wad guitar to buy? ($500-$600)

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dreampolice

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hi there, i've been playing the guitar for quite sometime... i wanna upgrade to a mid range guitar..

I'm, looking for one with a very full, "fat" clean tone. I play all sorts of genre , mostly as the lead guitarist. My budget arnd 500-600. I'm pretty much impressed by the les paul for its tone, classyness and its looks, yea.. so i'm thinking of getting its cheaper copies


Should i get an epiphone les paul? or ESP ltd ec 50 or ESP LTD EC 300? or is there any better ones or cheaper one?
 
well, i got me a Samick Artists Edition LP copy some time back. orange sunburst quilt top thinggie with trapezoidal inlays and even a beautiful engraving on the head stock, bindings and all. the sound is superb to me at least even with stock pups. costs abt $480. dunno if they still have it. can check with davis if ya want. i'd say this one was value for money. my .2 cts. cheers
 
Lots of Les Paul copies within that price range. The Suzuki copies are well built and available at both Esden Trading (Sim Lim) and Guitar Workshop (Bras Basah). These are the set neck copies.

For the bolt-ons, they are even cheaper but not necessarily poorer in quality. Brands like Craftsman, Aria ProII, Aria and TGM all carry Les Paul copies and build is comparatively good. What they sometimes lack are good stock pickups and in some cases, reliable tuners.

Of course you can change them, but I'd rather get a better LP copy than spend too much money upgrading a lower end version.

For Epiphone, there are many Les Paul variations to choose from. For your budget (and a bit more), a Les Paul Classic would be an appropriate choice for a lead guitarist. Next in line would be the Standard.

The ESPs are all above your budget.

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Suzuki LPs

Yep. I do. Suzuki LP and Rira PRS. Prices for Suzuki same as SLS.
Feel free to come down and have a look. Have other types of mid-ranges as well.

Adrian
 
dreampolice said:
thx for the replies and offers.

wads the differences between a lp 100, lp standard, lp studio and a lp classic?
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In order of price, from cheapest to most expensive.

LES PAUL-100
Pickups: 2-Open Coil HB's
Neck: Bolt on
Usually made in Indonesia.

LES PAUL STUDIO
Pickups: 2-HB's
Neck: Set
Very similar to the Standard except that it does not have any bindings.
Bindings are those white trimmings that goes round parts of the guitar.

LES PAUL STANDARD
Pickups: 2-HB's
Neck: Set
Very similar to the Studio except that it has bindings on the neck and body.

LES PAUL CLASSIC
Pickups: 2-Open Coil HB's
Neck: Set
Very similar to the Standard except for the different pickups which are usually hotter.

LES PAUL CUSTOM
Pickups: 2-HB's
Neck: Set
Very similar to the Standard expect that it has bindings on the neck, body and headstock and comes in either White, Black or Vintage Sunburst. Gold hardware is standard. Diamond-shaped inlay on the headstock.

Whenever there is a PLUS, it means the guitar has a Flame Maple top, basically flame-pattern wood veneer.
 
LP sound

Personally,

I've tried LP Custom, LP Classic and LP Studio. Not much diff in sound. However, I prefer LP Studio. Just personal preference.

Adrian
 
Hideo said:
what abt sound wise? Just asking to learn more.
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Sound wise, the Standard and Custom are very similar while the Classic has a much hotter and higher output due to the open coil humbuckers. The LP100 is in some ways similar to the Classic, but may be more inferior in terms of the pickups.

The open-coil humbuckers Les Paul are more suitable for a lead guitarist or hard rock and metal music while the normal humbuckers Les Paul are great with rythmn work across most genre of music.

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Sorry, but BF109s comments are a bit silly!. What sounds good to one person doesn't sound good to all!. To say open coils more suitable for lead guitar is rubbish!. Just look at Jimmy page etc who used Stds with covered pickups- Try Gary Moore , Clapton etc etc. All great tone with covered pickups. PRS uses covered pickups- where does it say on the PRS label - sorry to be used for rythymn only!.
Each les paul has a different weight, resonance and sound . This is not only dependant on pickups but string guage, wood ageing etc. So try a few, even two so called identical models sound different.
One last point, if you are on a budget, these are some really nice Canadian made guitars in town . The brand Godin is now being used by many recognized players such as larry Carlton, Ritchie Blackmore etc. prices start around S$650.
 
whoa ! chill people .. diff people got diff opinion of diff guitars ... dun slam another persons opinion just cos u have a diff one ... respect it man ...
 
relax, dun get so agitated. Different people got different opinion. anyway hat does it mean by hotter pickups?
 
hi.. i selling my guitar.. as good as new ar!

black guitar... J&D.. with bag... 5 mths old... 10w laney amplifier included.. selling for $300...
 
Canon said:
Sorry, but BF109s comments are a bit silly!. What sounds good to one person doesn't sound good to all!. To say open coils more suitable for lead guitar is rubbish!. Just look at Jimmy page etc who used Stds with covered pickups- Try Gary Moore , Clapton etc etc. All great tone with covered pickups. PRS uses covered pickups- where does it say on the PRS label - sorry to be used for rythymn only!.
Each les paul has a different weight, resonance and sound . This is not only dependant on pickups but string guage, wood ageing etc. So try a few, even two so called identical models sound different.
One last point, if you are on a budget, these are some really nice Canadian made guitars in town . The brand Godin is now being used by many recognized players such as larry Carlton, Ritchie Blackmore etc. prices start around S$650.
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I was referring to the performance of the stock Epi pickups and not to any custom and branded pickups that the guitar heroes are using. I'm sure those guys use much better pickups (even the covered ones) that are much hotter and with higher output than the low cost stock Epi pickups which you can get a pair second hand for only $50. My opinions are just that, and are not meant to taken as a hard and fast rule, cos' anything goes in creativity.

I am just outlining the simple differences between the Standard and Classic so that a newbie can understand. Of course, strictly speaking, you can do both do lead and rythmn with any type of pickup. But IMHO if one is not good at doing lead and does a lot of strumming, the standard humbuckers or even single coils would be a better option. Unless you do metal, then it doesn't matter too much with the open coils if you're playing loud and distorted. And of course, technique is important too, like palm muting, riifs playing etc.

No guitar manufacturer will say that their guitars are good for only one particular style of playing. They may imply but will not announce it outright. But common sense and music sense will prevail in deciding what works best. Ever try metal with a hollow-body jazz guitar? Some may, but a majority of musicians don't or wouldn't.

In the end, each guitar, whatever pickups it has, has its own character and it is up to each individual to decide what combination works best for the style and genre of music that he or she plays in. There will be preferences, and it will take experience to sort out the right ones.

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