recording?

Godspeed64

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hey guys..
im just wondering, whats the best place for a band to record some songs?
any recommendations?

if you're gonna post can place a price estimate?
and btw would the band record at the same time or one instrument at a time?

sorry.. never recorded before! X)
 
Just a tip.
You get what you pay for.
And sometimes what seems like a cheap option may not be cheaper as you end up spending a lot more time (and therefore more money) getting it right
 
+1 to that. look through the details and always have black & white for any agreement. you never know when some studios might decide to change their minds without telling you.
 
yes as what I know. some studios even though they charge cheaper, but bands who are new to recording will realise when they record, the take (drums for example) is almost perfect except for a "missed" kickdrum. and they'll get you to re-take the whole thing.
whereas studios who charge higher tend to preserve the almost perfect take and get the "missing kickdrum" fixed within 10 mins. because seriously it's about the music being more important than the money.

then again this is just a basic example I've observed when I dropped by another band's/recording studio's session just to be extra lampost. do spare a thought that some studios are indeed cheap and sound decent at the same time too.

otherwise the money is just to pay for their time because if studios charity to bands. who's gonna charity to studios?

end of the day my tip is,
1) of course, watch the budget. (average range of studio charges at $40 to 50 as you can see.)

2) listen to the sound that the studio is capable of providing REGARDLESS of equipment. hear the past recording works rather than where the person "used to work/study". cos i believe some ppl can excel in theory and suck at hands on + vice versa.

3) believe it or not, some studios have a particular genre specialty. (because like you musicians who listen/play genres, we have a genre preference too) if you're a hardcore hard hitting band recording with someone who specializes in jazz, you might as well go to someone else who LOVES hardcore music.highly likely you'll sound better unless you play hardcore jazz.

4) tag along! if you've heard about your friends's band going to record. thats the best view you can get to have better understanding and you may learn something even. (my first recording-tag-a-long was on 5th Dec 1999) and that guided me to setup my own bedroom studio then later moving on to mobile.

5) learn to identify/understand the recording process.
a)Setting Up > b)Recording > c)Mixing > d)Mastering.

a) some studios charge slow bands for setting up still running at $40 per hour for wasting their time. (seriously get your guitars tuned in advance. change strings etc. and do your "practising" during jamming not recording)

b) this is usually a standard $per hour rate. unless some studios will charge per day system. if not the entire fat package per song system with *limits*

c) some still let the time ticking running at $X per hour. some (like me) let it be inclusive/free with the whole recording thing. and others will charge a $X per SONG system (usually recording cheap but per song mixing will rack up).

d) usually an optional process or included free with the mixing. because believe it or not, if you bring a perfectly fine mix to a guy who claims he can master without a high profile international portfolio background. he's could end up trashing the mix for a cost (bill's on YOU). this is why you guys probably have heard bands record here in singapore and sending it over to "somewhere over the rainbow" to some golden-eared guy to master.

thats about what I can remember for now.

99¢ worth.
 
godspeed : I just realised I haven't answered your questions.

>whats the best place for a band to record some songs?
the best place you and your band and your wallets and your ears determine.

>any recommendations?
as every popular band would recommend : snakeweed
but wayne thunder (long time friends with leonard soosay) passed on recently I think it may be the worst time to ask for a booking. I know I'd be terribly distracted if my best friend died and I wouldn't be able to concentrate during recording.

>would the band record at the same time or one instrument at a time?
2 kinds : Live (all at once) / Layer (one by one)
if a few songs requires you record for 2 hours. and studio charges $50. and you're a 4 piece band.
Live : $100 , divide by 4 band members. = $20 per head.
Layer : 2 hours X 4 members X $50 = $400. (won't take until so much la maybe between $250 - $400)

sound quality wise most likely different unless the audio engineer's style happen to kickass at live recording and suck at layer.

cheers

20¢ worth.
 
Rule no. 1 : Use Metronome
Rule no. 2 : Use Metronome
Rule no. 3 : Use Metronome

If very hard to follow metronome, pack your bags, go home, practice with metronome and head back to studio when ready. 1 very valueable advice. hope tt helps
 
cool.. thnx guys..
i'll choose wisely.. :D
and about the metronome.. yeah.. i know its important..
but somehow im not so sure how to use it properly.. :oops:
thats why my band practice together frequently..
so that we get our timings right..
and most of the time our timings are alright..
except for once during a performance..
anyone tried recording at backbeats?
jammed there a few times.. liked the place..
 
Do note that recording is often very different to jamming with the band
especially if you take the layering approach.
when you play live you are able to adjust quickly to small variations in tempo, when you do an overdub you may not be able to follow the changes because you are not iin the same room and the recorded track wont respond to what you are playing the same way a live musician will.

Also, bear in mind what you want to use the track for. If you want to create radio edit etc. then you need to be able to cut parts out (e.g. remove extra chorus or shorten the intro). If you don't use a metronome there is no way this can work.

metronome gives you a constant beat to match your count to.
So long as your drummer can follow the metronome is ok, cause then the rest of you just follow the drummer
 
wah. I never use metronome before. :(

Can it be like - ALL JAM FIRST.

Then layer recording while listening to the recorded 'JAM' ?

:)

It will be cool if anyone out there can answer me ah. :(
 
like i said, cant follow metronome..practice wit metrononome then go record after used to it. dont forget to play wit feel too when playin wit metronome. cannot follow metronome dont record a studio quality one. u want to record for reference, live recording using MD player lor.
 
isnt it hard for the drummer?

meaning, listen metronome then do 'drum solo' all the way?

no guitar to listen to?
 
hey man, split ur prac time up.

do metronome work, then get a CD of the genre u wanna play and play to the CD to get the appropriate feel of the music. this last step is very impt.
u can skip the metronome part and just play to CDs, but i wld do both to get it down tight and phat
 
ok, another way is to record the guitar track following the metronome. After that is done, the drummer will record while listening to the recorded guitar track followed by the metronome as well. vwala :wink:
 
eh eh chud, who is u? haha. where got kecoh, must enforce the discipline of using metronome la. then our local musicians can be same standard as overseas bands. Im just talkin bout tightness standard ah. Important beb! :D
 
i represent the brotherhood of man juice squirters aka PancutDalam. actually the kecoh was for the sabbat gig during your set. hahaha
 
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