Parents- Supportive or unsupportive.

1) Parents who dont accept who their children are no 'parents', hands down

2) I am more passionate about music than making billions of dollars like nerdy roman avramovich

3) Ma, Pa, do you want me to be happy or do you want me to make money and look reputable.

4) Besides music is the most important thing in the world, cut off music I will really really die

5) Say no now I will wander the streets alone till I find music.
 
Hi all, thanks for replying. As we can all see, parents here, generally unsupportive, do not stop their children from picking up and learning their instrument of choice as long as "we outgrow our youthful dreams and contribute to the bills and rents etc."

Its kind of sad, but true, parents do not show much support. But living in an environment like ours, simply do not tolerate budding musician.

How was it like, when supportive parents turn up for your gig/ performance etc? Did u feel extra pressure etc?
 
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How was it like, when supportive parents turn up for your gig/ performance etc? Did u feel extra pressure etc?

It wasn't that bad. They gave some comments such as not looking and connecting with the crowd, not moving around much as a band, the vocals a bit off pitch at times. They were surprised at seeing a lot of kids hitting each other (aka mosh-ing).
 
1) Parents who dont accept who their children are no 'parents', hands down

2) I am more passionate about music than making billions of dollars like nerdy roman avramovich

3) Ma, Pa, do you want me to be happy or do you want me to make money and look reputable.

4) Besides music is the most important thing in the world, cut off music I will really really die

5) Say no now I will wander the streets alone till I find music.

To me, this kind of belief will only help give weight to parents' decisions to not support their children's musical aspirations.

This is very short-sighted, almost childish. In many other coutries, many musicians don't have nearly enough money pumped into their education by their parents. Parents here cover practically everything up to tertiary. Imagine how they would feel when you tell them the above 5 reasons?
 
for one thing. our parents really knows it. singapore u wan be rockstar. a bit cmi. its not about whether they like the music we do or not. they love it. its just that when we get older, we dont study properly, no good job end up no money. they do not wan us to be like this. what's more the cost of living in singapore is getting higher and higher. probably when we're not that old enough we don't feel it? i dont know.
 
To me, this kind of belief will only help give weight to parents' decisions to not support their children's musical aspirations.

This is very short-sighted, almost childish. In many other coutries, many musicians don't have nearly enough money pumped into their education by their parents. Parents here cover practically everything up to tertiary. Imagine how they would feel when you tell them the above 5 reasons?

You thinks its childish, short sighted, how about speaking the truth, it is not I don appreciate all the thier effort in raising me, in the end I will provide them back with what they provided me and more even tho it will never be enough. You might find it miracle but they actually support me what I do when I told them that because truth hurts but it is definitely better than 1000 of butterflies reasons, they need to know what you are thinking and not lying and that is the most important thing. I repsect kinship and but this doesnt mean I should hold an office 9-5 job for their sake right. In my honest opinion, a parent should always respect what the children has to say, but that I don mean using^&*^*& signs, I mean telling them really how you feel, I think this will make them respect you even more. Now you list me 5 good reasons.
 
My father work in a band. That's why he never encourage to work for music. duh /=

He also say this to me "Play so long also dun noe how to play song (in chinese)"....

But he never discourage also lah. =)

But seriously.. singapore music.. now.. actually very good.. but mediacorp shoot the mv until like shit.. (No offence lah)
 
Steviegfc, I know what you mean. But there is no escaping the fact that parents will be disappointed, regardless of how much they love you, or how much they impose themselves on you.

To many people, things that don't earn money are not worth doing. Not everyone is like that, I don't know if the majority of people are like that but there definitely are quite a few people of this mindset around.

Also since they are parents, think from their point of view. They will most likely believe this is just a mere phase that you are going through (which is true for most of us), and therefore block out most of your reasons for your pursuit of music. Like how a 14 year old sibling of yours might think right now he wants to become a gangster, but you being more experienced, tell him that it is a bad decision.

