tresurepressure007
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What do you guys think about this? 
Songwriter as a career in Singapore
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tresurepressure007
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That's true. Earning money from doing we love to do is probably the best feeling ever in my opinion 
I'm 20 and becoming a songwriter has been my dream job since I was 13
I'm 20 and becoming a songwriter has been my dream job since I was 13 
bombthebasses
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songwriting as a career is a rare opportunity
parablue74
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Good luck to you..
centralcatchment
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There's an article about Taylor Swift.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/04/taylor-swift-cover-story
Taylor Swift, in the grand scheme of things is at the moment is someone I would consider a "good enough songwriter". No, she probably hasn't written anything that belongs in the Great American songbook as of now. She's better than 90% of the people operating today, definitely better than Adele. In an ideal world, she would write and Adele would sing.
Here is a quote from that article:
“I have to work really hard to get the record deal—I have to spend years at it to get good. I have to practice to be good at guitar. I have to write 100 songs before you write the first good one.”
I don't play guitar so I can't relate to that. The 100 songs thing is definitely true. My first 100 attempts were crap. Songwriting is not fun when you are on your first 100 songs. It's not supposed to be fun. Some people have talent and they will write 100 and then come up with something good. Other people have no talent, and they will never reach an acceptable level no matter how hard they try. Occasionally, you will have people like Brian Wilson who said "I will write my first song today" and magically come up with Surfer Girl. But he's Brian Wilson and anyway you don't want to be Brian Wilson because he had a shit life.
So here is a method of getting started.
1. Learn to judge whether or not a song is good. Listen to songs, decide whether or not they're good, and try to find out what makes the good songs work.
2. Learn how to write a song without sitting at a piano. ie you have to figure out in your head how it sounds, you have to edit everything in your head.
3. Write 100 songs and see what happens.
That's about it. Good luck.
Edit: one more thing. Taylor Swift has a very very bad habit of hooking up with people, screwing up her romantic relationships, having nasty breakups, and then writing poison pen songs about her exes. Do not, I repeat, do not adopt this practice. It will kill your personal life. Decent right minded men will hear about what you do, and stay far far away from you. As of now, her ability to enter a nurturing and fulfilling romantic relationship with the right kind of guy is approximately zero - and she's still young and pretty! This is a shame.
Many many years ago, Carly Simon wrote a song called "You're So Vain" and for many years after that refused to either name the person the song was referring to, or confirm that it was Warren Beatty. Learn from Carly Simon.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/04/taylor-swift-cover-story
Taylor Swift, in the grand scheme of things is at the moment is someone I would consider a "good enough songwriter". No, she probably hasn't written anything that belongs in the Great American songbook as of now. She's better than 90% of the people operating today, definitely better than Adele. In an ideal world, she would write and Adele would sing.
Here is a quote from that article:
“I have to work really hard to get the record deal—I have to spend years at it to get good. I have to practice to be good at guitar. I have to write 100 songs before you write the first good one.”
I don't play guitar so I can't relate to that. The 100 songs thing is definitely true. My first 100 attempts were crap. Songwriting is not fun when you are on your first 100 songs. It's not supposed to be fun. Some people have talent and they will write 100 and then come up with something good. Other people have no talent, and they will never reach an acceptable level no matter how hard they try. Occasionally, you will have people like Brian Wilson who said "I will write my first song today" and magically come up with Surfer Girl. But he's Brian Wilson and anyway you don't want to be Brian Wilson because he had a shit life.
So here is a method of getting started.
1. Learn to judge whether or not a song is good. Listen to songs, decide whether or not they're good, and try to find out what makes the good songs work.
2. Learn how to write a song without sitting at a piano. ie you have to figure out in your head how it sounds, you have to edit everything in your head.
3. Write 100 songs and see what happens.
That's about it. Good luck.
Edit: one more thing. Taylor Swift has a very very bad habit of hooking up with people, screwing up her romantic relationships, having nasty breakups, and then writing poison pen songs about her exes. Do not, I repeat, do not adopt this practice. It will kill your personal life. Decent right minded men will hear about what you do, and stay far far away from you. As of now, her ability to enter a nurturing and fulfilling romantic relationship with the right kind of guy is approximately zero - and she's still young and pretty! This is a shame.
