Windows Vista Home Basic To Premium Upgrade Help

[hecklerkoch]

Hi, guys.

I made the mistake of not doing proper research and bought Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 and found out it will not work on my Dell PC with Windows Vista Home Basic.

Now I am torn between buying Adobe Premiere CS3 for my iMac, and upgrading my Dell PC to Windows Vista Home Premium cos I read on Adobe's website that the minimum requirement for Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 is a Vista Home Premium.

I don't actually do heavy duty video editing, just short video projects.

What do you advise?

I am inclined to save money by just upgrading my Vista but on the other hand, I find video editing on my iMac to be faster (duh!).

Anyway, I can't seem to find any DVD that has 'Windows Anytime Upgrade' anywhere on the label, that came with my Dell PC. How much ah, is the upgrade set for Windows Vista Premium in Sim Lim Square?

Thanks!

ps I did manage to install Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 successfully but it just freezes upon launch. Could this be issue of graphic card incompatibility? Asked in Yahoo! Answers before but nobody replied.

 

[fgl]

Im using a vista at home - I find some of the programs uncompatible and now my home pc a tad bit slow .... I donoo - the xp in the ofice seems more stable & user friendly 2 me ...

 

[vickomaniac]

windows xp ftw man.
vista just looks pretty.

 

[hecklerkoch]

I explored the option of 'downgrading' to XP but I very lazy to move my stuff in HDD to somewhere else, and re-install the programs lah.

Adobe design software is sometimes a bitch to uninstall and reinstall and reactivate what fish.

:???:

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Actually Vista is the worst OS ever made. Hey...it's just my opinion. I used to be using XP for sometimes but one day my laptop motherboard got low level component problem. So, thought of repairing it but the cost is too expensive and I can buy a new laptop with that. So, that's what I did. But now my laptop is almost like a white elephant as too many of my programs are non compatible. Even my midi sequencer doesn't work with it. I used to do recordings with my laptop but with Vista it's almost impossible. For example if I'm recording my guitar, I can hear nothing on the earphones or external speakers. But it's actually being recorded. What a crap. At first I thought it was some hardware issue but later to find out both the hardware and vista has a part with it. Not all new things are better. That goes the same here. All my recordings, editing softwares are no use with my new laptop. But lucky I still have a desktop which I use it more frequent.

 

[blueprintstudios]

windows vista isn't the worst. windows ME (millenium edition) IS!

 

[doggieshaman]

Hi, guys.

I made the mistake of not doing proper research and bought Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 and found out it will not work on my Dell PC with Windows Vista Home Basic.

Now I am torn between buying Adobe Premiere CS3 for my iMac, and upgrading my Dell PC to Windows Vista Home Premium cos I read on Adobe's website that the minimum requirement for Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 is a Vista Home Premium.

I don't actually do heavy duty video editing, just short video projects.

What do you advise?

I am inclined to save money by just upgrading my Vista but on the other hand, I find video editing on my iMac to be faster (duh!).

Anyway, I can't seem to find any DVD that has 'Windows Anytime Upgrade' anywhere on the label, that came with my Dell PC. How much ah, is the upgrade set for Windows Vista Premium in Sim Lim Square?

Thanks!

ps I did manage to install Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 successfully but it just freezes upon launch. Could this be issue of graphic card incompatibility? Asked in Yahoo! Answers before but nobody replied.

Hey yo, my recommendation is, ditch premiere pro, i feel it is not a very competent linear video editor...

final cut pro is pretty okay, i'm using SONY vegas which i feel is really the bigdaddy (to me) cause it has everything, color correction plugins to audio suite plugins...

I think it works on vista home premium, in any case downgrading to XP solves a majority of problems... a laptop equipped for vista should be ample to handle the demands of VEGAS on xp.

yeah, i know you are just doing simple video projects, VEGAS can do that as well and more in case you choose to explore and experiment further in future. AND i think it's retail price is around $150 SGD, much cheaper than premiere pro (i'm talking legal copies of course)

i think your vista is home edition eh? would not have the automatic option to downgrade license to XP... so you're gonna have to scrounge up an XP disc if you opt for my advice.

anything just PM me i'll be happy to help

 

[gutturalpiss]

Ditch the Vista, go with the Leopard. It takes at least a year for vendors to sync their firmware, software AND hardware with Microsoft's new offering(s). It'll take 3 for this one, or they'll pull it off the shelves for yet another offering which is apparently dated to be "coming soon" in 12-month chronological steps.

