Yamaha MO

[bongman]

Yamaha MO
http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/mo/index.html

Targeted to semi-professional musicians and home/project studio owners as well as songwriters and performers, the MO provides a full set of authentic sounds and comprehensive music-making features—including an emphasis on contemporary styles and voices. Highly portable and compact, the MO also serves as an ideal keyboard for live performance situations. Two models are available: the 61-key MO6 and the full 88-key MO8

 

[iansoh]

hmm.. just heard the demo songs. sounds don't seem that good leh.. a bit thin in fact.

 

[iansoh]

i just noticed something.

MOTIF : MO
TRITON : TR

direct declaration of war? who's copying who

 

[Cheez]

Hmm. Interesting development. Does anybody know that "initial touch" means no after touch? (from their website)

Looks like everybody is trying to cut down on their higher-end models to target at the general population who does not want to pay that much. More of a marketing thing. Maybe everybody is running of out new ideas and technology.

 

[Indigo_blues]

i've never really quite figured out what all those 'touch' things mean... whats aftertouch?? Initial touch?? Can someone enlighten?

 

[bongman]

hmm.. just heard the demo songs. sounds don't seem that good leh.. a bit thin in fact.

as mentioned aim for semi-pro musicians,
so may not sound as good as the Motif ES.

probably the soft-synth markets have taken
a pie of the hardware manufacturers, so these
mid-range models are coming out.

I spoken to a salesman in musicplaza and he
mentioned the current hardware don't sell as
well as it used to be in 2000-2002. The original
Motif sold like hot cakes and groovebox RS7000
sold well. Now the piano sales has to cover the cost
for the combo shop. Anyway, for all to know - Yamaha
piano centre at musicplaza sells piano like HOTCAKES !!!
Verbal proof from a salesman there.

Sinamex salesman told me the same story as well
but luckily he said they still have M-audio and Taylor
guitars to maintain the sales figures.

 

[bongman]

i just noticed something.

MOTIF : MO
TRITON : TR

direct declaration of war? who's copying who

next in line - Roland FA ???

 

[bongman]

i've never really quite figured out what all those 'touch' things mean... whats aftertouch?? Initial touch?? Can someone enlighten?

aftertouch - the keys respond to your touch, sounds loud if given a hard
touch and soft if played lightly. this is to give a more natural
human touch.

Casiotone or some Yamaha PSR keyboards have no such
feature, so playing sounds dead and robotic.

velocity senstive - keys respond to touch for modulation...

did I post the right info?
or both above the same?

READ THIS:
http://www.backstage-lounge.com/story.asp?sectioncode=65&storycode=5586&featurecode=23

 

[lowjk]

i just noticed something.

MOTIF : MO
TRITON : TR

direct declaration of war? who's copying who

next in line - Roland FA ???

Actually, Roland started the latest round of low end workstation/synth with their Fantom Xa, Juno-D, RS-70.

 

[lowjk]

Aftertouch - the keys respond to your touch, sounds loud if given a hard
touch and soft if played lightly. this is to give a more natural
human touch.

Casiotone or some Yamaha PSR keyboards have no such
feature, so playing sounds dead and robotic.

velocity senstive - keys respond to touch for modulation...

Not quite.

Velocity sensitivity - responds to how hard/fast you strike the key.
Usually controls the volume of the note but can also be mapped to control other aspects of sounds eg filter amount (strike harder -> sounds brighter or vice versa)

Aftertouch - at end of the key press, how hard you press down on the key determines the amount of aftertouch is applied. Usually monophonic - ie the reading is averaged out and only 1 vaule is applied throught all the notes. Rarely, it is polyphonic with each key that is pressed having a different level of aftertouch. (needless to say, this involves lots of midi data and can really affect timing).

Usually mapped to modulation. So if you press a key harder after the initial key press, you can apply vibrato to the note. But nowadays, it can also be mapped to other parameters eg volume.

