SLS help?
- Thread starter Ardentash
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Yea, sort of. But when people talk about voice, middle C is almost always C3
Haha you are concerned with like all the technicalities. Just enjoy singing man! Expression of the human soul. Yea I was trying to tell you dont be too quick to judge yourself. Your adam's apple shouldnt rise, you can feel it when you sing. If it rises means you are straining. Try doing brrrr sound. Flapping your lips like bbbbbbbbbbbbbb-b. Sing with scale. Sooner or later you will find your head voice.
jianrong
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Dont give up, be patient and dont be so eager about what you learn or wanted to know your true vocal potential so quick.
Just practise the exercises and take note of the weak points that Daniel pointed out.
In time to come, months or year later. You will see the result.
One of Daniel successful vocal student. He now at shanghai.
Check him out - http://music.fred-lin.com/index.php/music
Me speaking from regrets and experiences.
Just practise the exercises and take note of the weak points that Daniel pointed out.
In time to come, months or year later. You will see the result.
One of Daniel successful vocal student. He now at shanghai.
Check him out - http://music.fred-lin.com/index.php/music
Me speaking from regrets and experiences.
Hmm, what exercise are you worried about? If it's lip rolls, make sure the underlying sound is a dopey UH UH tone, not woo woo.
Keep your hand on the larynx to make sure it doesn't shoot up excessively.It will probably rise quite a bit when you just start out but just try to be conscious of the movement for now. Your body will slowly start to get used to it and the larynx won't move as much.
You must practice at home. In fact, the bulk of your gains will be had from practice time at home, not from lessons, at least during the beginning.
As long as it's light, easy and not strained, you can't go wrong.
I been noticing this for quite some times. Everytime i try to get F/f sharp or higher,i not in head voice but when i hit the note. my ear like got airy feeling,sorta itchy but not buzzing like headvoice and this makes me unable to hear anything clearly all.
And i found out something.although we may have like 3 octave or something. Most songs are only done in like 1.5 to 2 octave. The rest is like for backup just in case you may want to up/low key or something ?
Yeap. He told me its C4(middle c)
another reason i wanted to ask is so as to know which note i am hittin and i wont get confused and he has explained things to me already
And i found out something.although we may have like 3 octave or something. Most songs are only done in like 1.5 to 2 octave. The rest is like for backup just in case you may want to up/low key or something ?
Yeap. He told me its C4(middle c)
another reason i wanted to ask is so as to know which note i am hittin and i wont get confused and he has explained things to me already
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Hmm strange sensation. I think you should consult an ENT specialist to check if it's really bothering you. Are you using a lot of air pressure to vocalize?
Don't think it's about changing the keys. It's always good to have reserve notes so that 1) You won't tire yourself out by singing the songs, and 2) Powerful confidence booster
jeremyspk
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hi all,
I'm doing Singing Success mentioned by fretness.
(i think SS is like SLS, but done by Brett Manning, who was once in SS.)
Yeah, now trying to find my mix. Speech level singing has helped me alot, by doing vocalisation exercises and understand the bridge part. But still can't really get a light mix properly...
I'm doing Singing Success mentioned by fretness.
(i think SS is like SLS, but done by Brett Manning, who was once in SS.)
Yeah, now trying to find my mix. Speech level singing has helped me alot, by doing vocalisation exercises and understand the bridge part. But still can't really get a light mix properly...
E4 is the E above the C that's ABOVE middle C. Middle C = C3. C above middle C = C4.
You can mix the chest and head registers at many notes, not only the high ones. And it doesn't necessarily have to be at the bridge. Once you become more familiar with how your head and chest registers work, it becomes easier to blend the mixture you want.
To answer your question, generally for tenors, E4 and above should be done in mixed/head. But in commercial singing, males almost never sing in full head voice so it's usually mixed.
Most tenors' passagio (bridge) starts from E natural, with some high tenors (countertenors) approaching their bridge only at F#.
It's a common misconception that the mix is restricted to certain notes. The mix is essentially just a blend of chest and head voice. It doesn't feel like some sort of switch you turn on/off to 'activate' the mix. You can even do a heady-chest mix even on low notes for a tenor like say, A3-B3. But of course that will feel quite weird since it is much easier and natural-sounding to do it in pure chest.
