Nguyen Tuong Van case heats up.

SherT

SherT

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Lest anyone believe our Prime Minister speaks for all Australians in claiming this country's good relations with Singapore would be unaffected by the scheduled judicial murder of our fellow citizen, let me declare for myself that, if it should proceed, I would be obliged to close my accounts with Optus (singtel owned) and avoid any travel which might touch on the state which was once, for a time, my professional base.

A.A. Cane Newtown

lagi style;

Maybe a few government-owned Singapore Airlines flights leaving Australia empty will send a message. Add bouquets of air-freighted Singaporean orchids wilting on florists shelves and Singaporean made computers, telecommunications equipment and musical instruments languishing in retailers' stocks, unsold, for emphasis. Get the picture? In 2004 our exports to Singapore were worth $3.3 billion but we imported nearly twice as much - $6.2 billion. They'll hurt first.

Leo Pomery Rhodes

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pm-turns-up-heat-on-execution/2005/11/20/1132421549230.html

"Mr Howard warned Singapore it should not think the death sentence on Nguyen would go unnoticed in Australia."

http://www.theage.com.au/yoursay1/

So now they think they're the shit eh? :roll:
 
Nguyen Tuong Van was arrested at Changi Airport on 12th December 2002, carrying 397 grams of heroin for a Sydney Drug Syndicate.

His pleas for Clemency have been rejected and he's due to hang next Friday (I think). As usual, with "help" from the mass media, the story is being ballooned and now there's a major debacle between the aussies and us over his punishment.
 
let his death be a warning to all other aussies to not smuggle drugs. for they may face capital punishment. I support our govt's stand on this.
 
This reminds me of Michael Fay, the fella whom Singapore apparently sent back on the plane with 'blood still dripping from his posterior'. I recall one of the American newspapers printing that. personally I'm not against death penalty entirely--just that for drug trafficking it might be a bit harsh. however I do believe that when you go to a country you better know the laws damn well, because you'll be under their jurisdiction. If Australians do boycott Singapore over something like this, they're only punishing the entire country for a crime committed by one of their own. Shows me just how mature they are in their thinking and behaviour.
 
i thought the final solution is the persecution of jews? what does it have to do with this guy?

It sounds like they're threatening us now
 
You traffick drugs, you get hanged. Simple as that. Should we be lenient to people based on their citizenship?

Being Aussie does not give you any right to be given a lighter sentence :roll:
 
it's not as simple as that.

check out the fella's entire story, and his reasons for drug trafficking (he didn't intend to bring it into sg even, was bypassing - if i rem correctly)

before stating your view...
 
The death penalty IS indeed an effective way of controlling drug trafficking here, so I disagree with ixora's view that it's too harsh. I mean look, our drug problem isn't as pronounced as say, America's, am I right? 8) That translates to fewer druggies on the streets, and fewer lives wrecked by substance dependence.

While it is true that Nguyen dcarried drugs as he needed money to foot his bro's legal bill, still, he walked right into it with his eyes open, and he was caught. As such, in my opnion he ought to bear the brunt of his actions.

And as for the aussies boycotting us, it takes only a quick glance into some of these open forums to show us how "Frog at the bottom of a well" (translate that into mandarin) some of the people commenting are.
 
This incident kinda reminds me of the september 11 attacks, where malaysia had led one of the hijackers passed its customs. which malaysia had denied its responsibility.

I guess Singapore dont want that to happen on herself.
 
why blame it on us? laws are laws...

y are aussies so angry? cuz that guy is "innocent"? "forced" to smuggle?

they have to ask themselves who "forced" him to do it 1st...

y bother buycotting sg? if they feel so strongly against this, they should just go kill those bastards who "forced" that poor guy into this...

i'm very sure our govt. will not budge no matter what... this is serious... if our govt. close 1 eye on this case, then not only australian wanna smuggle drugs, but any1 in the rest of the world, will know this loop hole and just repeat such cases next time...

loose a few billion in trade? or stay drug-free and hold a politically strong image? which? i'd say the latter...
 
i think they are just feeling very emotional about it, should wear away over time. They should understand that our law is pretty rigid, doesn't really go soft on pitiful criminals. Aussies love their country a lot, much much more than how much singaporeans love our country, so we wont really understand how strongly they'll feel. Anyway, i think its unlikely any form of boycotts of singaporean products/services will hit us very hard, cos i believe the aussies wont be able to boycott singaporean stuff on such a large scale.

Just that those who want the boycotts are simply a more vocal bunch, doesnt make them the minority. Eg. in australia, there are animal rights activists standing outside KFC outlets distributing flyers promoting a vegetarian lifestyle and telling how bad the KFC chickens are treated before they are slaughtered. But still, KFC still survives in Australia...My conclusion is, the vocal bunch always seems to be the majority, simply because they seem to be everywhere, but they are not necessarily that many in numbers.
 
It's just typical Aussie media ballooning everything up...
The recent michelle leslie case and a while back, this female drug trafficker in Indonesia also got tonnes of media covergage.
 
haha I think it's just typical media blowing everything out of proportion, full stop. As for whether it's too harsh, I think it's effective but too harsh. might sound awful but to me drug trafficking isn't a crime that warrants the death penalty. Maybe America should have that death penalty? lol.
and about the 'frog at the bottom of a well' part--I agree man. I think quite a few of these enraged Australians had never even heard of Singapore before this entire incident.
 
hifi_killer said:
i thought the final solution is the persecution of jews? what does it have to do with this guy?

It sounds like they're threatening us now
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slaughter him. I dislike even more so when the australia govt tries to tell us how to run things. Also, why not blame the australian police for being inefficient? If they dun want him to die, arrest him before he leaves australia then.
 
It's really simple. You break our house rules, you can spank, owned pure and simple. While I fully agree with the sad fact that it's a horrible waste of life, we cannot let all these things destroy our fair and just law system.

The man's brother had a problem, he chose a shortcut solution when there were many ways to it, many legal. By choosing the shortcut, he chose his downfall.
 
ixora05 said:
I think quite a few of these enraged Australians had never even heard of Singapore before this entire incident.
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Sinapore is in China! :lol: :roll:
Well, I think we can't really blame Australia as they do not have capital punishment in their country. So, let's just let this be a lesson to everyone, I guess.
 
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