oh apple took another leap forward doubling 8 processing power chips in a MAC! imagine countless numbers of plug ins being used. : )
look on the apple website
www.apple.com.sg
look on the apple website
www.apple.com.sg
8 cores mac!
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the price quote is not there yet but if you click on the mac pro section they are talking about the products now. just go to store and click on mac pro the specs are there : )
well there were saying about logic 8 appearing after the introduction of the new mac . I JUST BROUGHT MAC AND LOGIC. ahhhsh!
well there were saying about logic 8 appearing after the introduction of the new mac . I JUST BROUGHT MAC AND LOGIC. ahhhsh!
teraslasch
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wads the point of having 8 when u don even fully utilize 2 :lol: . moreover, 8 is only gonna give u moer fkin problems that is out of this world.
oh yea cheez look up the www.apple.com the price for the US one is ready apperntly the set of 8 cores 3.0 ,1 gb, 250 HD cost 3999 USD so about 7-8K sgd? well 8 cores can give alot power ya know, its like getting a studio kinda MUSE RECEPTOR.
hmmms for now i run logic, i can load about 2 concuvlative reverbs, and maybe 6 other mastering plug ins, along with maybe say 18 logic VSTI still without lag i never tried maxing it up yet. but if 4 cores can do that, 8 cores should be able to double it eh?
thats a great great improvemnet, you can try storing all your samples library or plug ins in a MAC. also not forgetting logic support distrubuted audio processing, i bet its gonna be a major change in how pple going to work on logic : )
cheez are you wanting to crossgrade now?!!! come over come over : )
hmmms for now i run logic, i can load about 2 concuvlative reverbs, and maybe 6 other mastering plug ins, along with maybe say 18 logic VSTI still without lag i never tried maxing it up yet. but if 4 cores can do that, 8 cores should be able to double it eh?
thats a great great improvemnet, you can try storing all your samples library or plug ins in a MAC. also not forgetting logic support distrubuted audio processing, i bet its gonna be a major change in how pple going to work on logic : )
cheez are you wanting to crossgrade now?!!! come over come over : )
no i can use 4 cores now actually. you just got to select which track you want on which core.
i am not really sure but i am sure you would be able to utilize all of it. if not the technology will be so wasted .
plus i am sure the 8 cores work with logic audio distruibution. : ) not really sure about it but i am sure alot will come if the computer paves the first way first.
i mean if 8 core werent brought up den no software will create their softwares to use 8 core right? : )
i am not really sure but i am sure you would be able to utilize all of it. if not the technology will be so wasted .
plus i am sure the 8 cores work with logic audio distruibution. : ) not really sure about it but i am sure alot will come if the computer paves the first way first.
i mean if 8 core werent brought up den no software will create their softwares to use 8 core right? : )
Cheez
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Zenguan, no lah. I cannot crossgrade. Gigastudio only runs on PC. Even if I switch to Kontakt which is Mac compatible, samplers bottleneck is never the CPU. My 2.8GHz P4 is fast enough. The bottleneck is the hard-drive which streams samples. So having more CPUs doesn't mean getting more samples, although having more HDs will help. I thknk CPU will start to help once we have maybe 4 HD and above to process all those information coming in.
But 8 core will definifely make a lot of difference in DAW applications. Good to hear this. By the way, I mentioned the software DVZ in another thread. It is a revolutionary software that actually splits a section in an orchestra depending on how many notes you play. Take violins section for example - you play one note and it will play 16 strings; play two notes and each note will be 8 strings, play 4 notes and each note will be 4 strings. It's amazing technology and it does this automatically and so it makes sequecning more realistic.
Anyway, the point of me mentioning this is this - news have leaked out re: the cost of it. It is about $10,000 USD for the whole thing which includes 5 PCs. It actually takes 5 PCs to run it! And the library is not huge like VSL - it is only 8GB. An 8 core Mac should help reduce that.
But 8 core will definifely make a lot of difference in DAW applications. Good to hear this. By the way, I mentioned the software DVZ in another thread. It is a revolutionary software that actually splits a section in an orchestra depending on how many notes you play. Take violins section for example - you play one note and it will play 16 strings; play two notes and each note will be 8 strings, play 4 notes and each note will be 4 strings. It's amazing technology and it does this automatically and so it makes sequecning more realistic.
Anyway, the point of me mentioning this is this - news have leaked out re: the cost of it. It is about $10,000 USD for the whole thing which includes 5 PCs. It actually takes 5 PCs to run it! And the library is not huge like VSL - it is only 8GB. An 8 core Mac should help reduce that.
with such technology, these are indeed going to give many sessionist a run for their money.
hmmms although they always says analogue always sounds warmer, it isnt far before digital would be make to sound warm too.
oh cheez i was thinking you might want to try on the newer logic thats why ask you to crossgrade hahas.
i believe many of us would like to have the best equiments and best gear in the world to allow ourself to see how much our creativity can bring us. ever wondered if you got the best equiment and gear will you be up against the other records out there?
but i also believe, if given such a chance and you realise your creativity wouldnt bring you far enough will you be scare that you have choosen such a route? what i mean is song writing or arrangments.
the best always make use of what they have, and how they use these tools to bring up the best creativity they cvan produce.
