THE FOOTBALL THREAD Vol 2

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By Richard Clarke at the Gelredome, Arnhem
Although the Twente questions had been searching, Arsenal managed to smuggle a vital 2-0 victory back from Arnhem on Wednesday night.
Arsène Wenger's weakened side were on the rack for most of this Champions League third qualification round first leg tie. Steve McClaren, in his first competitive game since England's defeat to Croatia last November, had asked his team to tear into Arsenal from the first whistle and they responded in style.
The visitors were on the back foot for most of the opening period and only really started to look the part when William Gallas turned in Robin van Persie's free-kick in the 63rd minute.
Eight minutes from time, Emmanuel Adebayor added another to give the result a gloss Arsenal's performance did not deserve.
But they do deserve credit for their tenacity determination and professionalism on a night when, for once, Wenger's men struggled to find their rhythm
This was the third time Arsenal have been in the qualifying stages, the third time they have been drawn away first and the third time they have brought a significant lead home.
However this was the third time Wenger's men have been in the qualifying stages, the third time they have been drawn away first and the third time they have won 2-0.
This result has paved the way to the group stages twice before and it should do so again this year.
But this had been by far the toughest test.
Wenger selected the side widely predicted. With nine players absent for one reason or another, he did not have much choice. Aaron Ramsey, just 17, came in for his debut. His 'senior' partner in central midfield was 20-year-old Denilson.
The full list of absentees was Philippe Senderos (hamstring), Kolo Toure (hip), Cesc Fabregas (hamstring), Abou Diaby (thigh), Samir Nasri (knee/thigh), Eduardo (leg), Tomas Rosicky (hamstring), Amaury Bischoff (groin) and Alex Song (Olympics participation). As a result Wenger had to draw on the best of his youngsters. There were two teenagers in the starting line-up and the average age the Arsenal bench was a little over 19 years six months.
Twente had been forced to play this game at Vitesse Arnhem's Gelredome due to redevelopment work at their own ground. The move did nothing to dent the atmosphere before kick-off. The teams walked out to 'You'll never walk alone' and the opening stages were backed by feverish drums and bellowing songs from the Twente fans behind Manuel Almunia's goal.
And the home side seemed determined to match that pace early on.
Twente started like a runaway train as they tore into Arsenal in the first quarter of an hour. They had little to show for it apart from Romano Denneboom's header past the far post. But the Dutch side had shown they were not going to be in awe of their more illustrious opponents during this tie. And the first half would continue in that vein.
In the 18th minute, Luke Wilkshire robbed Theo Walcott in the centre circle and Theo Janssen sent Eljero Elia clear in the left-hand channel. Almunia managed to beat the Dutch Under-21 international to the ball and Arsenal mopped up the danger. But, yet again, the pace and sheer brute force of Twente had stretched the visitors.
By the midway point of the first half, Arsenal had forced a couple of corners but that was about it. They were struggling.
And in the 24th minute, they nearly fell behind. Denneboom ghosted past Denilson on the edge of the area and hastily hacked a shot over the bar. It was the first time Twente had truly prised Arsenal open but the 27-year-old lost his head and, with it, his chance.
The youth of Wenger's central midfield had been a worry before the game and certainly Arsenal were rarely retaining the ball for long. In the 31st minute Ramsey did send a speculative effort way over the bar from 30 yards. It was perhaps the first time Twente keeper Sander Boschker had needed even a flutter of concern.
But in the 36th minute the concern was all Arsenal's. Denneboom nudged Marko Arnautovic clear through the middle. However the striker's first touch was heavy and Almunia made the save. You sensed that might have been a key moment.
The game was starting to open up and Arsenal immediately went up the other end to create two clear-cut chances for an unlikely lead. First Van Persie bodyswerved himself some space on the right of the area but Cheick Tiote had to nod away from under his own bar. Then, from the corner, Boschker spilled Clichy's long-range thunderbolt and Sagna sliced the rebound past the post.
Four minutes from the break, Clichy explicably gave the ball to Arnautovic but the 19-year-old Austrian showed his youth by blazing the ball horribly wide.
It has been a torrid first half from an Arsenal's perspective.
The signs were better after the restart. Van Persie had an early drive blocked and on the hour Eboue went clear for a second only to be bundled off the ball before he could get a shot away.
In between those efforts, Twente had enjoyed plenty of pressure and were still peppering the Arsenal area. However there were noticeably fewer alarms for Almunia.
Although Arsenal were improving, it is right to say the visitors 'stole' the lead in the 63rd minute. Edson Braffheid hauled down Eboue on the right and Van Persie threaded a free-kick low into the heart of the area. It found Gallas at the near post and the captain bundled the ball home off his knee.
It was a scruffy but crucial away goal.
The strike left Twente subdued and Arsenal started to exude more confidence.
Eleven minutes from time Elia nudged the ball inside for Arnautovic to prod a shot into the sidenetting. But it would be the home side’s last real effort.
In the 83rd minute, Walcott set up Adebayor to slot in the second from close range.
The goal was testament to Arsenal's self-belief. The performance could be improved upon but, in difficult circumstances, they had done their job.
Despite the second goal, the home crowd kept singing and the home side kept going but, after that, their challenge was spents.
Twente will no doubt take much from this game. As for Arsenal, the result looks better on paper than it did on the night and perhaps that is all that matters.
That, and qualification to the group stages of course.
 
