Want to know more about fender stratocaster, pls help!!!!

JazznBlues

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I'm thinking of buying a Fender stratocaster, preferably fender American standard. I've been wandering in this forum for a few month already and have several questions, Please help me to answer them!!! Thanks a lot!

1. I saw the price for brand new american standard in BGW guitars is 1,600, is this a reasonable price?
2. I heard that the quality of newly made fender american standard is not as good as those made earlier, is this true?
3. Many sellers are selling second hand fender strats in this forum, is it reliable to buy from a seller in this forum?
4. How about MIJ and MIM strats? How do they compare to a american standard?
5. For american made strats, what series is the best choice for the price around 1600? Is it the american standard or the 57' or 62' reissues?

I know that my post is a bit messy, but pls help me to know more abt fender strat, this may help other buyers as well!!!
Hope to hear your reply soon!!!

Thanks a lot and have a nice day!!!
 
1) That's a very reasonable price, I always trust the price that Brendon gives me, it's always good.

2) That depends, some may argue that newer MIA strats have better hardware etc, some may say that older ones have better workmanship etc.

3) Just bring an experienced player with you who knows his/her stuff when dealing, just to make sure you're not buying a fake.

4) MIJ strats are definitely on par with MIA strats, but they follow the vintage strat specs more closely, smaller frets, vintage radius, 21 frets, etc. MIM strats are ok i guess, good enough for people starting out,

5) If you want to go for reissue strats, go for MIJ strats. IMO they are more accurate as compared to MIA strats (as mentioned earlier on). Or you could just go for an american standard. Like I said before, the american standard appeals to more modern players, so that really depends on what kinda stuff you play.
 
Those are pretty good, hub4thailand is a reputable seller, so don't worry about buying from him.

Like I said, the guys at Fender Japan have their own thing going on. Personally, I prefer fender japan stuff, because it's more affordable, but yet a high QC is still maintained.
 
I've a mia 57' reissue, no complains about it, pretty nice piece woodgrains, finish no frets popping out and all...
partially got it for the scn pickups... but i must admist mia's reissue are pretty costly if you're on a budget go for mij i did own a mij standard in the past, i must say mijs are pretty bang for buck
 
Hey dude thanks a lot for the reply!
I heard that those MIM strats are also high in quality isn't it? How is a MIJ 57 strat compared to a 60 anniversary MIM strat? Which one is better?
 
I heard that MIM strats sounds more resembles the MIA ones than the MIJ ones, in quality wise, which one is better? MIJ or MIM?
 
If you wanna buy a MIM my advice for you is to head down to the store and try the MIM, from what i know and hear is that MIMs have inconsistent QC hence there's a fair bit of lemons in the the pile so yeah go and try

and dude you don't have to post every minute for a reply man, just wait
 
I'm considering a MIM and a MIJ strat from this forum haha, that's why! American made ones are quite expensive...
Dude r u good at examining guitars?
 
I'm thinking of buying a Fender stratocaster, preferably fender American standard. I've been wandering in this forum for a few month already and have several questions, Please help me to answer them!!! Thanks a lot!

1. I saw the price for brand new american standard in BGW guitars is 1,600, is this a reasonable price?
2. I heard that the quality of newly made fender american standard is not as good as those made earlier, is this true?
3. Many sellers are selling second hand fender strats in this forum, is it reliable to buy from a seller in this forum?
4. How about MIJ and MIM strats? How do they compare to a american standard?
5. For american made strats, what series is the best choice for the price around 1600? Is it the american standard or the 57' or 62' reissues?

I know that my post is a bit messy, but pls help me to know more abt fender strat, this may help other buyers as well!!!
Hope to hear your reply soon!!!

Thanks a lot and have a nice day!!!

Might as well reply you here since it would most likely help people who have the same questions as you do.

1. Yes, it is a reasonable price. Back in the old days, you could only get one at $2500.

2. QC has always been consistent. I have never been disgusted by a Fender guitar before. If you encounter a lousy one, it probably just needs a good set up.

3. Yes & no. You have to know your stuff before shelling out the cash. Even sellers like myself make mistakes at times. I won't say everyone is perfect. We can't know every single product in full detail. However with regards to Fender, I know my stuff. Unfortunately, I'm not helping anyone sell any Stratocasters at the moment. Can't help you there.

4. Different. Every series is different. When I think MIA MIJ MIM, I think of price range & specs. I'm a very spec conscious person only because I can know what to expect with that certain list alone. There are always exceptions and that is something that online resellers cannot offer compared to a store. In a store, you can be selective. End of the day, when you encounter a good guitar, it will be a good guitar regardless of specs.

5. Question here is, what do you want from a Stratocaster? My guess is that you have probably never had much exposure to this guitar but you are itching to try one. If that is the case, narrow down your search to see what guitars fit within your price range and try them out. There is no "better" guitar out there. Go for something that would make you want to play it. Of course if you are buying online, you can't do that. It's taking a gamble.

However, bear in mind that you won't get a "bad" guitar. It's just that you won't get the "best out of the lot". When I say that, what I mean is that after playing the guitar for 3 months, you'll start asking: "why does this lack a certain something?" or "Tch, this is hard to play". After that you come to the conclusion that: "Oh well, this guitar sucks. Time to sell it away" . Happens to me all the time. Do you guys know that I only own 2 guitars at the moment? Probably not ;). Hard to believe considering the fact that I sell guitars like no one's business. Having a connection with your guitar is tough.

