http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=210064
Hard bypass!
When this hits here, it might knock the Korg DT-10 off!
Hard bypass!
When this hits here, it might knock the Korg DT-10 off!
NEW! Planet Waves HARD BYPASS pedal tuner!
- Thread starter ShredCow
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jf_element
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unsane said:
the top-view pic does look ugly.. but take a look at the slanted one:
similar design/shape of a boss or digitech pedal.. ^^
theblueark
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I'm afraid this is another case of ugly marketing.
The pedal has 2 outputs, one for Bypass and one for Mute, the same as the DT-10.
It is impossible for a true bypassed pedal to do this. Note also the pedal looks like it has FET switching, like the BOSS pedals.
The DT-10 was also claimed to be true bypassed when it first came out, and has since retracted that claim. But too late. Go to any musician forum and do a search and you will hear people spouting that the DT-10 is true bypass. Smart but ugly marketing.
However, true-bypass vs buffered bypass is an ongoing controversy and this Planet Waves stage tuner will be a welcome addition to the choices we have available. But choose it over the DT-10 only if it has a better response, better accuracy and stuff like that. DO NOT choose it because you think it's true bypass.
The DT-10 has a slight edge to me in that it is quite easily moddable to be true bypassed. This one will be as hard as true bypassing BOSS pedals.
Supposed to be out in April. Maybe I'll get one to compare with the DT-10. And also to open it to see what's in the guts.
Read more about Tuners-True Bypass here:
http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/tuners.htm
Read about the 'creative' marketing words design to mislead consumers here:
http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/bypass3.htm
Read more about True Bypass in general here:
http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/bypass.htm
Note that near the start of the page he says this:
"If the broschure says anything other than "True Bypass" (in that order, with no other words in between), assume that the switching is one of the other variants. If it actually says "True Bypass", assume they are lying, and investigate...
Hardwire bypass (sometimes even called "true hardwire bypass"): This only means that the switching isn't electronic. In 90% of the cases, it's the good old half-assed bypass with a buffer section in front, to ease the signal loading. In the final 10%, the pedal simply doesn't have the buffer. For instance, MXR uses a buffer at the start of the effects circuit, which is designed to present a high enough input impedance to be "electrically transparent" - the idea being that the electrons will not even try to move that way, when the bypass line is open. I've even heard Dunlop techs repeatedly refer to this system as True Bypass. Well, it isn't. True Bypass depends on the effects circuit being physically disconnected from the input signal, in bypass mode. But does the Dunlop/MXR system (sometimes referred to as "electronic true bypass" - an oxymoron if I ever heard one) work as intended? Not really - it may be as "invisible" as it wants - it will still drop the overall input impedance the pickups "sees", compared to when it's active (thus changing the tone)."
So it is interesting to note that on the Planet Waves site, they claim that their tuner is True Hard Bypass. Why did they not just say True Bypass? Becuase it isn't.
ShredCow, time to change the title of the topic before people who don't bother to read what's inside get mislead.
DarknessFury
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I don't know...this pedal looks pretty cool to me...but the price...shocking...
theblueark
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DarknessFury said:
Looks like about the same price as the DT-10
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Accessories?sku=214023
Ya the DT-10 is sold at City Music but often out of stock.
theblueark
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ShredCow said:
Call City Music
..1.....2......3
:lol:
The DT-10 was going at $110 if I'm not wrong.
unsane said:
Yeap, its the only TB tuner, but it is without equal out there.
In case anyone is comparing the "strobe" function on the Boss TU2 or the Planetwaves tuner to the Strobostomp, let me reassure you, only the the strobostomp is true strobe. The rest emulate the display and tuning accuracy is no where near a strobe tuner.
I would like to buy the strobo stomp one day.
theblueark
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I find strobe tuning to be a little irritating. Maybe it takes some getting used to. The strobostomp has always been deliciously tempting.
DarknessFury
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Post deleted: I got my answer, =D