Sure the analogy isn't exactly accurate, but I'm sure you get what I mean. That's why I don't think a lack of parental support is suprising.
 
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Hey dude, thanks for replying. I am a person who dont mind eating porridge everyday or living in a rented one housed room to play music, thats why my passion for music a bit strong and my answer is sometimes intense. But I get what you mean, believe me most of my friends are the same as what you mean, and I do respect that you have to put yourselves in people's shoes. It is sometimes a little complicated, but though I would like to respect people's view, I would like to think I am not those just-play-and-that-is-it person, I like to pursue what I think is right, and will not give up ever, and personally think that music is something not embarrassing to pursue and a whole lot to pride to it. I have to agree with you, like if it doesnt make you money or earn a living in the end maybe you have to re-think, but I dunno man, mayb I am not like that, I feel that I have wasted three yrs in my life, and would not like to waste any more time.

Thanks for hearing me out bro, I hope you pursue what you find meaningful in life too.

Take care tim098
steviegfc
 
I've been really fortunate to have very supportive parents. They've paid for lessons, gotten me started on my entry level equipment, and done creative accounting with the education fund they set aside for me to send me to music school. Yet, they've always maintained that I should keep my options open, and complete my studies so i have the option to get a normal day job. Today, I'm grateful to them for that. Your ability to play and enjoy music will remain with you so long as you practice and you take a step back and listen to something good every so often. The window of time when you can complete your education expires after certain life decisions.

Music IS a viable career, provided you're prepared to practice very, very hard and never stop learning, work long and odd hours, and make many sacrifices in your personal life. Just because your parents don't support your taking it up as a full-time job, doesn't mean they don't support your music dream.

If they come for your gigs, lend you some money to buy instruments, or don't make noise when you sing or play late at night, that's a show of support.

I love music too, and I hope we all can and will continue to do so =)
 
I'm pretty sure most of you have seen this, but for those of who haven't, check it out man. And for those who have seen it, watch it again to motivate yourselves man.

http://www.stomp.com.sg/stompcast/tag24/index_wk1.html

It features some local well-known musicians such as David Tan (eletrico), Linda Ong (lunarin), and many more. These two that I've mentioned particularly touched me.
David Tan's mum wasn't very supportive of him being a "Rocker", but today, he still says he has no regrets.
Linda Ong's parents is likewise too. Coz she is born in a family where his siblings are all lawyers and docs if I'm not wrong. Even though she is a degree graduate, but she is well- known for "a lawyer by day, a rocker for life."

Their spirit and passion towards music earns my greatest respect. And I also respect those who have the guts, spirit and passion to pursue, not just in music, but pursue what they want and make a difference for themselves.

Well, it's inevitable that most parents will not really support their child towards the "Art" thingy mainly bcoz, most of the people grew up being taught that money is one of the most impt things, as everything in this world revolves around this thing call "monetary system". We study so hard from very young till our 20s for what? Not because we really loved studying so much, but for the sake of money. We worked so hard for what? Not because we really love to wake up so early every morning and squeeze into the mrt or buses to work, but it's also for the sake of money. For this world operates using money. And majority of the people would seek for comfort life, luxuries, porsh cars, cards, etc. etc. which to make it simpler, its oso known as material-love/material-life. And it happens that most parents fall into this category because they grew up in such kinda of society. Another thing to take note is that, last time their life are not as easy as ours, not all who wants to study can afford to study. Hence, their mentality in the past are always wishing to have education, then can find job and earn money. They won't even dare to think of other dreams. But right now in our generation, most of us have no prob for education, blah blah blah, hence, our tots no longer jus focuses on study, good job, earn money. In another word is to say that, during their times, they have to worry about basic needs, hence, their mind can't afford to have rooms for other "dreams/passion". But now in our time, we no longer need to worry about our basic needs, hence, we have more rooms in our mind for our "dreams/passion". They were in the era called the Industrial-Age, so their mind-set are all about work-money-work-money, and over the years, this thing is already imprinted into their brain, so we can't blame them for having this kinda mindset. Other than that, most parents would also expect their children to get married eventually, and when marriage comes, babies come, money have to come too. Thats another reason why they are worry for us.