Many many years ago, Carly Simon wrote a song called "You're So Vain" and for many years after that refused to either name the person the song was referring to, or confirm that it was Warren Beatty. Learn from Carly Simon.
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RayKnight
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Taylor Swift also loves to write about details...if you check out her lyrics. Okay, ummm...back to being on a serious note. I love music and would love to write lyrics, however, as much as my passion is in music, I have a day job to keep.
I do recommend, doing what every other hobbists (hobby-enthusiasts) out there did before they got famous. They did it all in the name of fun, they did it out of passion, they did it out of pure joy. And one day, perhaps one day, someone discovers them and they succeed.
I always believe that if you enjoy doing something and you keep doing it, you'll get better at it. But always keep your options open. I'd suggest having a day job, but yet write music on the side and perform whenever you can. If you can't sing, have someone sing what you write while you play, record and put them on YouTube.
You want a better reference than Taylor Swift?
Barry Manilow was writing jingles for commercials before he became successful. Indie bands such as Meg & Dia got famous via YouTube videos, and their guitarist was hired because they saw his video and was impressed with his guitar playing.
Who else? Let's see...we have a lot of talented Asian artists, either doing covers or something. Check them out, don't stop looking and never stop getting inspired.
I do recommend, doing what every other hobbists (hobby-enthusiasts) out there did before they got famous. They did it all in the name of fun, they did it out of passion, they did it out of pure joy. And one day, perhaps one day, someone discovers them and they succeed.
I always believe that if you enjoy doing something and you keep doing it, you'll get better at it. But always keep your options open. I'd suggest having a day job, but yet write music on the side and perform whenever you can. If you can't sing, have someone sing what you write while you play, record and put them on YouTube.
You want a better reference than Taylor Swift?
Barry Manilow was writing jingles for commercials before he became successful. Indie bands such as Meg & Dia got famous via YouTube videos, and their guitarist was hired because they saw his video and was impressed with his guitar playing.
Who else? Let's see...we have a lot of talented Asian artists, either doing covers or something. Check them out, don't stop looking and never stop getting inspired.
centralcatchment
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OKOK. Limpeh was listening to Smashing Pumpkins' "Siamese Dream" a lot when it first came out. (Actually the year after it came out, that's how long music took to come to Singapore back in the day.)
And recently limpeh is the proud owner of a newly remastered copy of that album, with liner notes by Billy Corgan. Now Billy Corgan has some good advice even though he's a stuck up asshole (he's a bit like me). This is what he said about "Siamese Dream".
http://aln3.albumlinernotes.com/Siamese_Dream__2011_.html
OK, so you know. Billy Corgan is like some guitar god. Songwriting isn't even his strongest suit. (That honour goes to Saint Kurt (RIP Kurt)). But he understands what it's all about. Writing good songs = "I'm not going back to work at the record store."
Unfortunately, as the subsequent trajectory of his career proves, good songs are rare. My opinion is that he shot off all his cum by the time of "Mellon Collie". After that the quality just went down, and put that together with all the personell problems amongst his fellow pumpkins, you'd get a case of major career stagnation. But that's OK because you're already a rock legend.
And recently limpeh is the proud owner of a newly remastered copy of that album, with liner notes by Billy Corgan. Now Billy Corgan has some good advice even though he's a stuck up asshole (he's a bit like me). This is what he said about "Siamese Dream".
http://aln3.albumlinernotes.com/Siamese_Dream__2011_.html
OK, so you know. Billy Corgan is like some guitar god. Songwriting isn't even his strongest suit. (That honour goes to Saint Kurt (RIP Kurt)). But he understands what it's all about. Writing good songs = "I'm not going back to work at the record store."
Unfortunately, as the subsequent trajectory of his career proves, good songs are rare. My opinion is that he shot off all his cum by the time of "Mellon Collie". After that the quality just went down, and put that together with all the personell problems amongst his fellow pumpkins, you'd get a case of major career stagnation. But that's OK because you're already a rock legend.
tresurepressure007
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thanks guys for your opinions!
tresurepressure007
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Yay! All the best to you!
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Thanks a ton! I totally have to agree with you on Taylor's past relationship and even now!
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why you call yourself lao peh ? you no lao peh izzit ?
blueprintstudios
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they say trolls require a strict nutritional diet and usually found at areas with "No Feeding" signs...
tresurepressure007
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LOL! noooice one! XD
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