 

[neuro182]

I agree... Vista is the latest MS OS but it is by far the buggiest and slowest... Why stick to Windows??

Head down the Apple way Try the Leopard OS X 10.5.2

Fast, convenient and user-friendly.

 

[hecklerkoch]

Hahahaha... I am running Mac OSX 10.5.2 on my aluminum iMac man.

I guess the logical thing to do is to just buy Adobe Premiere CS3 for my iMac although Sony Vegas Pro is much cheaper but haiz.. it's not for Mac.

I shall try to find out too, if Sony Vegas Pro is compatible with Vista Home Basic.

Gosh, soooo many things to do!!

Work's a bitch man...

 

[neuro182]

hey man... come to Wheelock Place, EpiCentre (Apple Store) and look for me...

I'm working there... Can get you some good deals...

 

[vickomaniac]

:O
i live at orchard!
can get me good deal on ipod touch?

 

[neuro182]

Tmr got a lot of good deals going on @ the store. Drop by and look for me...

 

[AEnimic]

Digressing abit, can you actually install OS X on a PC?

 

[gutturalpiss]

Yes, but it's illegal. Apple, however, hasn't made a move on piracy of their OS yet. It's like "go on do whatever you like I will still make money". Then there's the recent guy who came up with a Mac clone, exactly with aid of the OSx86 initiative: OSx86 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Furthermore, if you're to do it on your own, it's pretty troublesome. The hard part isn't the installation, it's what doesn't work _after_ installation. You're left with a semi-working machine. Good for education, bad for production.

 

[neuro182]

Are you sure you can install the Leopard OS X on PC??

How come I am working @ Apple Store and I didn't know about it? Where did you get your info from??

 

[gutturalpiss]

Uhmm..I don't understand what you mean by that, but there are retailers of computer stores selling operating system software that don't even know what an OS is.

Like mentioned, it's illegal and a hobbyist/enthusiast's hackplay so it's far less likely to be talked about. You could've come upon the following from the Wiki article: Installation Guides - OSx86

And more: leopard x86 - Google Search

Apple has tight control over their software so in the early days of OSx86 (x86 is the processor family of brands like Intel and AMD, at that time Apple was using one from a different family called PowerPC) it wasn't very usable. Now most tasks are possible, but let's end the details here :mrgreen:

Btw, don't let your workmates or advertisements brainwash you. An Apple computer is also a PC - Personal Computer. The PC-Mac divide was/is a lame gimmick in order for Apple to create/maintain a unique identity. It's just that you're restricted to "certified" hardware only.

 

[neuro182]

interesting... i did not know about it... but do u get to enjoy the full functionality of the Mac OS when you install them on the Windows platform??

anyway, some interesting food for thought... does PC brands like Fujitsu, Samsung and Sony produces the software that drives them?? and does Windows produces hardwares where it can be fitted into it??

So does hardware makers sit down with Microsoft to sync their hardwares to the Windows OS? or does Microsoft sit down with each individual PC brands to discuss how their softwares can be sync-ed with the hardwares??

Once you found the answers to the questions above, you will realized why PC always need you to install drivers and Mac can easily run your hardwares without the drivers (whether they are Samsung, Hitachi, Sony, Maxtor etc.).

Then after which you will realize the PC/Mac divide isn't afterall lame because of the fact that Mac produces their own hardwares to run with their softwares (that explains why Mac products are so relatively expensive yet secure) and they do not have that 114,000 viruses/bugs/whatever-you-call-it that Windows have.

Down to the core, Mac OS has a unix-based interface unlike the GUI Windows OS... If you do realized, the latest Vista is super darn bug-filled because firstly, Microsoft launched the OS even before the hardwares were made compatible for it. Secondly, it is trying too hard to copy the Mac interface.

Definitely, you can install the old Mac OS on ur PC just like how Mac can install Windows OS on their boot camp assistant. Question still lies, does it means it will be less buggy?? I mean I won't want my computer to crash because of those unwanted popups and spywares and viruses. If installing a Mac OS in my PC doesnt help to improve my computer performance or reduces the viruses, then I mean it is a little no point and like what you say, a hobbyist/enthusiast's hackplay.

In short, switch to Leopard 10.5.2 hahahahahahahahaha...

