Yamaha RBX765A

tim_1002 said:
according to the website it's an all ash body on the premium ones. where did you hear it was an ash cap?

maybe to you there's a marginal difference but there's a difference none the less. whether it's that big an issue is up to individual preferrence. for me i've never tried a basswood bass that i've truly felt sounded clear to me. it could be the electronics or build but that is my experience dealing with basswood bodies.

simple .. go evilbay and checkout their G&L tribute auctions. appears that the G&L L-2000 tributes have a pure solid ash body only for the L-2000 in natural gloss / amber.

for the blueburst, cherryburst and sunburst , appears to be an ash cap. the only way to discern this would be to look both at the front and back of the bass. the front should be able to see the ash grains as well as the back. if the back is a solid coated black back, should be a ash cap over a tilia/basswood body

have been digging up both talkbass and dudepit where i first saw that but cant seem to find that.
 
This from the G&L website.

All Plus versions of Tribute models are discontinued. Plus versions have Basswood bodies and upgraded pickuards where applicable.

I suppose that would be the basswood burst models you were talking about.

All that's left is:
Standard version which is basswood with black, blue violet metallic and candy apple red
Premium which is mahogany or ash. colors: amber, blueburst, cherryburst, natural gloss, tobacco sunburst, trans red

If G&L really use ash caps on the supposed premium versions, i'm sure there would be a lawsuit for misrepresentation by now and the tributes won't be so highly rated by the online bass forum boards.

P/s: to the author of the thread, sorry for hijacking your thread
 
i gotta agree with ken that the wood makes a whole lot of different ... i can tell the different between a alder body and a swamp ash body bass guitar ..

the alder ones are usually warm and have a tighter sound to it .. the swamp ash tones are usually more open and resonant .. but sometimes can be to a disadvantage when you have bad acoustics around ..

from the warmoth site ..

heavier woods tend to tighten up the sound and get close to those kind of tones you are looking for .. woods like ash .. alder .. korina (white) .. koa .. rosewood .. mahogany ..

yeah .. lighter woods may be the solution for back aches but they don't work too well with humbucking pickups as the tone may get muddy and stuff .. should go read when you guys have the time ..

www.warmoth.com
 
BUT, it really depends on the pickups dosent it ? when its plugged into an amp, how much of the sound is actually influenced by body wood and how many % of it is actually influenced by other factors such as the bassist, the amp and the pickup. when played unplugged , i do believe in a major tonal difference but once plugged in , in the case of G&Ls, they are known to be pretty consistent irregardless of body material or so i gather what i have read from dudepit.

i m not trying to say that body wood dosent influence tone. i personally feel that whilst body wood is a major component of tone, it is not the absolute determinant of tone. i think pickups , in the case of electric instruments per se the electric guitar and bass have a much bigger part to play. pickups are like lungs in electric instruments, for instance, throw a darkstar MM pickup into a OLP mm3 and would it sound just as good if not better than a MM stingray 5 ? throw a J-retro preamp and SD basslines pickups into a fender and would it sound better ? most defintely. retain pickups but change the body material ? thats not unheard of but its pretty rarely done.

its good to note that people who have actually TRIED both the basswood tribute and the swamp ash tribute have noted that there is practically little difference.

@tim1002

well , the G&L website dosent say its a SOLID SWAMP ASH BODY does it ? technically this dosent mean its NOT a swamp ash cap over a tilia body. its easy to dig up specs from manufacturer's webbies but its more practical to go to forums for the real deal people who have actually know the product well enough.

plus to have you know , G&L discontinued the plus line for quite some time. they found that it was neither here nor there.

to prove my point .. check out these couple of pictures shown over on evilbay.

heres the evilbay link :

http://cgi.ebay.com/A-G-L-L2500-Pre...393851407QQcategoryZ38079QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

now observe these pictures




L2500%20Nat%20Mp.jpg


a tribute L-2500 natural gloss/ amber, observe the ASH grain at the back.

now observe this image from the same seller, a BLUEBURST/CHERRYBURST L-2000 tribute bass.

the only way to tell if its a full solid swamp ash grain body would be to check both the front and the back of the bass for the ash grain. just look at the black back of this G&L L-2000 tribute BLUEBURST and its pretty Obvious that its a basswood(tilia) core beneath a swamp ash top

Trib%20L2000%20BLB%20MP.jpg


for comparison sake, here's an all authentic american G&L L-2000 with a FULL SWAMP ASH BODY. the grain is clearly visible from here.

L2000%20BluBur%20RW.jpg


do note. G&L DOES NOT offer the tribute series L-2000 premium edition with a swamp ash body and a rosewood fretboard. this is defintely and assuredly , a L-2000 USA made

well if anybody here remains unconvinced i can dig up a picture of an L-2000 tribute cherryburst which i saw recently with a similar basswood cap body with the apparent same approach to "swamp ash bodies" that G&L has.
 
If that wasn't the longest posts in soft history, i don't think i could finish the actual longest one in a day.

a very insightful, informative and enlightening post stars. give yourself a pat on the back for the amount of pictorial evidence you presented. unfortunately the second g&l doesn't look like it had an ash top to begin with.

anyway stars, i could type out a similar (hopefully more concise) post rebutting your blemished case but this is not my thread. as it is, i am already sorry for hijacking this thread from the author. if you feel the need to argue/debate whatever it is we're talking about, we could start a new thread on this or arrange for a bass meetup so we can all talk about the interesting subject of body tone woods. i'm sure the guys with more basses and experience will have more input on this.

as this stands, i don't buy any of your arguements. i don't think anyone else who reads your post will buy it either. that is my opinion which i do believe i have a right to have.

have a nice day stars.
 
lol... lac lah brotha .. why u so hurt ?

@threadstarter, sorry for hijacking the thread.

@tim_1002

"blemished information" i think not. please dont take offence,i always do my research and try out to the best of what's avaliable to me. besides , i tried out the basswood one at yamaha and comparing it to the online sound sample of ASAT basses ( same pickups as L-2000 except different body design) plus other samples of different body material. i honestly couldnt tell the difference either. would be more than happy to dig it up for anyone who's interested

i think the term "informed consumer" is more appropriate. besides, no two basses are the same. even similar models may have inconsistencies between them.

besides , afterall , this thread was started by someone with an interest in a replacement bass for the RBX 764 in question and i am merely facilitating in his choice of bass by providing facts.
 
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