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Toure and Nasri may be back for West Brom

By Richard Clarke

Kolo Toure and Samir Nasri are set to return for the Premier League opener against West Brom on Saturday.

The duo were among nine players who missed the 2-0 win against Twente in the Champions League third qualifying round first leg tie on Wednesday night.

As it stands, both Toure (hip) and Nasri (knee/thigh) are only pencilled in for the weekend. But the wait will certainly go on for the other injured players.

"Kolo could be back in the squad," Wenger told Arsenal TV Online on Thursday afternoon.

"He is not completely 100 per cent at the moment. He is still recovering a bit from pre-season problems. But hopefully Nasri can be back in the squad."

The remaining roll call of absences reads Philippe Senderos (hamstring), Cesc Fabregas (hamstring), Abou Diaby (thigh), Eduardo (leg), Tomas Rosicky (hamstring), Amaury Bischoff (groin) and Alex Song (Olympics participation). Of those, it appears the Spaniard is closest to a return.

"A reasonable target for Fabregas is the second leg of the Champions League game," said Wenger. "Diaby will take four to six weeks as we have said and we don't know about Senderos yet."

Arsenal TV Online subscribers can see the full interview on Friday morning. In it, Arsène Wenger talks about:
  • <LI class=bullet-arrow-silver>the result and the performance against Twente this week <LI class=bullet-arrow-silver>why the Champions League qualifier is not dead <LI class=bullet-arrow-silver>why there is no such thing as any easy start to the Premier League <LI class=bullet-arrow-silver>whether the ‘big four' will be the top four <LI class=bullet-arrow-silver>the sides that could break in <LI class=bullet-arrow-silver>facing a newly-promoted side on the opening day
  • the characteristics of the player he wants to sign
 