 

[untilted]

interesting... i did not know about it... but do u get to enjoy the full functionality of the Mac OS when you install them on the Windows platform??

anyway, some interesting food for thought... does PC brands like Fujitsu, Samsung and Sony produces the software that drives them?? and does Windows produces hardwares where it can be fitted into it??

So does hardware makers sit down with Microsoft to sync their hardwares to the Windows OS? or does Microsoft sit down with each individual PC brands to discuss how their softwares can be sync-ed with the hardwares??

Once you found the answers to the questions above, you will realized why PC always need you to install drivers and Mac can easily run your hardwares without the drivers (whether they are Samsung, Hitachi, Sony, Maxtor etc.).

Then after which you will realize the PC/Mac divide isn't afterall lame because of the fact that Mac produces their own hardwares to run with their softwares (that explains why Mac products are so relatively expensive yet secure) and they do not have that 114,000 viruses/bugs/whatever-you-call-it that Windows have.

Down to the core, Mac OS has a unix-based interface unlike the GUI Windows OS... If you do realized, the latest Vista is super darn bug-filled because firstly, Microsoft launched the OS even before the hardwares were made compatible for it. Secondly, it is trying too hard to copy the Mac interface.

Definitely, you can install the old Mac OS on ur PC just like how Mac can install Windows OS on their boot camp assistant. Question still lies, does it means it will be less buggy?? I mean I won't want my computer to crash because of those unwanted popups and spywares and viruses. If installing a Mac OS in my PC doesnt help to improve my computer performance or reduces the viruses, then I mean it is a little no point and like what you say, a hobbyist/enthusiast's hackplay.

In short, switch to Leopard 10.5.2 hahahahahahahahaha...

oh no! mac user alert!
spyware and viruses are inevitable to a large user base,no? they aren't exactly prevented by some magical programming code embedded in to the OS.

if mac had as many users as windows users- maybe more people would write viruses and spyware for it. and it is not true that mac os are not 'buggy', or perfect out of the box.

vista sucks. that is true... but it doesn;t make mac that so much more awesome. running bootcamp on mac doesnt mean that it is compatible with everything either, nor can it provide the same performance as a windows pc.

both windows and mac os have their different strengths and weaknesses.

i like macs in general, but i just don;t like their hyped up sales-pitch that breeds these users that tend to become self-righteous and annoying...

in short, if the shoe fits, wear it. if not move along and find something else...

just my 2cents.

 

[gutturalpiss]

Of course not; you don't get full functionality that way. I too, always say that an Apple Mac is a hardware + software experience. If you want to use Mac OS, get a Mac.

No, you're right. It's fact. The tight control is exactly why there's quality. Customers have that as a benefit, and for some it's ruling out the lack of freedom to choose hardware. Nevertheless, your soul is Steve Jobs' property once you submit to an Apple product. There are people who value the freedom more, so a Mac is not the wisest option.

You can't skip vendors all the way. You have to convince them to write firmware and drivers for your platform, or port existing code to yours. That is why there's a lack of native Mac games, or at least the magnitude of choice isn't even close to Windows'. There are companies like id Software that help in this cause by releasing multi-platform games. I've high respect for such developers. Rumour has it that Sierra may follow.

The PC-Mac divide is just marketing, nothing else. Steve Jobs never wanted to do business with x86 manufacturers, because it would be unfitting of the "Mac is not a PC" gimmick; it wouldn't justify their unique identity. Now look at them, completely migrated to Intel. You can multi-boot a variety of OSs, so it's to Apple's advantage that customers are happier due to the result of having this particular freedom. Thus, control doesn't always work. If you speak of copying, it's alright. Mac OS X itself is a collection of a lot of pre-existing open code and ideas. The new dock is an exact replica of Sun's Project Loooking Glass. Furthermore, Safari's WebKit is derived from KHTML, the engine of Konqueror - a free (open-source) web browser. I may be getting off-track here, because these features are more due to code-derivation rather than copying, yeah?

Yes, precisely so. I agree, this method is never encouraged; stay out and..get a real Mac

Untitled: The lack of viruses is not due to userbase. It's due to the inherent _secure_ Unix networking infrastructure. Why do you think servers use Unix and Unix-like platforms? Tried and tested for decades. Anyway, let's not talk about this :mrgreen: You can refer to [FAQ] Mac 101: Answers to common questions - www.hardwarezone.com.sg