Problems with MY Edge Pro

[DeathCubeK]

This post is going to sound part rant, part query. Firstly, I've always had bad luck with floating trems. This started ever since I had my first RG, with its Edge 3 trem, and now with my RG prestige 2620 with its edge pro trem. Recently(few months ago) I sent my axe for a setup at KC from Maestro, who did a great job and got my action low and just basically, perfect. But that was when I was still in NS, so I super rarely used my guitar. Recently I orded(ord oh!) and I decided its time to get serious about guitar again, but I realised all my strings were out of tune, in fact all of them were seriously flat. So I tuned up. And my trem started to rise.. And Rise... And Rise.. and you know the rest from there, folks. Now I have a trem that's impossible to tune and I'm seriously considering throwing my guitar downstairs. I've had it with floating trems. Why do they have to be such pain in the asses.

So anyway, I calmed down and I realise I have only 2 options. Send it to KC for setup again and keep it or send it for setup and sell it afterwards. I'm sure it's not a problem with the trem, it works fine. It's just that I probably didnt touch the guitar for a long period of time and it got out of tune. But I figured i would be able to tune it up again. Well, I was wrong. I love the guitar, I just hate the trem. I'm considering getting a fixed bridge guitar from now on, or at most a classic trem.

 

[subversion]

don't mind me saying... but dual action bridges are a pain partly due to the users who failed to understand & quick to dismiss...

you mentioned not playing this guitar for some time, yes? this overpronation happens (tilting too much upon re-tuning) largely due to the following possibilities:

*your guitar's neck warped while in storage, hence requiring re-tuning as it seems, which would definitely entail in the off-positioning of your guitar's bridge

*the whammy bridge springs (located at the rear cavity) requires replacement; a fresh set holds the bridge location better

sometimes we get mad because we aren't enlightened...

 

[theunknown]

yes bro, i wouldnt blame floating bridges. non, i believe could last a lifetime without needing a few setups. wear and tear in the springs may be the reason for your problem.

 

[DeathCubeK]

Haha. Yeah, I'm getting mad because I'm not enlightened? If an enlightened person's answer is that I have a warped neck(serious problem) or replacement of the springs(not such a serious problem), I would be even more pissed, because then I'll have to fork out even more money and time. I started this thread more as a way of finding out if any soft users have the same sentiments as me, not to hear people lecture me about my knowledge of guitar parts. I'm sure enlightened people love floating bridges and use it all the time.

 

[subversion]

this is where more enlightenment would deliver you from being mad:

*warped neck- can be cured, just do truss rod adjustment. guitar necks experiencing this anomaly is not undergoing a severe warp. if you can handle this yourself, it won't cost you anything...

*purchase new springs & replace the older ones yourself- how much is each spring? about $3, at most you need 3... is this a costly affair?

nobody's here to lecture you, especially so when the situation is such that it's expected when one deals with a floating bridge. yes, there are countless players out there with dual action bridges who are experiencing this set-up issue, the ones dealing with a lesser reputation units (budget Floyd copies which simply wont stay in tune...) are experiencing more hell. this is why, when i buy guitars with dual action bridges, i make it a point to invest in original Floyd units or other equivalents; Ibanez's Edge Pro model is certainly one of them...

 

[Whitestrat]

I started this thread more as a way of finding out if any soft users have the same sentiments as me, not to hear people lecture me about my knowledge of guitar parts. I'm sure enlightened people love floating bridges and use it all the time.

I don't believe this... Sub sincerely comes in to try to help you diagnose your problem and you fly off the handle at him not to mention a weak attempt at being sarcastic? How mature is that?

If you have a genuine problem, and come here seeking answers, you are very welcome. But please don't come here because you had a bad experience and lash out unnecessarily at well intended posts. That's not a nice thing to do.

Have you also considered that the problem you're facing has to do with old strings? That has ALREADY been stretched to its max elasticity or close? That perhaps a new set might help alleviate the issue? Again, not a very serious problem is it?

 

[subversion]

I don't believe this... Sub sincerely comes in to try to help you diagnose your problem and you fly off the handle at him not to mention a weak attempt at being sarcastic? How mature is that?

no worries bro- sometimes we don't intend to put forth ourselves in a certain light when addressing issues especially in this faceless virtual platform, it's all understood. that's why i make it a point to include some smilies somewhere to make it known that it's not what it seems to be; saying it personally & typing entries here: big diff...

 

[Whitestrat]

Sub... I have something to tell you...

Wa... Si... Le... Lau Bei...

Hahahahhaa!!!!:twisted::mrgreen:

Eh... ask you ah... you're using the ZR trem too right? Any sustain issues?

 

[subversion]

ZR- no sustain issues thusfar...

 

[dustofsinner]

Please don't mind me saying this. either you and the tech who set up your guitar doesn't understand the edge pro trem.

first, you have to stretch your strings fully. it was not stretched fully and that's why they were all flat after under tension for quite some time. i put this as 'first' bcoz it is the most important thing you've gotta do before you tune a guitar with a floating bridge.

second, all floating bridges rise when you tense the tuner. you tune, adjust the trem angle, tune, adjust, tune, and adjust. tuning and adjusting the trem goes hand in hand.

third, don't try to use all your money paying tech to do this kind of easy job unless you're a multi-millionaire or a world famous player with about millions of dollars income.

fourth, be patient and be willing to learn. don't expect the guitar to follow your way. you must always be appreciate with what it can do for you.

 

[Whitestrat]

ZR- no sustain issues thusfar...

Hmm... I'm experiencing a bit of sustain loss from my ZR7. It doesn't hold the note as well as all my other trem equipped guitars, though this is the only one with a locking nut. The rest all have locking tuners. I know it's not an issue of the float, as my EBMM JP6 is full floating, and actually sustains as long as my Les Paul.

I wonder what the problem is.

 

[subversion]

i dunno if you have prior experience with the Edge/ LO-Pro/ Edge Pro/ ZR but the ZR is the heftiest of them all & it is suspect to robbing the body resonance... this happens to guitars fitted with .010s or thicker strings. i'm using .009s so that might be the reason i'm ok with my ZR/ Ibanez guitar... he he...

ok, not to rob this thread of its original intent...

 

[opposite_youth]

So far i got no problems with my Edge Pro using .009 strings.