 

[iansoh]

getting back to the topic of the yamaha MO, the soundset is supposedly off the motif ES. stands at 175MB PCM too. why would they want to make the MO sound poorer compared to the motif ES?

anyway, bongman, any release dates or info on when this board will be reaching our shores?

 

[Indigo_blues]

think the MO is to cover the lower end sequencer market.. the motif takes care of the 'pro' end. Yamaha's other keyboards don't really have built in sequencers if i'm not wrong except for their psr range which is decidedly 'home'. :lol:

 

[bongman]

Aftertouch - the keys respond to your touch, sounds loud if given a hard
touch and soft if played lightly. this is to give a more natural
human touch.

Casiotone or some Yamaha PSR keyboards have no such
feature, so playing sounds dead and robotic.

velocity senstive - keys respond to touch for modulation...

Not quite.

Velocity sensitivity - responds to how hard/fast you strike the key.
Usually controls the volume of the note but can also be mapped to control other aspects of sounds eg filter amount (strike harder -> sounds brighter or vice versa)

Aftertouch - at end of the key press, how hard you press down on the key determines the amount of aftertouch is applied. Usually monophonic - ie the reading is averaged out and only 1 vaule is applied throught all the notes. Rarely, it is polyphonic with each key that is pressed having a different level of aftertouch. (needless to say, this involves lots of midi data and can really affect timing).

Usually mapped to modulation. So if you press a key harder after the initial key press, you can apply vibrato to the note. But nowadays, it can also be mapped to other parameters eg volume.

Hi ALL,
errr... paiseh, I'm not always correct
pls do your homework... errr

 

[Indigo_blues]

Aftertouch - the keys respond to your touch, sounds loud if given a hard
touch and soft if played lightly. this is to give a more natural
human touch.

Casiotone or some Yamaha PSR keyboards have no such
feature, so playing sounds dead and robotic.

velocity senstive - keys respond to touch for modulation...

Not quite.

Velocity sensitivity - responds to how hard/fast you strike the key.
Usually controls the volume of the note but can also be mapped to control other aspects of sounds eg filter amount (strike harder -> sounds brighter or vice versa)

Aftertouch - at end of the key press, how hard you press down on the key determines the amount of aftertouch is applied. Usually monophonic - ie the reading is averaged out and only 1 vaule is applied throught all the notes. Rarely, it is polyphonic with each key that is pressed having a different level of aftertouch. (needless to say, this involves lots of midi data and can really affect timing).

Usually mapped to modulation. So if you press a key harder after the initial key press, you can apply vibrato to the note. But nowadays, it can also be mapped to other parameters eg volume.

thanks for the explanation.. :wink: So whats initial touch???? is there such a thing?

 

[lowjk]

Based on what I've read on Yamaha's site;
It's Yamaha's term for velocity sensitivity.

Do note that they've cut corners on the MO series - there is NO aftertouch, 64 notes poly & no slots for expansion cards.

Motif ES has the aftertouch, 128 notes poly & slots for expansion cards.

Maybe that's why the Motif sounds better - can layer more sounds & more expressive because of aftertouch.

 

[SilverBeast]

bongman wrote:
iansoh wrote:
i just noticed something.

MOTIF : MO
TRITON : TR

direct declaration of war? who's copying who


next in line - Roland FA ???

Alesis = FU ???

 

[KMA]

bongman wrote:
iansoh wrote:
i just noticed something.

MOTIF : MO
TRITON : TR

direct declaration of war? who's copying who


next in line - Roland FA ???

Hi yes, it is Fantom Xa

http://www.roland.com/products/en/Fantom-Xa/

 

[SilverBeast]

Errr...Just in case there would be more "correction" going on in this thread, let me sum up a joke:

Iansoh noticed Yamaha : MO (taken from Motif) and Korg : TR (taken from Triton). Bongman started the joke about Roland : FA (taken from Fantom) and I added Alesis : FU (taken from Fusion)

So, we are all amusing ourselves!!!