songwritting
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I keep asking James (who runs Soft) to start up a forum on songwriting but alas to no avail.
Anyways - the key should be decided early on cos' you're singing the song and you would have your range set out from the word go.
Lyrics or shords first ot a riff to give you the start you need - it doesn't matter. They all work. It's an artform dude! If it works, then why bother with one way or the other - or another?
WHen you're taking about chord families, I am assuming that you are talking about KEYs. Well, there are musical formulae for doing that and theory is involved - that's beyond me.
But nothing beats hearing the stuff in your ear and you ease in and out of keys as though they never existed - almost chromatic - priceless when that happens!
My advice, just go with the flow. Whatever happens - just let it flow. Songwriting is a process. And good songwriting requires experience and maturity. Start as soon as you can. Work towards quality and not quantity and you should be fine.
The rest of the way - well, that requires talent. And if you're hard at it, hopefully in due time we'll hear your stuff.
Bestest
RoRK
Anyways - the key should be decided early on cos' you're singing the song and you would have your range set out from the word go.
Lyrics or shords first ot a riff to give you the start you need - it doesn't matter. They all work. It's an artform dude! If it works, then why bother with one way or the other - or another?
WHen you're taking about chord families, I am assuming that you are talking about KEYs. Well, there are musical formulae for doing that and theory is involved - that's beyond me.
But nothing beats hearing the stuff in your ear and you ease in and out of keys as though they never existed - almost chromatic - priceless when that happens!
My advice, just go with the flow. Whatever happens - just let it flow. Songwriting is a process. And good songwriting requires experience and maturity. Start as soon as you can. Work towards quality and not quantity and you should be fine.
The rest of the way - well, that requires talent. And if you're hard at it, hopefully in due time we'll hear your stuff.
Bestest
RoRK
whether its words, melody line or keys/chords i see no reason why any of these needs to come in any sequential order, i would say just work from what comes to mind first and foremost and flesh out from there............inspiration and intuition are very important and will somehow give yr songs that unique quality............but whether or not the person is unique i wouldnt know hahaha
thor666
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Usually if you start chord wise then your melody tends to follow from the chords you play, which sometimes brings good results but can limit your song. Personally I like writing lyrics WITH melody - easier to complete later.
If you want to blend in other chords, you could -
1. use the circle of fifths. borrow related chords left or right of the IV and V. You probably need to hear some of the songs in action to get an idea. Blind Melon - No Rain makes use of this.
2. Key changes/modulation. Typically found in the last chorus of boyband songs, at 2 semitones higher.
3. Passing chromatic notes. Say a chord progression of C to D could have an added C#. Or you could play a single F# sliding to G etc. Again, comes with experience.
Other methods also possible. I dont think there's hard and fast rules to songwriting though. Listen more to get a good knowledge.
This book, available at libraries, should help you out a lot.
Cheers,
Raymond
If you want to blend in other chords, you could -
1. use the circle of fifths. borrow related chords left or right of the IV and V. You probably need to hear some of the songs in action to get an idea. Blind Melon - No Rain makes use of this.
2. Key changes/modulation. Typically found in the last chorus of boyband songs, at 2 semitones higher.
3. Passing chromatic notes. Say a chord progression of C to D could have an added C#. Or you could play a single F# sliding to G etc. Again, comes with experience.
Other methods also possible. I dont think there's hard and fast rules to songwriting though. Listen more to get a good knowledge.
This book, available at libraries, should help you out a lot.
Cheers,
Raymond
Gr3y
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i think e melody is e most important thing in a song.. at least for songs that influence me... not so much abt e riff/solo/chord progression/theory.. i might be wrong and there are billiions of method.. but i feel as long as the music sounds like music eventually and some1 actually likes what you created, you've succeeded..
bin4christ
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sorry but what does melody mean? not the vocal melody line right? but also not lead guitar line right?
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