I didn't hear all of jeremyspk's songs, but the ones that i heard didn't sound like there were any high notes in there, so i don't think it was even necessary for him to pull chest lol.
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jeremyspk
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@Ardentash and Noinimod,
Noinimod is right, my highest notes in all the songs is at most F. Yeah, any high you'll hear me spueeking like a mouse. My mix is not strong enough, any more I'll be loosing control. But yeah, i'm working on it HAHA!
1year ago I was straining at Eb, and distorted vowel.
Noinimod is right, my highest notes in all the songs is at most F. Yeah, any high you'll hear me spueeking like a mouse. My mix is not strong enough, any more I'll be loosing control. But yeah, i'm working on it HAHA!
1year ago I was straining at Eb, and distorted vowel.so you do have a mix ?thats good then.i only have chest and a limited airy falsetto. =x.no head voice no mix.=x
Can i ask somethin bout the warm up.
Like Nay,Nay,Nay,NAY X3,Nay,nay,nay
Lets say i start with C. The highest nay in the note is what?
Cause usually even i hit the highest nay in the few nay and if i start from C,people would say i just hit a C and they wont say that i hit the note(the highest nay de note),why ah?
I love your just let go song. smooth transition from chest to voice.
For me i can hit F,its not strain but the tone change,like getting very thin and softer even i try to push it to come out.
Seems like all traditional school de teacher uses sls de warm up and stuff when they are not certified. =x
Mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNmXlS-hw-s
(Purposely go off key cause i want to sing higher key but dont know how to lower octave for the song and i cant sing in original key cause i only have chest register
Can i ask somethin bout the warm up.
Like Nay,Nay,Nay,NAY X3,Nay,nay,nay
Lets say i start with C. The highest nay in the note is what?
Cause usually even i hit the highest nay in the few nay and if i start from C,people would say i just hit a C and they wont say that i hit the note(the highest nay de note),why ah?
I love your just let go song. smooth transition from chest to voice.
For me i can hit F,its not strain but the tone change,like getting very thin and softer even i try to push it to come out.
Seems like all traditional school de teacher uses sls de warm up and stuff when they are not certified. =x
Mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNmXlS-hw-s
(Purposely go off key cause i want to sing higher key but dont know how to lower octave for the song and i cant sing in original key cause i only have chest register
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btherl
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The highest note is also C. If you use the long scale then it's diferent. So if you start a "SLS short scale", the "nay nay nay NAY X3 nay nay nay" on C3, the high note is C4. If you start on C4, the high note is C5.
But if you start a long scale on C3 the high note is G4.
For the long scale, in most cases you can just count 5 letters along and you will find the high note. Start on C, count C D E F G, then the high note is G. Start on G, count A B C D E, high note is E. This guideline doesn't always work as if you start on B and sing a long scale, the high note is F#, not F.
The SLS exercises don't "belong" to SLS. Many of them are inherited from traditional singing schools. But the way in which they are used and the particular exercises your teacher is choosing for you, and why he chooses each exercise, that is what makes SLS.
And SLS is fine with other teachers using those exercises as long as they don't claim to be teaching SLS
Can you do a recording of yourself doing nays and lip rolls? Got no idea what you're talking about, so an audio clip would be good.
That song is quite tricky to sing cos the notes are mostly around E4-F#4 bridge area. So if you haven't smoothed out your bridge and/or developed the head voice, there will be a very great tendency to just try and pull chest to reach it.
If you do it like this guy, who is actually pulling chest to reach the notes but still sounds relatively okay, it'll be extremely tiring. You can actually hear the high larynx choked sound on the higher notes.. must be painful for him lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kBqC0Wi4Sg
Anyway, check out this guy, really awesome singing. Wonder where he took lessons from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vzCeAegwOo
My opinion & experience is - Learn "live/in-person" with a coach.
If you try to learn it by urself, the possibility of misinterpreting the exercises is very high. Then once you had learned the "bad habit" through wrong conditioning, it's hard to unlearn.
Be willing to spend the cash for quality knowledge.
