A SHow OF Hands.. Hey Soft IN Here!!!

[khai_stereotype]

hey soft can u like organise gigs? so all the softies can show their appreciation of music to other softies to...?? wad ya say?

hey guys lets have a show of hands???

WHo's with me?? :smt072

 

[mikemann]

My last understanding from Mr soft, is that his agenda is elsewhere. But he is a strong supporter of other gigs, taking pics and all.

So the part about Soft organising gigs, I think it's best that you yourself can stand up and organise the gig, and ask Mr Soft to help endorse your gig. (ie. Soft is also part of your gig too).

Have I help you answer the question James?? :wink:

 

[soft]

artyman: thanks mike. ya khai_stereotype, we have discussed this before. as it is now, there are alot of gigs going on. just check out the Calendar or the Gigs forum .

SOFT can organise a gig pretty easy. Just get all the SOFTies together and we will be able to play from Monday to Sunday, non-stop. The problem is the funding. Sound system, musical instruments, stage, venue and operational cost can be anything from $500 to $1500 per day.

I would like to use those money, if any, to do something that others are not doing. Something that is not available, can be re-use (not for just 1 day), have a bigger reach and help the music industry directly.

My honest opinion, having too many gigs actually destroy the music industry. Think about it.

 

[HeartRockSingapore]

I do not totally agree with Mr SOFT that too many gigs destroy the industry. We should have more gigs that serves purposes more than just for the sake of gigging. Charity gigs are good, if the money goes to charity and not to pay for the equipment (eqpt must be sponsored). Gigs that encourage untested bands are good because it provides platform for exposure and free for audience (like HeartRock). Gigs like Extreme Metal is good cos it raises the profile of a specific genre, and has a cause to champion.

Other than that, I think James is right.

Let me ask a very provocative question to softies...

If you are not one of the bands that performed at Rockin Resolution on 2nd January 2005, were you there watch the bands performing?

If SOFT is to organize a gig and you are not given the opportunity to perform because of practical reasons, will you and your fellow band mates, and your friends still come down and watch the gig?

 

[Grain]

weee

Well actuali, its always ok to have lotsa gigs here n there. As long as the organisers Knoe who to pick to perform for the very gig. But most of the time that pisses me are organisers who just do Gigs for the sake of doing it. Where are the actual qualities of it? The projection as performers and musicians, where are all those things?? The VIBES... there arent any.

 

[soft]

"too many gigs actually destroy the music industry"

think about it this way, I decide to start a stall in a new food centre. Put in the dollars and got a fantastic menu that is sure to attract customers. On the opening day, all the other 99 stalls were run by owners who

1. just learnt cooking
2. do not cook what the customers want
3. is looking for another job
4. using microwave oven

Should I be happy? Because chances are the customers will choose my stall instead of theirs. He...eehh...heee.... SO I THOUGHT!

After 1 month, people who gave the other 99 stores a try will have a bad impression. They will not return to the food centre. I have to close my stall.

 

[mikemann]

I am guessing on mr heartrock's question as meaning in a more direct sense:

The local musicians are basically not mature enough as a community, are they supporting fellow musicians OR their own agenda on a 30 minutes fame. If they are just fueled by their own wants, then the local community have no room for progress. Thus why have gigs on such baseless grounds....

Pardon me for the coffeeshop talk. :smt109

 

[Grain]

j

"too many gigs actually destroy the music industry"

As a matter of fact James, i strongly agree with u. wat most organisers nowadays are lacking is the quality to produce good things. Most of em just think for themselves. The ALTER EGO i suppose. hehehheh

 

[Grain]

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are they supporting fellow musicians OR their own agenda on a 30 minutes fame.

Even 5 mins wil make a good impression if we use it wisely.

 

[mikemann]

Actually as I run a jamming studio, I also supply equipment for small gigs and functions. I also always have customers and people who know who I am, ask me why don't I organise gigs as well. Since I already have the equipments and gigs could give my business more exposure.

Ok, as a professional stand point, if I were to organise a gig, my main goal is to make money out of it, cuz thats my business in the first place. So why do I not????

Simple, from a business standpoint view, I do not see the chance of making money based on current situation to do gigs as good. (you should ask the establish players the same question, they do tons of rentals a year, hint...hint..you know who) So, until the opportunity of such arises, there is where I shall emerge from, dun know when.

Or maybe when I decide to quit the business or celebrate something, maybe could have a bash at my own expense.

 

[mikemann]

Re: f

are they supporting fellow musicians OR their own agenda on a 30 minutes fame.

Even 5 mins wil make a good impression if we use it wisely.

Haha.......then the ultimate question would be "Show me the money, and I'll show you the honey" .......hahaha :lol:

Meaning: Then the performers should foot the bill (rental & venue) of the gig, based on the fact it's their own wants.....heehee :lol:

 

[Grain]

d

well actuali, its not the performers who should foot the bill. Its the organisers. Like i said earlier, Most organisers today onli do gigs for the sake of having n doing gig. Quality no matter how small = ZERO
cant blame u as a studio owner cos u still hv to earn.
but The organisers, i realise sum of em dont even knoe a single shit bout doing gigs n still insist on having one. let alone knowing bout the basic Tecnical expect of it.

 

[duskalways]

"too many gigs actually destroy the music industry"...
After 1 month, people who gave the other 99 stores a try will have a bad impression. They will not return to the food centre. I have to close my stall.

my first few encounters and impressions were, "gosh, i hope not many people think this is how the music standard in singapore is."

i find it disconcerting that some bands do not realise they are "beating the hell" out of their instruments, almost competing with each other to get their own sounds heard. i wonder if the band members themselves find it hard to tell another of their own, that their playing needs to be balanced?
yes, the bad acts do put one off watching the others.

 

[HeartRockSingapore]

Rockin Resolution can be considered a SOFT initiated gig and organized by fellow softies. It was excellent organization work, the moral was high, and I was absolutely impressed with it that I am prepared to give it another go, given the resources. That was a good gig as far as I am concern, and I have no second opinion except to say that everyone of them there was just good.

Do I get a show of hands to my earlier questions??

 

[blackductape]

Re:

wat most organisers nowadays are lacking is the quality to produce good things.

yeah. its more of the quantity than the quality. and somemore, whenever there's a gig(*some gigs), there will always be almost the same bands over and over again cause organiser's think by using those bands, the crowd will come. overtime, it get boring seeing the same faces on stage.

*edited

 

[khai_stereotype]

hj

but i mean... you can try to find sponsors...

lets make it this way.. SOFT collects 10 bucks from each softies at a GATHERING... den buy all the needed equipments..?? isnt that more saving... it only cost alot at one time... other than that we only need to paid for electricity...

and btw SOFT how's THE GATHERING?? at pasir ris or east coast??

ANd lastly... i can help find sponsors...

we'' tell them that this gig is for the unfortunate children of singapore who don't have mum and dad... or for the tsunami victims... then SOFT will be regarded by the government and who knows we can be sponsored and backed by the government... try to think about it

 

[soft]

khai_stereotype, would you be interested to champion The Gathering?

 

[gordonzz]

Re: hj

erm.. i think u need to be registered to goverment or sth to start a charity or what? dono leh..

 

[duskalways]

Re: hj

i think so too, normally a society who gets funding from the government or what ever bodies, must first raise a certain sum themselves, before they can get the fundings.

 

[gordonzz]

Yup..and i dont see any reason why soft should be funded by goverment? no offence though..