Need help badly!! :d
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teokiatuan
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eh same here leh.
i think compression will help my case, but for drums...maybe different kit problem?
hmm...
are you nervous?
hmm...
i think compression will help my case, but for drums...maybe different kit problem?
hmm...
are you nervous?
hmm...
Sainty13
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yea i think i agree with KAYTEE! HAHA i think im too use to my kit MAN!! darn it!! haiz i dunno man just like i sit down on the set that is provided at the studio and play i just cant seems to apply the techique that i use to do at home MAN... Haiz so sian.... feel so NOOBSHIT MAN! LOL
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tpiledriver
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stay cool and hit the drums like you hit your enemies!
Hit it hard and ROCK N ROLL!!
Hit it hard and ROCK N ROLL!!
Hi here is some of my guess,
1) Maybe u are playing much faster when u jam, compared with what u practised. So u are unable to catch up with the speed.
Happens to me when the guitarist plays fast like above 130. They don't feel the speed because they play lead/soloing and can come in as and when they are comfortable, with short bursts of rifts . However I am riding eighth notes and filling in sixteenth notes. At that speed its quite alot of work for me.
If u have a metronome practice at home and take note the speed u are practicing at. At the studio, tell ur band to play at that speed.
One more point to share. I realise that when i play with my band, our musical ideas/vocab are very little. So our music don sound very interesting or fun. As such we play faster and faster to make the music sound better and have more energy(fun). End result we play very fast, get tired and not satisfied.
2) If u are excecuting a fill-in, maybe u might have counted into the wrong bar, thus disrupting your groove.
3) I'm sure the positioning of ur set and the studio's set is different. U can try either take time to reposition the studio's set beore jamming or position ur set like the studio's one.
I place my crash cymbals high (eye level)so when i play i force myself to stretch and reach. Helps with moving around the set. Got this tip from plainsman.
4) The skin tension of the studio's set may be much less than ur set. So u get very little rebound when u jam. This make the feel very different and so u find difficulty excecuting what u practised.
Cheers!
1) Maybe u are playing much faster when u jam, compared with what u practised. So u are unable to catch up with the speed.
Happens to me when the guitarist plays fast like above 130. They don't feel the speed because they play lead/soloing and can come in as and when they are comfortable, with short bursts of rifts . However I am riding eighth notes and filling in sixteenth notes. At that speed its quite alot of work for me.
If u have a metronome practice at home and take note the speed u are practicing at. At the studio, tell ur band to play at that speed.
One more point to share. I realise that when i play with my band, our musical ideas/vocab are very little. So our music don sound very interesting or fun. As such we play faster and faster to make the music sound better and have more energy(fun). End result we play very fast, get tired and not satisfied.
2) If u are excecuting a fill-in, maybe u might have counted into the wrong bar, thus disrupting your groove.
3) I'm sure the positioning of ur set and the studio's set is different. U can try either take time to reposition the studio's set beore jamming or position ur set like the studio's one.
I place my crash cymbals high (eye level)so when i play i force myself to stretch and reach. Helps with moving around the set. Got this tip from plainsman.
4) The skin tension of the studio's set may be much less than ur set. So u get very little rebound when u jam. This make the feel very different and so u find difficulty excecuting what u practised.
Cheers!
jeepers
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technique is technique. if you've got it, it's there.
if you're not comfortable with the studio set up, why do you continue playing anyway. adjust till you're comfortable. bring your own gear if it helps. i bring my own snare (sometimes), cymbals and pedal always. a quick tune up of the studio kit wont do any harm either.
don't blame the studio equipment 'cos you don't wanna bring your own gear.
and why bother what others think. you'd rather sacrifice a good jam session for the image people you don't even know would have of you? fail.
0.02, my apologies if i sound harsh.
if you're not comfortable with the studio set up, why do you continue playing anyway. adjust till you're comfortable. bring your own gear if it helps. i bring my own snare (sometimes), cymbals and pedal always. a quick tune up of the studio kit wont do any harm either.
don't blame the studio equipment 'cos you don't wanna bring your own gear.
and why bother what others think. you'd rather sacrifice a good jam session for the image people you don't even know would have of you? fail.
0.02, my apologies if i sound harsh.
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spinninsticks
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I too sometimes feel that I don't perform/play as well as I do at home while in the studio, and thats probably due to me making more effort to pay attention to what my band mates and doing and adapting accordingly.
Unlike jamming, playing alone allows you to focus just on yourself (or sometimes the music when you're playing along to a track) and probably thats why you can exercute your skills more effortlessly.
I'm also one of those guys that bring my own gear to jamming bcos I get very angry if the studio's gear are not working too well. I even bring my pedals out the whole day before going to my jam sessions at night sometimes. I don't find that weird at all.
Unlike jamming, playing alone allows you to focus just on yourself (or sometimes the music when you're playing along to a track) and probably thats why you can exercute your skills more effortlessly.
I'm also one of those guys that bring my own gear to jamming bcos I get very angry if the studio's gear are not working too well. I even bring my pedals out the whole day before going to my jam sessions at night sometimes. I don't find that weird at all.
jasper hey relax dude, dun go so hard on the guy. its true that u shld always adjust the kit to u and never adjust urself to the kit. all the points said are valid by tht other guy. once ur uncomfortable for any reason u do a number of things like slowly down or speeding up. the key is too always stay relaxed. when u practice focus on being relaxed. u will bring tht state of mind into ur jams. playing a a foreign kit is always tough, but as jasper said to an extent technique is technique. wat u need is to get ur base technique up. on ur shittest day u will still do okie. u get wat i mean?
tpiledriver
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Oh ya bring ur own pedals would help alot.
