Action problem.

Phil

Phil

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First off, my neck is straight, and the FR's at a perfect float.
And my action's higher than I desire.

And when I lower the trem, certain strings go dead, eg: on the Gstring, the 11th and the 12th fret sounds the same.

What can I do now?

I need some help with this, thanks in advance.
 
If your neck is dead straight, you lower the bridge and your action goes dead, that means your action is wayyy too low! :D

Give a measurement of your action. hi E and low E @ 12th fret and 24th fret, top of fret to bottom of string.
 
high E at 12th = 2mm
at 24th = 1.6mm

low E at 12th = 1.8mm
at 24th = 1.5mm

Right now it's kinda low already, without any dead notes. But I've went lower before. And was wondering what the hell's wrong. I've changed from thinner to thicker strings, and thicker strings by right should afford lower action, yes?
But I think I'll try and get used to higher action, after all higher action affords better tone, SRV!
:lol:
 
Your action is lop sided. Usually, the treble will be low but the bass side higher.

Mine is somewhere... Just 1mm @ hi E, 22nd fret. Low E? 1.5mm @ 22nd fret. With 0.09s. If I used 10s, i could go lower.

Thicker strings vibrate in a smaller arc, so less buzz and hence, affording you lower action. However, for a floyd rose equipped guitar, I am not in favour of higher action; the FR stiffens up just too much.... but its IMO only.

It could be some fret wear. Check.
 
Problem ... My FR trem problem solved quite a while back .. But you know when you want to tune .. So i unlock the nut and tune up .. when i tune all finish from low e to high e, i play low e again and it will quite out of tune, and so will a few of the other strings .. So i tune all same way again, and when i play, low e out of tune again and the others ... i do this a whole lot, my trem level goes above neutral quite alot from all the tuning before i can tune all without the bass strings going out of tune ... So basically i want it to be at neutral, and the screws at the back have been screwed inside alot ... So how???
 
Detroit:
Are those new strings? Maybe some stretching would help? And you mean you've adjusted the springs already?

Shred:
It's not fret wear, and what can explain the lop-sidedness? And how can I go lower?
You action is pretty darn low already, so is your trem stiff then?
 
detroit_red: that's the reason why locking nuts where invented! :lol:

but mainly, you try to set to roughly standard tuning at neutral settings and fine tune with the fine tuners.

go to ShredCow (buy him some drinks or a pack of strings), he has a method that works very well imo.
 
Actually you just potter around with it and eventually everything will sort itself out.

I called Shred the other day to ask about the springs, was completely confused then, pottered around with the darn thing and then managed to get everything done up.

But I love that darn thing. :wink: And also a thank you to Shred.

Detroit:
You are saying that when you lock everything and play the note, it's always slightly higher/lower?
If it's always higher after locking, then when you tune it up(not locked), tune it slightly lower.
So when you lock the nuts and all, you'll just need to tune it up slightly and it'll be settled.

I hope you understand what I'm saying, and I hope it helps.
 
The lower your Floyd, the stiffer it will become.

Phil, you should bring the guitar to me, at least let me run thru a setup with you, then you will understand.

Same for detriot. For goodness sake man! I work in TP! :D
 
You work in TP?
Yes I should really arrange a meeting with you, for educational purposes.
But it'll have to be next next week as my exams are here.
I'll contact you about this? :wink:
 
detroit_red said:
Problem ... My FR trem problem solved quite a while back .. But you know when you want to tune .. So i unlock the nut and tune up .. when i tune all finish from low e to high e, i play low e again and it will quite out of tune, and so will a few of the other strings .. So i tune all same way again, and when i play, low e out of tune again and the others ... i do this a whole lot, my trem level goes above neutral quite alot from all the tuning before i can tune all without the bass strings going out of tune ... So basically i want it to be at neutral, and the screws at the back have been screwed inside alot ... So how???
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The Low E will go out of tune as you tune the other strings, because they will pull the whole block up. You need to tune at least 3 times through before locking down and fine tuning.

If it ends up that when all the strings are perfectly in tune, but your block is raised at an odd angle, you'll need to do some setting up. You'll have to loosen the strings, open up the back plate, tighten the screws A LITTLE BIT. Then do the whole process of tuning again. Keep doing this till you get it to the angle you want. Extremely tedious process, but once everything is done the floyd rose is a dream.

And if you think that's tedious wait till you figure out how you have to adjust your intonation. :D
 
Actually you don't need to open the backplate to reach the screws, there's the cutouts in the plate.
 
Aiyah.. talk so much for what? :P Bring to me!

And yeah, when you try doing intonation.... WOAH. That takes the cake... unless you've been doing it for a long time, which would speed things up. :P
 
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