Time have changed, people and mindset had changed as each generation go. So it's pointless to say who is childish and who is mature here, who is short-sighted and who is long-sighted over here. For me, I'd say that life is all about being happy, the process of living your life, and not the results of how rich you are, which income-class are you in, what car you drive, and what kind of housing you live in. Yesh indeed, there are people who go after these so-called the material-life, and there is no right or wrong so long as that thing that you go after will make you happy and brings you no regrets. I just lost a musician friend a month ago. Died from cancer. In his mid 50s. When I visited him in the hospital, despite the fact that he knew his days were numbered, I can see the sparks of happiness and no regrets in his eyes when we talked about his musical journey. And even though people says that music in S'pore is no future, he still managed to buy a 5-room flat and feed his 2 sons and 1 wife up until just. So I told myself, life is really unpredictable as well as short (when you reach your 20s you will know tt time seems to fly very very fast), so I'd never know that the next moment I might be infected by some swine flu and die or what, do I want to leave this world with a smile on my face, or do I want to be like many wealthy man who are so afraid of dying?? One can bring his happiness along with him into his coffin but not his money, landed properties, cards, stocks, cars, etc. etc.

Conclusion, there is no who is right and who is wrong, it's all about choices, what you want in life. No doubt this society operate in such a way that how respectful and sucessful are you is not decided by you, but by others. And these others will judge by how much money you hav, how much cards, big cars, big houses, etc., But to me, everything in this world is created by humans, and they are all just choices. Whether you choose to go with the majority or the minority is all still up to you. And you make damn sure that once you made a certain choice, regardles of sucess or failure, you must have no regrets, and willing to bear the consequences. Every route have consequences, even if you choose to go the parents way of, study hard, find good job in some business sector, and earn many money, there are consequences such as high-stress, lesser time to spend with family, being blinded by material-luxuries and throw parents into old-folks home, etc. etc.

And lastly, I reckon most people here are not so concern about parents not supporting them financially towards music, but rather, their moral support.
 
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Well said, mike. In life, you may want to do this or do that, you may want to take a hike through the mountain, or be a lazybum at home, it is not about right and wrong, but either way time passes and theres no going back and there will be consequences.

Look at Bruce Lee, John Lennon, or it might be some working class hero some Auntie working in a Kopitiam, some of them might not live long, but they definitely made a life worth living, I like to think they are like meteor rain, it might last for a while, but they are definitely the brighest star among the stars.

"life is not what you get but what you do" - Wong Ka Kui, I think life is not what circumstances or environment you are in, rather what you do with that. I prefer to not listen to what people says and crave my own path. The thing about life (for me) is you have to keep moving forward, once you look back and bounded by money and stuff you have to start all over again. I donwan to hit an old age and den when I am fragile and say to myself "I should have done this, this and this." Who knows what might happen tomorrow, but for now I am enjoying my life, even when I am posting this, never be consumed by "past" and "future", but keeping along with the current. I believe if you are focusing in the 'now', future will disclose itself favourably to you. Sorry for being a little off topic here.

Time has pass, I do hope any parent reading this will have a different mindset, we are no longer living in Kampung days, take risk and let us be who we are, I believe in the end you will earn more respect than you expected. I meant no disrespect to anyone, please ignore this if you find it useless.
 
It depends, if a parent pampers a kid then that kid gets full support. There is always the issue of how someone is brought up.

But if your parent's don't support you, I think its because they think the whole music thing is a passing phase. Like what some people would just do when they are a teen.

My parents don't seem to care, they still think i'm better off doing something like rugby or joining some sport team. They sure as hell aren't gonna fork out anything for my gear.
 
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