real fun is. You can get really out of the world sounds with this in realtime. The frequency and resonance knobs are the main ones that can really change the character of a sound (particularly the frequency knob). All knobs are endless pots with easy grip (large comfortable knobs) with smooth turns. The tempo control flashes according to the bpm. If you increase the bpm, the light flashes faster and vice versa - good to know roughly what bpm you are at in arppegiator sounds. I can spend hours on this alone. The possibilities are endless - I managed to get some really unusual space-scape sounds - wish I can sample those to import into my softsampler!

Problems:

1. The most obvious one is the loading of each patch. When you scroll quickly down the menu, you can see that once in a while, it takes a split second to load a patch (a loading bar appears on the screen). That's where I can't figure out their technology. As a ROMpler, patch recall should be instantaneous. The few milliseconds of loading suggest that they are loading the sounds into RAM rather than just recalling from ROM. The loading time is short but in live situations may have some problems. I asked the manager about this - he told me that the Alesis tech person acknowledged this problem. Apparently the only way to workaround it is to create a patch list of all the sounds one will need to play live and load them prior to a live gig.

2. Most sounds have a decay after one releases the key - some sounds longer than others. In most keyboards I know, the decay of first sound goes on even when I switch to another second patch/sound so the change between sounds is subtle. This is not so with the Fusion. For example, you play sound A; you release it but the sound goes on with a decay; you switch to sound B; the decay suddenly changes to the decay in sound B. This is very annoying for live situations especially when one need to change sounds often. Rolands/Yamahas etc don't have this problem. I'm not sure if this problem exist because the sounds are loaded into RAM.

Other than that, I really like the unusual sounds the Fusion can produce. Oh, by the way, Sam Ash in the US is selling it for 1999USD.
 
Cheez said:
OK. Just went to Sam Ash in New Jersey - one of the largest music stores. Didn't get to spend too much time there unfortunately (my wife was taking the kids to Toys 'R Us and I had only about 1 hour).

Sigh. What else is new?
During a recent trip to HK -
Time spent in Tom Lee = 20 min
Time spent in Toy R US, toys dept & stores = 4 hours.

Not very keen on hardware synth these days.
The only ones that hold any fascination for me are not easily bought in Singapore - Dave Smith Poly Evolver, Nord G2 engine, Creamware Minimax ASB & Profit ASB.

However, if Swee Lee gives a big discount on the Fantom XR or if Yamaha does the same with the Motif Rack ES, I may still be tempted by ROMplers.
 
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