SOLD WTS Vintage Orville by Gibson Les Paul CUSTOM Black Beauty

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Trying to thin my collection to mainly my semi-hollows / archtops so my beautiful black beauty has to go.

VINTAGE 1990 Orville by Gibson Les Paul CUSTOM black beauty - Price $1500 firm incl hardcase

Orville by Gibson guitars are extremely rare. The guitars are of premium standard assembled in Japan but all parts hardware pickups etc are from USA. I've had 2 OBG les pauls and they both sound better than the generic Gibson lp at half the price.

This guitar is a real lead player's guitar. Set up recently, a lot of effort was put in to make sure the sound balance was perfect for leads. The mids and highs really shine through. You just have to play a simple D chord to hear the difference. If you play a Jimmy Page solo on this it will totally kill. As this is a les Paul custom, it is fully weighted so it's heavy. But it's full unchambered and the sustain is mad.

Action is perfect due to excellent setup, condition is great for a 22 year old guitar as can be seen from the pictures below. The mother of Pearl inlays on the headstock look amazing. Pics below.

Text at 96756752. Thanks

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There are several things that about this guitar that you want to know:

1) Lindy Fralin PAF Pickups (7.8k on the Neck, 8.9k on the Bridge)
2) Each and every of the pots are USA CTS and orange drop capped – I wired them myself.
3) There is a slight paint crack just under the neck
4) Considerable amount fretwear from 1st to 5th fret
5) The tune-o-matic bridge is a generic Epiphone type (with slotted-head bolts)
6) Serial number is 907022 (Terada Factory made)
7) Neck tenon does not extend into the neck pickup cavity
8) If you unscrew the truss rod cover, the headstock inlay will lift up slightly

I know this guitar inside out, and why is that - because I am the previous owner. I had gigged on this guitar before and trust me it plays like butter (slim 60's neck by the way). It is a nitrocellulose finished guitar has its fair share of dings at the back.

It is a players' guitar, not for the fussy buyer. Oh and by the way:

I sold my guitar to this person for $1050, he is now reselling it for $1500.

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-Disappointed Softie
 
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WOW... this is unbelievable.

1. FULL setup undertaken by GOOSE
2. minor finish flaw fully restored, patched, REINFORCED and REPAINTED by GOOSE
3. FULL FRET LEVELLING WORK BY GOOSE to even out the frets and remove string buzz that came with the guitar
4. Lindy Fralin Pickups were great, but were UNBALANCED. Got Goose to tweak it until I was happy with the lead sounds I was getting. Lows were muddy, mids and highs were getting lost, now just perfect.

I spent good money and effort ensuring I got this beautiful guitar to sound the way it should sound, and feel the way it should feel. Fret levelling is not a walk in the park, nor is it a cheap fix, and takes a reputable tech to ensure intonation is restored. It is priced taking into account the money, work and effort I've put into it to ensure it is one of the best sounding Les Pauls around. No profit is being made at the listed price AT ALL.

I'm glad members are protective over the sale of gear, but Hijacking my thread without finding out the facts is ridiculous.
 
honestly, setup costs and all other tweaks which are made does not justify the 'extra price', plus its not like you added upgrades like new hardware or change of pickups which would make sense for you to up your price. Setups, refinishing and fret leveling as such does not make the gear more valuable, it is done for your personal preference. Just because you wanted your gear to be setup in a certain way, does that mean a prospective buyer should pay the extra cost for things which you did for your own preference?

Kudos to bro Slash- for adding more info and revealing the actual sale price!
 
Sorry, I disagree. If the guitar is beat up, fret-life low and the pickups sound muddy, as a buyer I would pay less for it. If I encounter the same guitar with those issues not existing, as a buyer I would pay more. Now please bear in mind 'more' is not a price exceeding market value! Orvilles for sale in the past few months have asking prices in this region, and none of them are Les Paul Customs or Orville by Gibson.

The fact is I'm selling my guitar at a loss and at a great price based on what's on the market and based on its now amazing sound, playability, restored fret-life and condition. I don't understand why a Softie would hijack my thread and insinuate things when I'm not trying to rip anyone off.
 
The guitar is HIS property and even if he were to request for a price of 4000$, he has every right to. No one is forcing anyone to buy the guitar. If you're not happy with the price of something, do move on. I don't believe that SOFT is a Pasar Malam for anyone to haggle over prices.

Just my 2 cents worth. I think $1500 for such a piece is more than worth it. Not many OBG drop by nowadays and yes some of them do play much better than Gibsons. You guys should check out how much OBG's go for on the USA Forums. Yes they can go for about 1.4k USD. Japanese guitars are well reputed there. Strangely the deflation in the local market surprises me honestly.
 
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True, it is the owner's right to decide on whatever price he wants to sell his gear at and it is his every right to add the cost for any modification he has done prior to the sale to the final price but it is wrong however, to assume that it is correct. Let us be clear on something, a setup IS a modification as the original state of the instrument(be it second-hand) was altered from its original state.

Unless the modifications were performed before leaving the factory, there is no proper justification for the costs of said modifications to be added to the sale price, unless it's at the seller's behest. To the seller: You are not obligated to explain your pricing reasons; No one can fault you for sticking to your price, but it is my opinion that your reason for setting the price thus so is downright silly.
 
Okay everyone, I'm removing this guitar from sale because all this thread is doing is getting people to debate over how ethical it is to sell this guitar at the price I've set, when this is simply a forum to buy and sell gear.

I've priced this guitar at a superb price albeit at a different price I've bought it at. When I bought the guitar, fretwear throughout the guitar was so bad it was hardly playable. You couldn't bend a string without it being caught in a wear groove. The pickups which were installed by the previous owner were soldered himself. This caused both pickups to be out of sync in terms of volume, and each pick up to be terribly equalised. The caps and wiring were probably also installed by the previous owner and were not done properly. There was also a finish flaw on the neck.

I sent this guitar to my guitar-tech, Goose (Founder of Goosoniqueworx), who resolved all the issues and problems at substantial cost, to make this Les Paul Custom sound amazing. I wanted to sell this guitar because I play mainly semi-hollows and archtops and don't really use it - it would be so much better loved by someone else.

I price my guitar below market value to be able to sell this guitar and give buyers a good deal. But the original owner who sold me a beautiful guitar in a bad state is not happy that I'm taking into account the money I've spent to fix it and make it actually sound like a Gibson Les Paul Custom. So he makes me look like I'm trying to rip people off even though the asking price surely reflects a good deal. I don't have to explain anything to anyone, but I do so now to defend myself and because I think it's ludicrous I can't put my guitar up for sale at a price I wish to set.

Thanks all for the interest, and to all the lowballers who suddenly flood me with lowball offers LOL. At least there's a funny side to this.
 
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