strat

[jemstone]

i'm sure some, or many, already have thought of this before and know the answer to this.

can i get a cheap squier strat, then outfit it with fender's pickup and pots, and make it sound more like an original fender strat?

 

[Praetorian]

Unfortunately the Squier has a "swimming pool" route. Which means, if you look under the pickguard, its a big empty space. Good, because it allows any pickup combination you want. Bad, because tonal qualities are compromised.

Fenders do not have this "swimming pool" underneath so the tone will be better than that of a Squier. More wood = More tone.

Secondly, I think that the quality of the wood used for Fender and Squier differ greatly, and as such the tone is compromised too.

My 2 cents.

 

[stillwater]

I thought american fender strats all got swimming pool routes? 8O

 

[Praetorian]

Wah. Serious? Cannot be laaaaaaaaaah... If really got swimming pool routes I will be malu loh...

 

[subversion]

I thought american fender strats all got swimming pool routes? 8O

WEF 2001, with the introduction of the American Series to supersede the American Std range, the cavity for strats is no longer a 'swimming pool' route. it's a H-S-H cavity... 8) the American Series made some fine revisions to the guitars/ basses design, this is one of them...

 

[dhalif]

Secondly, I think that the quality of the wood used for Fender and Squier differ greatly, and as such the tone is compromised too.

theres squiers with basswood and alder... so? how??? hahahaha

 

[pooo]

Secondly, I think that the quality of the wood used for Fender and Squier differ greatly, and as such the tone is compromised too.

theres squiers with basswood and alder... so? how??? hahahaha

What how? Use your ears lor. Haha.

 

[dhalif]

:smt067
:smt068 pooo
:smt070

 

[jemstone]

I thought american fender strats all got swimming pool routes? 8O

WEF 2001, with the introduction of the American Series to supersede the American Std range, the cavity for strats is no longer a 'swimming pool' route. it's a H-S-H cavity... 8) the American Series made some fine revisions to the guitars/ basses design, this is one of them...

so does this mean that it still have a swimming pool thinggy but they named it H-S-H?

i wouldn't mind getting a squier and replacing the pickups and pots with fender's to get something closer to a fender.

i'm still a noob after all.

 

[repulse87]

Unfortunately the Squier has a "swimming pool" route. Which means, if you look under the pickguard, its a big empty space. Good, because it allows any pickup combination you want. Bad, because tonal qualities are compromised.

Fenders do not have this "swimming pool" underneath so the tone will be better than that of a Squier. More wood = More tone.

Secondly, I think that the quality of the wood used for Fender and Squier differ greatly, and as such the tone is compromised too.

My 2 cents.

Some Fenders DO have the swimming pool route. Mex Fender Strats especially. I don't see this as a compromise or whatsoever. I doubt anyone will notice the sonic difference between a routed cavity or a swimming pool route. Its not an issue in choosing a strat for a beginner especially. The swimming pool route is lighter as more wood is taken out, its more mod-able. more wood may not necessarily mean more sustain, or TONE for that matter. Many guitars nowadays, including Les Pauls have weight relieve holes to make the guitar lighter. Whatever it is, the swimming pool route isn't an issue. period

 

[Praetorian]

You never know. Some people simply prefer the tonal qualities of the regular route. You may not notice it unless you're good enough, but it IS there.

However, I must say that swimming pool configurations allow for much greater pickup combination. H-H-S, S-H-S, S-S-S, H-S-H, you name it.

 

[subversion]

so does this mean that it still have a swimming pool thinggy but they named it H-S-H?

'swimming' pool cavity:

H-S-H cavity:

 

[dhalif]

i loike swimming pool cavity.. can change different kinda config in future

 

[pooo]

i loike swimming pool cavity.. can change different kinda config in future

I like it too, plus the hollowed out parts offers a little of that hollow body quality.

 

[ChanMin]

actually.. hollow bodied guitars ...have a solid center block which is where the main resonance takes place. the strat swimming pool routing takes out alot from the centre of the body.

 

[Praetorian]

Hmmmmm... mighty interesting. Probably the wood at the back is too thick to let the sound resonate like a semi acoustic?

 

[faizal_rocks]

I'm reviving this thread after 5 years!!! I was doing a yahoo search on swimming pool route strats and this thread popped up...

So what does everyone think about swimming pool route Strats? Robs the tone much? Lets hear ur inputs, ppl!