well i guess i am talking no sense here, but oh well MAC producing the 8 cores is indeed going to change the way pple working on their DAW. : ) lets wait and see/
hmmms although they always says analogue always sounds warmer, it isnt far before digital would be make to sound warm too.
oh cheez i was thinking you might want to try on the newer logic thats why ask you to crossgrade hahas.
i believe many of us would like to have the best equiments and best gear in the world to allow ourself to see how much our creativity can bring us. ever wondered if you got the best equiment and gear will you be up against the other records out there?
but i also believe, if given such a chance and you realise your creativity wouldnt bring you far enough will you be scare that you have choosen such a route? what i mean is song writing or arrangments.
the best always make use of what they have, and how they use these tools to bring up the best creativity they cvan produce.
well i guess i am talking no sense here, but oh well MAC producing the 8 cores is indeed going to change the way pple working on their DAW. : ) lets wait and see/
I'm working in an official apple distributor, word from apple is that the 8 core mac is built to order.
It will take 3 weeks from order to delivery.
Its a workstation and not really meant for end consumer PC usage.
Run CPU intensive programs, for example the adobe CS3 suites,
Run Photoshop, illustrator, dreamweaver, indesign, flash all at one go, no problems.
You may ask why run all at one go? Because the workflow solutions in CS3 makes it possible to move from PS to illustrator to dreamweaver in a few clicks.
So the possibilities are out there as to what the 8 core can do.
Its not for the masses, but for people needing processing power, this is a good shot.
It will take 3 weeks from order to delivery.
Its a workstation and not really meant for end consumer PC usage.
Run CPU intensive programs, for example the adobe CS3 suites,
Run Photoshop, illustrator, dreamweaver, indesign, flash all at one go, no problems.
You may ask why run all at one go? Because the workflow solutions in CS3 makes it possible to move from PS to illustrator to dreamweaver in a few clicks.
So the possibilities are out there as to what the 8 core can do.
Its not for the masses, but for people needing processing power, this is a good shot.
Cheez
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With that price, it might be more feasible to get a few machines running side-by-side rather than one machine with 8 cores. For DAW applications, we can still link different machines with LAN, so running concurrent VST on one machine is not necessary if the price is out of this world. VST can be linked from different machines via gigabit LAN creating a VST farm.
Yup, but as with everything, the end user will have to find one that fits their purpose.
Some will prefer 1 unit due to space constraints, others wouldn't mind multiple machines.
People who are using near full spec mac pros may not be using DAW applications.
But think about the video and graphics rendering capabilities.
Some will prefer 1 unit due to space constraints, others wouldn't mind multiple machines.
People who are using near full spec mac pros may not be using DAW applications.
But think about the video and graphics rendering capabilities.
gutturalpiss
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multi-threading has yet to mature to the level of using 8 cores simultaneously..however the application itself can be told to use those cores, but one has to properly align the respective tasks to handle their cores. If the application isn't multi-threaded to start out with, or limited to 2 cores only, the result will not be that good if it were 8-core native (2 x proccesors, with 4 x cores each). AMD will also be coming out with their own 8-core arch soon.
Scientific and Programming industries have been using multi-processing for a long time. Mid-range workstations and mainstream machines only got into the game late, and it will take time. For video, if you look at SGI, their older machines had upto 4 MIPS processors, at a time when multi-processing was unheard of.
Now the technology lets more than one core fit inside one processor die, thus it will be cheaper than 2 processors (but it will not provide equivalent speeds in terms of clock-cycle, MHz/GHz). Also, coding software to intelligently take advantage of those cores is harder than telling it to take advantage of 2 physical processors, and that's why we're only progressing at 2 cores for the time being. If you think of Maya, 3DSM, Blender, they are capable of handling multiple processors, but limited when it comes to cores (although they have intelligent code to sort out more than 4 cores with 2-4 processors and will probably work, but not with full potential). For audio applications, same thing applies.
If you want to get this MAC, you are future-proof, but you will have a few barriers with software starting this early. For mainstream workstations like this, you have choice for upto 2 processor slots. So quad-core processor x 2 = 8 core. So why not just get a single quad-core?
Scientific and Programming industries have been using multi-processing for a long time. Mid-range workstations and mainstream machines only got into the game late, and it will take time. For video, if you look at SGI, their older machines had upto 4 MIPS processors, at a time when multi-processing was unheard of.
Now the technology lets more than one core fit inside one processor die, thus it will be cheaper than 2 processors (but it will not provide equivalent speeds in terms of clock-cycle, MHz/GHz). Also, coding software to intelligently take advantage of those cores is harder than telling it to take advantage of 2 physical processors, and that's why we're only progressing at 2 cores for the time being. If you think of Maya, 3DSM, Blender, they are capable of handling multiple processors, but limited when it comes to cores (although they have intelligent code to sort out more than 4 cores with 2-4 processors and will probably work, but not with full potential). For audio applications, same thing applies.
If you want to get this MAC, you are future-proof, but you will have a few barriers with software starting this early. For mainstream workstations like this, you have choice for upto 2 processor slots. So quad-core processor x 2 = 8 core. So why not just get a single quad-core?
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