New Paiste series: Twenty

weckl-x

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This is sure to excite a lot of the 602 fans.

Official Paiste press release:

Genuine Twenty Bronze Sound from Paiste

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Nottwil/Switzerland - The renowned Swiss cymbal maker Paiste announces the introduction of «Twenty» cymbals at the 2007 Winter NAMM Show.

In the past half century, Paiste has created pioneering series such as the «Stambul», the «Formula 602», the «2002», and the «Signature», by exploring and employing various alloys for cymbals. Now, Paiste’s continuous search for origin and truth in sound from manually malleable metals leads it back to the original cymbal bronze. For centuries, such legendary 20% bronze, with its primal and archaic sound potency, has been produced in Turkey according to ancient knowledge, and to this day remains the only source for genuine Turkish bronze.

Murat Diril, a cymbal smith from Turkey, has spend his life learning the time-honored art of manufacturing traditional cymbal bronze, and has brought it to a high degree of maturity. Paiste and Diril have now formed a collaboration that combines their respective experience and abilities in a ground-breaking project. For «Twenty» Cymbals, Paiste receives blanks of hand crafted bronze from Murat Diril, which it then treats and refines in Switzerland according to its skills and criteria for sound and function.

In this way, authentic Turkish bronze and world class Swiss craftsmanship come together to create a sensation in the world of cymbals. Not surprisingly, the «Twenty» series features cymbals with pure quality for the demanding requirements of professional drummers and percussionists. Their fundamental sound character is full, rich, warm, silvery and shimmering.

Initially, Paiste is introducing an essential assortment of models, which include the Crash in 16” & 18”, the Ride in 20” & 22”, the China in 16” & 18”, the Splash in 10”, and the Hi-Hat in 13” & 14” sizes.

«Twenty» cymbals, from the alloying to the hammering and lathing of the cymbals, are created entirely by hand according to ancient and traditional methods.
 
kari_convention said:
twenty? Sabian have they own series of XS20. rip off maybe?

Someone I know quoted " The Paiste Dimension is made of B8 Bronze - yet they sound so much better than the Sabian B8 Cymbals - The difference is in Paiste Technological Alloy"...This is very true.

With B20 Alloy.....Paiste new "Twenty Cymbals" will beat...the Sabian XS20 - - FLAT.TTTTTTT....It's been proven.

So how can that be a Rip-Off?...What is a Rip-Off is those Tin-Can Sound from some Cymbals Manufacturer that they call...."Cymbals"...

As quoted - - - «Twenty» cymbals, from the alloying to the hammering and lathing of the cymbals, are created entirely by hand according to ancient and traditional methods. ...Well I hope this is a true statement by Paiste (if it is)...I'll Buy them...Paiste had never disappointed me... :lol:
 
the cymbals are sure to sound damn sweet.
and they have a 2002 look alike stamp, squarish and all.
COOL MAN, but its probably gona be priced around signatures.
 
good things in life doesn't come cheap my friend... for everything else, there's mastercard... but at the end of the month, u still gotta make a trip to ur nearest AXS station and pay the bills.. lol
 
twenty? Sabian have they own series of XS20. rip off maybe?

The only "ripoff" may be the use of the word and concept of 'twenty'. Then again, the metal used is known as B20.

Sabian's XS20s are at best an intermediate line, completely manufactured using computers and machines.

Paiste's Twentys will be a premium line from a premium manufacturer, created by hand, without cutting corners. They'll definitely be unique. Compared to Zildjian's 100% machine/computerised hammering on all their cymbals. :lol:
 
sorry dudes.. i mean the word.. not the whole thing. Paiste should think of a new name and not using twenty for B20.... i mean, its about creativity here. no offence.
 
Weckl......this seems like Paiste is saying that the B20 Bronze are from Turkey (in Sheet Form)..exported then to Switzerland Paiste Factory - - - where the Hammering is done over at Paiste in Switerland......

It also goes to say (if I am not mis-taken) Paiste do not & will not tampered with the Original Bronze Sheet from Turkey.......(which is Not Paiste Patented Bronze)

Hm.mmmm, if that's the case.....I really wonder...if this Paiste B20 Hammering Cymbals (as what they claim TWENTY)...can be as supreme as the Bosphorus, Istanbul etc......

I bet...it's tough for Paiste to penetrate the "Hand-Hammered Cymbal Market Segment"...with their Exhorbitant prices as compared against Bosphorus and many others especially ...MasterWorks.

Paiste has long been well acknowledge due to it's "SIGNATURE BRONZE"...but we are talking about "HAMMERING PROCESS" here..........Which is not their Strength/Focus all the while and definetely not their expertise here - - - I love Paiste...ahhhhhh ! Whatever !...I must try it - Maybe I'll get just a Crash and a Ride if the prices are not too expensive.

Wonder if Ranking will bring them in???????? Call them lah later :lol:

Whahahahaha :lol: :lol: The thought of Paiste...Hammering Cymbals...and making it sound better (using the same B20 Bronze) than other Established-Hand-Hammered-Cymbals-Manufacturer is really questionable...in my opinion.
 
RudimentalDrummer said:
Weckl......this seems like Paiste is saying that the B20 Bronze are from Turkey (in Sheet Form)..exported then to Switzerland Paiste Factory - - - where the Hammering is done over at Paiste in Switerland......

The thought of Paiste...Hammering Cymbals...and making it sound better (using the same B20 Bronze) than other Established-Hand-Hammered-Cymbals-Manufacturer is really questionable...in my opinion.

Hmm, interesting points.

"blanks of hand crafted bronze" - We're not really sure what they define as 'blanks'. It could be cast ingots hammered (Old Ks, Dream bliss) or rolled (like bosphorus) flat. Or already hammered into shape by Murat Diril.

To me, I'd say they're probably blanks hammered into shape, since Paiste dares to claim they're created ENTIRELY by hand.

Then shipped to Switzerland for re-hammering and lathing by Paiste artisans. Just my lousy guess, let's wait for NAMM to find out more!

Those interested can check out the on-going thread at Paiste-only
http://www.paiste-only.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=609
 
I asked Paiste "Is the Twenty a higher end Cymbal as compared to the existing Signature & New Signature because Twenty is using B20 instead of B15 Bronze ?"

The reply was - They do not want to disclose anything now till NAMM. so nobody actually knows if Twenty is cheaper, similar or could be even higher price than New Signature Series?....Just for update
 
It doesnt mean a cymbal is of a much higher end jus cos they are made from B20 alloy. Paiste make do with the B20 bronze way back in 87 cos in their own terms, they invented an alloy which they thought to be of much more versatility and musicality. In terms of pricing, it will neva go beyond tat of the New Signature, which is deemed to be the ultimate Paiste sound.
 
Thanks Bro


The logo like like those 2002 Logo Type.

The Twenty pics (the Hats) Design & looks really look very similar to my Paiste New Signature Mark I Hats..except for the Logo of course. So, I have a feeling...just guessing that the TWENTY could be Higher Price than 2002...but less than New Signature...as I say I'm only guessing...
 
haha man the paiste Twenty rocks man the sample bliss put up.. wooo cool cymbals i like.. haha wonder when and how much they will cost in sg
 
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