If I were you, I would NOT spend $1600 on my first Stratocaster only because I don't know what I want. However, I'm looking for consistency, something reliable so that I can stick with for the next couple of years.

I would recommend the American Standard but the cheaper alternative is the American Special. No matter how many times I look at it, the American Special is still the better deal. Swap out the pickups (only if you deem necessary) & presto, you have a good guitar.

Are you a seasoned player or a beginner? A seasoned player can get used to any guitar in no time. However if you are a beginner, try to avoid reissues. They are not bad but of course the neck profiles might not be the most comfortable. 57 reissues have a V shaped profile, something I still have trouble appreciating to date. 62 reissue is fine but as a begginer, naturally you would want to have more frets to see if you really need the 22nd fret.

Btw, only MIA Stratocasters have the option of 21/22 frets. It is apparent for some MIJ models but most of them are discontinued anyway.

End of the day, my vote goes to the American Special. If you are on a budget, MIJ 62 reissue. I don't think MIM Fenders are bad in all honesty but if you are looking for generic specs in a Stratocaster (Alder/Ash body), steer towards the MIA and MIJ Stratocasters. Be wary though, some MIJ reissues are made of Basswood. It's not a bad wood, just not vintage correct. That's just me being anal.

Recognise what you need in a guitar to suit your style of playing and narrow down the choices from there.

Feel free to disagree. I do like discussions once in a while. Like I said, I'm only human. I make mistakes too.
 
Hey dude thanks a lot from the bottom of my heart! This is really helpful!
You are right, I never played a real fender stratocaster before in my life, but I am not a beginner haha, but not good also, up to now I can say that I do not know a thing a bout strats. I love strats because I like eric clapton, and I want a guitar that I can play forever until I die! Thanks why I want to go for an American Standard strat. After reading your post, I got inspired. I agree what you have said, however I still want one strat that I can play for a long long time even that I know nothing about strat!

Thanks a lot Sir I can say that to write this chunk cost you time, I really appreciate your reply!
Could you please give me some advices on MIJ strats? I saw one strat here http://www.guitargasing.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=143211341, is this a good guitar for the price? Do you recommend it?

Hope to hear from you soon!
 
link not working, maybe it's just me...

be mindful when comparing strats across tiers & country of origin; the end products of the respective offerings are not really trying to out-perform one another. they are just different in terms of features & production focus. majority of the Japanese Strats are gloss-necked units compared to their American & Mexican counterparts- are gloss finished necks 'better/ worse' than the rest? that's something to think about. frets in the Japanese models are often the vintage make- what's the appeal of these compared to the Am/ Mex models? so at the end of the day, there should be an embrace of the instrument in terms of what you feel is worthy to you.

i own American/ Japanese Strats- great guitars.
 
Hey dude thanks a lot from the bottom of my heart! This is really helpful!
You are right, I never played a real fender stratocaster before in my life, but I am not a beginner haha, but not good also, up to now I can say that I do not know a thing a bout strats. I love strats because I like eric clapton, and I want a guitar that I can play forever until I die! Thanks why I want to go for an American Standard strat. After reading your post, I got inspired. I agree what you have said, however I still want one strat that I can play for a long long time even that I know nothing about strat!

Thanks a lot Sir I can say that to write this chunk cost you time, I really appreciate your reply!
Could you please give me some advices on MIJ strats? I saw one strat here http://www.guitargasing.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=143211341, is this a good guitar for the price? Do you recommend it?

Hope to hear from you soon!

I was just saying try to avoid the 57 reissues but if you are going for the Eric Clapton thing, I can't stop you. Prices to me are subjective because my mindset is as long as the item is cheaper than it's 1st hand price, I'm cool with it. Good price or not just do a comparison.

MIJ Fenders are not easy to tell between the models. Whether it's basswood or not we wouldn't know. However if you open the guitar up, you can see the model stamped onto both the neck heel and body neck pocket. A typical ST-57 is made of basswood while the one that you MIGHT be looking at is a ST-57TX only because he mentioned that it's Texas Specials pickups. However, how to tell whether it's texas specials? good luck to you cos there are no stampings on Fender pickups. Even I cannot tell because there is a difference between the Japanese and the USA texas specials. In any case, Fender pickups are not expensive so you don't have to worry so much.

If you want something to play for a long time, get something that suits you. If you want something versatile, get an American Special. End of the day, I always emphasize on the feel of the instrument cos pickups and electronics can always be changed.

I play with vintage frets these days cos I always go sharp on my jumbo fretted instruments. I'm now in the phase of adjusting my playing. In fact, I'm using a MIJ Fender Jazzmaster now. Selling all my Ibanez guitars just for this purpose. That is my approach towards guitars at the moment. Sometimes a guitar that is hard to play is just begging to be played. It's like a personal challenge.
 
Hey dude thanks a lot for your reply!!!
I am considering getting a second hand one, whether its MIJ or MIA, cos its a lot cheaper. Now really could not find any haha!
 
Thanks a lot!!!
I am considering buying a second hand MIA standard... from this forum, just wanna try my luck haha!!!
The brand new ones are really expensive
 
like bro R69 said, find a few suitable guitars within your budget, try them and decide which you like best.

One thing about buying Stratocasters online is that you have to know which parts or original or not as all of that affects the overall price.
 
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