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  • Craig Beattie
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  • Sherjill MacDonald
  • Graham Dorrans
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By Richard Clarke
New season, new hero, same old result.
Samir Nasri took just three minutes 44 seconds to introduce himself to the Emirates Stadium faithful on Saturday. His well-crafted goal was enough to beat West Brom and put Arsenal top of the nascent Premier League table but Arsène Wenger knows his side must perform much better than this if they are going to be in the same position come May.
The home side thundered forward in the opening stages and Nasri’s goal appeared to be the first of many. However Arsenal lost their way after the break and West Brom had a couple of decent chances to equalise. Most notably when Johan Djourou cleared James Morrison’s shot off the line.
However, an opening day win is an important win, no matter how it comes. Arsenal will play better than this and draw during the coming campaign.
And there is a long, long way to go.
It may have been the first game of the Premier League campaign but Wenger’s men had already played nine pre-season fixtures this summer plus Wednesday’s Champions League qualifier. That, and Euro 2008, had taken a toll.
Nine players missed the game at Twente in midweek and just Nasri (thigh/knee) returned to the starting line-up this afternoon. Kolo Toure had only half-recovered from his hip injury and was left on the bench. He was joined there by Robin van Persie, who was rested, so Nicklas Bendtner was paired with Emmanuel Adebayor up front.
Emmanuel Eboue was employed as an emergency central midfielder alongside Denilson so Aaron Ramsey also dropped down. After an impressive game in midweek, Djourou retained his place alongside William Gallas.
As ever, Emirates Stadium was a picture on opening day. This lunchtime kick-off was the first game of the entire Premier League campaign. It added a little something extra to a game already jam-packed with anticipation.
Twente had gone for Arsenal’s throats in midweek and, to be honest, it rattled the Gunners. Wenger's men would try the same trick this afternoon and it had the same effect.
Within four minutes, the hosts had the lead. Nasri collected the ball in the left-hand channel and he nudged it to Bendtner who in turn found Gael Clichy on the left-hand byline. The Frenchman spotted Denilson racing towards the byline. The Brazilian reached the ball and cut back for Nasri to steer home a low shot from the corner of the six-yard box.
Arsenal were already looking rampant. Adebayor set up Walcott to nod a header towards the far post. It was blocked by a West Brom body but not, according to referee Howard Webb, a hand.
Soon afterwards, Gallas cracked a venomous long-range drive just wide from fully 30 yards. It was one of those piercing shots that retain its pace and flat trajectory throughout their journey.
Sagna tried his luck from the right flank minutes later but the deflection off Abdoulaye Meite saw the ball balloon just beyond the far post.
Midway through the half, Bendtner sent a steepling header wide. Although Do-Heon Kim did force Manuel Almunia to pull off a fine one-handed save just after the half-hour and then Djourou foiled Ismail Miller 12 yards out, Arsenal were still in control.
Before half-time, Nasri, Adebayor and Denilson all had long-range efforts to add to the lead.
The home side went into the interval cruising. The only issue was an old one – had they scored the goals they deserved?
And would it come back to haunt them.
The answer, as we found out four minutes in, was ‘nearly’. Miller escaped on the left and shot at Almunia’s legs from a tight angle. The ball rebounded to James Morrison who fired into the heart of a frantic area. Almunia got a touch on the shot but Djourou’s presence on the line was the main reason the ball was scrambled wide.
Adebayor might have settled the nerves a couple of minutes later when he burst clear only to sidefoot his shot wide.
However, you sensed Arsenal had started to lose their way. The muscular Miller was causing problems for the defence, and attacks from the home side were now fleeting.
Before the midway point of the half, Walcott had a shot charged down and Eboue blazed wide. With 23 minutes left, Adebayor had the ball in the net only to be flagged offside.
However the overwhelming Arsenal of the first half had waned. To liven up his side, Wenger brought on Van Persie and Toure for Walcott and Bendtner with around 20 minutes left.
Ten minutes from time, Adebayor’s long, arching cross was met by the Dutchman at the far post. His header was held by Carson.
A stumbling, turning Van Persie then prod a shot past the far post with five minutes to go.
At full time, the overwhelming emotion was relief. As at Twente on Wednesday, Arsenal had won the game, kept a clean sheet and done their jobs professionally.
However the trademark finesse may have to wait until their injured players return.
 
go gunners!
we started the league with a 1-0 win..more wins to come..
next stop craven cottage to whack fullham..
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arg 3 bra 0 ... wth???????

Argentina routs Brazil to reach another final

BEIJING (AP)—Sergio Aguero scored two second-half goals in seven minutes Tuesday and later set up another to lead Argentina to a 3-0 win over rival Brazil and into its second straight Olympic final.
Aguero opened the scoring for the defending champions by chesting in a left-side cross in the 52nd minute, then scored again from two meters (yards) on a cross from the right in the 58th. Aguero also set up a 76th-minute penalty kick that was converted by Juan Roman Riquelme.
It was the first victory for Argentina against Brazil in three years. It hadn’t beaten Brazil since a 3-1 victory in a World Cup qualifier in June 2005.
“It’s not a score you see every day when Brazil and Argentina play,” Argentina coach Sergio Batista said. “Argentina had a great match, with intelligence and personality.”

