Paiste PST3/5 Series
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blissuicide
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Helped chose for my student cymbals and settled for the PST3 series. First off, both PST3 and 5 are great beginner and intermediate cymbals. The main difference is tat PST5 has wider frequency range and therefore much more versatile. PST3 tend to lean more on the higher frequency and tend to be better suited for loud music for its bright, slightly trashier and high. So if ur more into rock or punk drumming, its safe to settle for PST3 and hey, its cheaper. But I mus say, I love PST5 and they are much more musical, but then again, tats why they are slightly higher in price. Hope tis helps...
blissuicide
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davenoy said:
101 is crisp, or in actuality utterly bright and clangy due to the brass alloy tat is used. Its not even B8 bronze, therefore it is the least musical of all the Paiste cymbals out there, and the only series that uses brass, thus its cheap pricing. I suggest for u to jus add a lil bit more and settle for 201 as their alloy is bronze, which can be much more versatile than 101. But if u really like the sound characteristics of the 101 then go for it then but jus beware, cos u mite totally dissed it like how i do when hearing it for the first time.
I managed to check out the price for a PST5 18" Rock Crash at Ranking Sports the other day and it was something like $195. I forgot how much the ride and the hats cost. I did try the crash with my finger and it sounds more full bodied and "pingy" compared to my 18" 502 crash. Maybe it'll sound different if I were to use a stick. But I dont think they'd let me do that. Heh. Once I get the crash I'll give you a review aight? Later...
Hi ahpek, are you the same ah pek who was at ranking last time. Heard quite a lot a bout you, but never met you in person. heehee... just curious.
Ok, for Paiste, the 101 series is the cheapest off the shelve product from paiste. But for the price, the sound is pretty decent by my books. Some may even love the sound these produces. Actually this series is off the normal catalogues I have seen so far, lowest current catalogue model is 302 or the PST 3 /5 series.
It's a general purpose set, which I also use for my jamming studio and live sometimes too. Basically it's lasting with decent sound and you won't feel so heart pain to see a 0.5cm crack starting to form.
Imagine seeing a AA in your jamming studio with a 0.5cm crack after a bunch of kids jam trash for 1hour and they only have enough all together to pay for the jam time.
As for the 201, I have heard of it, but yet to see it being sold here.
The PST 3 / 5 series is suppose to give the affordable range a boost with it's classier sound. So as a package it's the next step off from 101.
I dunno how 302 is compared to the PST3, 302 have pretty nice sound, but the crash seem to prefer to be played recording level, does not cut through far.
Ok, for Paiste, the 101 series is the cheapest off the shelve product from paiste. But for the price, the sound is pretty decent by my books. Some may even love the sound these produces. Actually this series is off the normal catalogues I have seen so far, lowest current catalogue model is 302 or the PST 3 /5 series.
It's a general purpose set, which I also use for my jamming studio and live sometimes too. Basically it's lasting with decent sound and you won't feel so heart pain to see a 0.5cm crack starting to form.
Imagine seeing a AA in your jamming studio with a 0.5cm crack after a bunch of kids jam trash for 1hour and they only have enough all together to pay for the jam time.
As for the 201, I have heard of it, but yet to see it being sold here.
The PST 3 / 5 series is suppose to give the affordable range a boost with it's classier sound. So as a package it's the next step off from 101.
I dunno how 302 is compared to the PST3, 302 have pretty nice sound, but the crash seem to prefer to be played recording level, does not cut through far.
ahpek1
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mikemann said:
Yes bro, i'm the same ah pek, was at ranking last time(Anyways, for those who dunno, Ranking, Excel n Theme Music are the same company)
Yep, all the beginners/student level cymbals like the Paiste 101, PST3/5, 302,402, 502etc.. sounded softer and controlled, good for home use. My personal advise, save up abit more, get pro cymbals, nice to your ears, nice to play and you won't get heart-ache playing gigs, jamming at studios etc..
theres alot to choose from Sabian, Zildjian, Paiste, Meinl etc..
Anyways, this is just my personal opinion
Just another general info which has not being mentioned for a while.
You can crack a brand new cymbal if you really hit hard enough. But cymbals used personally should last a liftime, it's how you treat it.
Having my own jamming studio, I have heard my fair shared of a "crying cymbal", which is a cymbal being crash beyond it's threshold. As much as I'd like my cymbals to last forever, I can't help it if the jammer don't know how to play. So I'd play by ear and try to prevent "cymbal trashing" sessions.
You don't need to hit a cymbal real hard for it to sing sweetly and loudly. The right force will yield an optimum volume, more of which will distort it. It's where you hit and how you hit.
A 0.5cm crack will become 2X and 2X and 2X and 2X within a short time. So even a minute crack, means the cymbal is at the doorstep of the grim reaper.
You can crack a brand new cymbal if you really hit hard enough. But cymbals used personally should last a liftime, it's how you treat it.
Having my own jamming studio, I have heard my fair shared of a "crying cymbal", which is a cymbal being crash beyond it's threshold. As much as I'd like my cymbals to last forever, I can't help it if the jammer don't know how to play. So I'd play by ear and try to prevent "cymbal trashing" sessions.
You don't need to hit a cymbal real hard for it to sing sweetly and loudly. The right force will yield an optimum volume, more of which will distort it. It's where you hit and how you hit.
A 0.5cm crack will become 2X and 2X and 2X and 2X within a short time. So even a minute crack, means the cymbal is at the doorstep of the grim reaper.
Funkifized
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I heard that it's possible to save a cracked cymbal by cutting away the affected area. The catch is that you have to saw away the entire perimeter to get a decent sound. so a 2 cm crack = the entire 2cm area all around the cymbal.
ahpek1
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Yep, the best is to sent those crack cymbals to steel companies, they'll cut and file the cymbals nicely for you. 2 years back, i sent a dozen cracked cymbals(for a friend of mine who's running a studio at joochiat) to a steel company at ubi ave and they did it nicely, they charged me 50bucks only.
Theoractically is possible, but the result may not be what you expect. As the sound may change totally. This is because of the varying thickness from the center to the edge which contribute to the sizzle effect. Also the hammering and processes done at manufacturing. So too much trimming of makes the cymbal become like a bell sound.
Also, unless you have lobang to do so cheaply, have to be a real metal works expert. As these although is brass or brass like material, are infact metal alloy, pretty hard stuff. I tried diy during early days, found out the hard way.
Also, unless you have lobang to do so cheaply, have to be a real metal works expert. As these although is brass or brass like material, are infact metal alloy, pretty hard stuff. I tried diy during early days, found out the hard way.
ahpek1
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mikemann said:
Yep, you're right, soundwise, it'll changed. As for my fren, he's running jam studio, so it's ok la, cos, most drummers who went there to jam brought their own cymbals, those without personal cymbals just have to make do with it i guess.
Personally for me, if my cymbals crack, i'll get a new one.
