Where to test/buy Yamaha HS80M?

[ninx]

Interested in the HS80Ms. Where's a good place to test and get a good deal on them?

 

[blueprintstudios]

err you tried yamaha at plaza sing?

 

[Radius_Vector]

Hung bros at Simlim

 

[audio_fuzz]

Yup. I got mine years ago from Yamaha. But I saw it in Hung Bros too. But I didn't bother to test it for 2 reason. Firstly, both do nto have a proper room for you to test, hence, the sound might not be accurate. Secondly, I'm familar with Yamaha's sound, therefore, I went ahead and get it without testing.

 

[nseals]

Hi...i am using Yamaha NS-10M currently. Would like to get a active speaker, is a Yamaha HS50M a good choice?

Pls advise. Thanks

 

[audio_fuzz]

I'm also a NS-10m user for years back then. But I ditched it for HS-80m as I need more extented frequency response due to the work I'm doing. I'm not very sure about HS-50m, though, but I love my HS-80m. HS80m and HS-50m curve is "slightly" not the same, but curves alone cannot determine the final product. IMO from using my HS-80m, it sounded pretty much like NS-10m (provided you switch on the 2KHz boost at the back) with extended frequency response. (which is the reason why I picked it over others when I ditched my NS-10m.) I still like that NS-10m sound, and my HS-80m do have the fundamental of it. But of course, nothing sounds 100% the same in this world. NS-10m is a closed enclosure design, therefore, it will sound smoother than the HS-series. Whereas, HS-series is a bass-reflex/open-ported design, therefore, you will hear pple saying that it sounds harsher than NS-10m. There are pple who critics that it does not sounds like NS-10m at all. But IMO of using NS-10m for years, I would say if you are really familar with the sound, you will love it. But once again. at the end of the day, it's always the best for you to judge with your own ear coz you are the one who is using it, not these pple. Good luck!

 

[rawn]

I'm also a NS-10m user for years back then. But I ditched it for HS-80m as I need more extented frequency response due to the work I'm doing. I'm not very sure about HS-50m, though, but I love my HS-80m. HS80m and HS-50m curve is "slightly" not the same, but curves alone cannot determine the final product. IMO from using my HS-80m, it sounded pretty much like NS-10m (provided you switch on the 2KHz boost at the back) with extended frequency response. (which is the reason why I picked it over others when I ditched my NS-10m.) I still like that NS-10m sound, and my HS-80m do have the fundamental of it. But of course, nothing sounds 100% the same in this world. NS-10m is a closed enclosure design, therefore, it will sound smoother than the HS-series. Whereas, HS-series is a bass-reflex/open-ported design, therefore, you will hear pple saying that it sounds harsher than NS-10m. There are pple who critics that it does not sounds like NS-10m at all. But IMO of using NS-10m for years, I would say if you are really familar with the sound, you will love it. But once again. at the end of the day, it's always the best for you to judge with your own ear coz you are the one who is using it, not these pple. Good luck!

Why do you think that because its a non-ported design that it sounds smoother?

At which range of frequencies do you think it's "harsher"?

 

[kongwee]

Why do you think that because its a non-ported design that it sounds smoother?

At which range of frequencies do you think it's "harsher"?

Close enclourse give flatter frequency response. But it is more inefficient to drive and limited frequency respone. At bass respond, the cut-off is much stiffer than ported design. Normally bookshelf and limited frequency speaker don't go for close enclourse.

 

[rawn]

That's not true. And what is a "Limited frequency speaker?" All transducers/tweeters and/or High compression drivers have an operable frequency range anyways.

 

[coldestream]

closed-cabinet designs have a much better time-domain performance at the low-end with much gentler bass roll-off but lack the power handling and efficiency of ported monitors.

the NS10m is designed like over 30 years ago, the technology back then probably doesnt allow it to handle power like modern speakers we have now. thus it's absence of bass.

however people still use the NS10m today because of its unique design and accurate time-domain performance of its sound

 

[rawn]

closed-cabinet designs have a much better time-domain performance at the low-end with much gentler bass roll-off but lack the power handling and efficiency of ported monitors.

the NS10m is designed like over 30 years ago, the technology back then probably doesnt allow it to handle power like modern speakers we have now. thus it's absence of bass.

however people still use the NS10m today because of its unique design and accurate time-domain performance of its sound

LOL. Power handling has nothing to do with the enclosure design. A voice coil dictates how much heat a transducer can withstand (via convection cooling or otherwise) which then dictates your Peak Power handling. There are different standards in coming out with peak power handling of a transducer or high-compression driver via different signals - pink noise with variable crest factor. These standards often vary from manufacturer to manufacturer

The "time-domain performance" if you are referring to phase, is dictated by the enclosure design. What is more of a factor here is the passive crossovers that the manufacturer uses to add delay to either the transducer or tweeter, so that the common frequencies between the tweeters and transducers are in phase to compensate for
the displacement between the tweeter and transducer. And this is only ONE of its uses.

Having said that, if your bass ports are done properly, and assuming that your ports are at the back of the speakers, then they should exit not in phase in reference to your forward-firing transducer. this is done to allow the direct reflections to be in phase after the "reflection" if you will.

If you take a look at your manuals, MOST manufacturers should dictate how far you should place your ported speakers away from the wall.

Does ported always mean better "bass"? Not necessarily true and that is what i am trying to convey.

 

[kongwee]

Being selling and talking to manufacturer, I like enclosure design if the woofer is more than 10".

 

[rawn]

Again, its personal preference and the type of usage. If you're mixing down for broadcast, you don't really need a 10" do you? since most TV set speakers are much smaller than that.

Just a couple of thoughts