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The Argentine players huddled near midfield after the match and chanted to celebrate. The Argentines also did some celebrating inside the team’s bus as it was ready to leave the stadium, jumping around and singing together.
Argentina, trying to become the first nation to win consecutive titles in 40 years, will now face Nigeria in a rematch of the 1996 final in Atlanta, when the Africans won 3-2 for their first and only title.
Brazil will have to wait at least another four years to try to win its first Olympic gold medal. It is the only significant title the five-time world champions have never won.
The match in front of a crowd of nearly 53,000 at Workers’ Stadium marked the encounter of the tournament’s top stars, former FC Barcelona teammates Lionel Messi and Ronaldinho.
Both players displayed their uncanny skills, but Messi threatened the most and created dangerous scoring chances for Argentina. In his first Olympics, the midfielder set up Argentina’s second and third goals, while AC Milan’s Ronaldinho struck the post with a free kick as he tried to put Brazil back into the match.
Messi sent a dangerous shot across the area in the 32nd, and had one of his best chances in the 41st after clearing three defenders inside the area before firing a shot that was barely saved by goalkeeper Renan.
Aguero ran past defender Breno to open the scoring after Angel di Maria’s cross, then easily added to the lead in front of the goal mouth after Ezequiel Garay’s set-up. Messi started the play on the second goal by eluding several defenders before feeding the ball to Garay.
Messi also set up Aguero inside the area before he was fouled by Breno in the play that prompted the penalty kick, which Riquelme converted with a right-footed shot into the middle of the net.
After Aguero’s first goal, striker Rafael Sobis almost equalized with a powerful low shot that struck the post in the 60th. Ronaldinho also hit the post on a free kick in the 65th. Substitute forward Alexandre Pato scored after the free kick, but the goal was disallowed for offside.
“We played an even match with them, it was a hard game, as usual,” Brazil coach Dunga said. “But they got the first goal and that made things difficult.”
Brazil midfielder Lucas was sent off in the 81st after a foul from behind on Liverpool teammate Javier Mascherano. Substitute midfielder Thiago Neves was red-carded just three minutes later after another hard foul on Mascherano.
“It was Argentina’s best match in the Olympics so far,” Batista said. “It was a well-deserved result.”
The teams had drawn 0-0 in World Cup qualifying earlier in June, but Brazil routed Argentina 3-0 in last year’s Copa America and won by the same score in a friendly in London in 2006.
“Now we will try to win the bronze,” Pato said. “It will still be an honor to win that medal.”
In the other semifinal, Nigeria beat Belgium 4-1 in Shanghai after Chinedu Ogbuke Obasi
 
haha. all that talent. brazil basically imploded on themselves. especially the final few minutes after the 3rd goal. they totally gave up. and then got the 2 red cards. better luck next time. brightside, they can go for bronze.

argentina to get olympic goal again?
 
Yes, the way they're playing, they can definitely get that Gold. I watched the match and frankly the first half looked like Fulham and Hull playing, super cautious, with only a few breaks and chances. But the 2nd half was fantastic, the drama and all was great. 2 easy finishes for Aguero, credit to him and some really great passing. I agree with the comment abt Brazil imploding, they probably did not have the mental strength to keep pressing on. The 2 red cards were absolutely needless, those 2 boys need to have their ears washed out by someone like SAF. But all in all it was an ok match, the 2nd half making up the deficiencies of the 1st. Argentina for the Gold!
 
Ya, but can he fill that mother big gap in the defence subs? I think not. He's too old and may not be able to last a whole game, and he's average at best.
 


Silvestre seals Gunners move

Mikael Silvestre has completed a transfer to Arsenal for an undisclosed fee, bringing down the curtain on a nine-year Manchester United career.

The French defender, who joined from Internazionale in September 1999, made 361 appearances for the Reds, scoring 10 goals and winning 10 major honours.

Speaking after Silvestre had completed the formalities of his move, Sir Alex Ferguson told ManUtd.com: “Mikael was a great servant and a wonderful professional. We wish him all the best at his new club and thank him for his service.”

Silvestre performed in the centre or left side of defence for the Reds, but was hit by serious back-to-back injuries in his United career, suffering a dislocated shoulder and cruciate knee ligament damage in 2007.

With Patrice Evra established as United’s first-choice left back, and the central partnership of Nemanja Vidic and Rio Ferdinand seemingly set in stone, Mikael was unlikely to find regular first team football at Old Trafford this season.

Arsenal have swooped to add Silvestre’s international experience to their backline, and the popular Frenchman joins compatriots William Gallas, Gael Clichy, Bacary Sagna, Abou Diaby, Armand Traore and Samir Nasri at the Emirates Stadium.

Mikael has penned a two-year deal and will wear the number 18 shirt for the Gunners.
 
totally agree with crux god .... I hated Silvestre before .. not anymore..

shud have TRADED SENDEROS FOR HIM LAH!
 
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By Richard Clarke
If last season taught us anything, it was that Arsène Wenger’s Arsenal should not be written off.
Twelve months ago, the Emirates Stadium side were not even tipped to finish in the top four let alone challenge for the title.
In fact, they would lead the table for most of the campaign and finish only four points adrift of champions Manchester United in the final reckoning.
This term, Arsenal have started well enough – two games, two wins, no goals conceded – yet they have hardly hit their familiar free-flowing groove. Consequently, Wenger’s men are again being dismissed as title contenders. Speaking ahead of the trip to Fulham on Saturday, the manager talked of the need to get in a central midfielder before the transfer window closes but, he argues, a solid opening to the season will be a more accurate indication of their ability to compete.
“We have just started the season and had a very difficult game last Saturday,” said Wenger. “Everybody has discounted us at the moment but one more player will not make a big difference for us.
“For me, what is very important is to start the season well, by qualifying for the Champions League and winning our first few games. Then if we need an addition we can still do it.

"I do not especially [like being discounted],” Wenger went on. “It doesn't take any special pressure off us because I feel we have to win trophies. The pressure is exactly the same. For me we are here to win the trophy.
"However I think there is more to come from my team this season. We have a structure in the team and a way of playing that is very efficient. We have mastered that well so I do not see why we should not set ourselves high targets."
Arsenal will only reach that potential with a fully-fit squad. They beat Twente with nine players out and West Brom with seven absentees. Gradually Wenger is regaining his players but there is still a hefty squad on the sidelines, including new signing Mikael Silvestre.
“Diaby, Rosicky and Fabregas are still not back,” said Wenger.
“Silvestre has a little knock and I don’t think he will be involved over the weekend. But Alex Song has returned and should be available after the Olympics.
Philippe Senderos has an inflammation with his back. He should return soon, maybe not on Saturday but on Wednesday.
Samir Nasri is likely to come back in [for Fulham]. He missed the international [in midweek] because they did not want to take a gamble on a friendly game and I feel they made the right decision.”
Fulham started the season in the worst possible way by allowing new-boys Hull City to come from behind to claim victory at the KC Stadium. That result flies in the face of general opinion on Roy Hodgson’s side.
Having pulled off an escapology act at the end of last season, they threw off their financial straitjacket over the summer to bring in a number of new signings. However the biggest coup, striker Andrew Johnson, is struggling with a thigh problem and may not figure.
“Fulham have a strong squad now,” admitted Wenger. “They look much more dangerous going forward than last year and it's a derby, too.
“For me our success in this game will be based upon how quickly we can focus again after international matches.”
And, in turn, perhaps Arsenal’s success in the entire campaign will be based on how they cope with the early-season fixtures.
It certainly helped them to defy the critics 12 months ago.
 
shit happened indeed:(
what the hell are they doing...very disappointing to watch last night..arghh..
denilson is the biggest culprit,giving the ball away countless times.
arsenal should wake up from this one.....
anyway,it`s still early,and they have much work to do
argh!!
 
Bloody Gallas shud be blamed ..didnt Mmark convincingly for the Fulham goal then didnt lead the troops when the chips were down.

I say DROP GALLAS .. Bring in Silvestre and make TOURE the captain.

Denilson seemed a little bit too slow and not physical enuff ...

Nasri seems a good buy....

Van persie SHOULD NOT TAKE ANY MORE FREE KICKS

Thank god Fabregas will be back on Wed for the CL 2nd leg!

overall based on yesterday's showing all I can say is:

K N N B C C B!
 
Too bad too bad too bad! I think that the whole Arsenal team adopted a very laid-back attitude towards the cottagers and got duly punished. All i can say is, u guys better not be complacent anymore...........last season was probably a 1-off.
 
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