Response to tpiledriver: No offence to you. But i must give a Warning!
Please DO NOT hit the drums like u hit ur enermies BECAUSE u WILL injure ur wrist/hands. Dont need to hit too hard.
But must play hard!
i said hard, i didnt say very hard.haha
DullTheater
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funny leh.....
for my case ah, its due to the bad pedals they haf in the studio, that suddenly my feet able to adapt faster to my own..
hmm...
i really dont know how to explain, but i gif credits to that bad pedals for wat i'm able to play now...
anyway, why be afraid to just bring your pedals around for jamming?
i brought my pedals for jamming too..... its a good way to exercise your feets and adapt to your own pedals wat...
due to becoz i want great feel of my pedals, i intend to want to have great feels and sounds for my cymbals, and so i brought my own cymbals too...
and due to studio usualli doesnt haf enough stands for mi, and also due to my special cymbals
and drumsticks i rather use my own, as i nowadays playing more of 5B, rather than wat they usuallie provide.. and i wudnt want to keep on paying them for the sticks dat i eventuallie will break.. hahahahah.....
so in the end i bring everything.....
hmmm..... am i toking out of context here?
anyway, dont be afraid to move around the set at studios if u need to , so as to adjust to your own liking of playing so that you like wat you play and can play wat you practice at home....
dont be afraid to bring your own things, even if its just as small as a splash, coz sometimes due to that special one thing, can make u feel better and thus play better...
dont be afraid if ppl stare at you, take it as a challenge instead to always make you play better... and if they think that you are a noob, den let them... coz deep down inside... really deep down inside.. you know that youre not...
just let them be shallow, let them judge you exteriorly.. and surprise them wif your playing...
ps: somehow, i think i'm just blabbering nonsense here.... haiz.. you get wat i mean ah...
for my case ah, its due to the bad pedals they haf in the studio, that suddenly my feet able to adapt faster to my own..
hmm...
i really dont know how to explain, but i gif credits to that bad pedals for wat i'm able to play now...
anyway, why be afraid to just bring your pedals around for jamming?
i brought my pedals for jamming too..... its a good way to exercise your feets and adapt to your own pedals wat...
due to becoz i want great feel of my pedals, i intend to want to have great feels and sounds for my cymbals, and so i brought my own cymbals too...
and due to studio usualli doesnt haf enough stands for mi, and also due to my special cymbals
and drumsticks i rather use my own, as i nowadays playing more of 5B, rather than wat they usuallie provide.. and i wudnt want to keep on paying them for the sticks dat i eventuallie will break.. hahahahah.....
so in the end i bring everything.....
hmmm..... am i toking out of context here?
anyway, dont be afraid to move around the set at studios if u need to , so as to adjust to your own liking of playing so that you like wat you play and can play wat you practice at home....
dont be afraid to bring your own things, even if its just as small as a splash, coz sometimes due to that special one thing, can make u feel better and thus play better...
dont be afraid if ppl stare at you, take it as a challenge instead to always make you play better... and if they think that you are a noob, den let them... coz deep down inside... really deep down inside.. you know that youre not...
just let them be shallow, let them judge you exteriorly.. and surprise them wif your playing...
ps: somehow, i think i'm just blabbering nonsense here.... haiz.. you get wat i mean ah...
Sainty13
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HAHA its ok man dun worry's i get wat u mean and not been offend by you dude cuz i just wan hear tips from u guys out there as drummers well i guess all drummers have come across this type of problem so just wanna hear how you guys do it thats all no worries man! haha
Did you practise those technique with a metronome at home? reason for asking is because sometime when you practise those real technical stuffs by yourself, you might not realise that your timing is all over the place, hence when you play it with your band, you will find that you are struggling to keep up with time.
chrisxtremes
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One comment. The noob equipments are the things that makes your playing improve more. U are too pampered by having the good stuff already. If U can use the shittiest equipment and perform at 80%, U are almost there. U have to adapt with whatever equipment U are given.
plainsman
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its kind of cool sometimes to sit down at a jam studio and observe the last drummer's setup, e.g. height of toms, cymbals, snare angle, tuning etc.
this is one thing that makes me look forward to going into a jamming studio. from there, i get clues to others preferences and often makes me wonder what makes them tick.
quite a number of stuffs i've adapted to my own over the years.
in this way, i've often been able to use almost any sort of gear, any sort of tuning, tension settings. i can also kind of understand a drummer's technique range because of the drum settings.
yes, i actually do adapt myself to the kit. while it is definitely not as strong as when using my natural setup, it allows me to be more versatile, adaptable and forces me to expand my skills to be able to play almost any sort of repertoire on almost any sort of setup.
i'm still working on the ultimate levels.. as blakey would say, "are you playing the drums, or is the drums playing you?"
cheers!
this is one thing that makes me look forward to going into a jamming studio. from there, i get clues to others preferences and often makes me wonder what makes them tick.
quite a number of stuffs i've adapted to my own over the years.
in this way, i've often been able to use almost any sort of gear, any sort of tuning, tension settings. i can also kind of understand a drummer's technique range because of the drum settings.
yes, i actually do adapt myself to the kit. while it is definitely not as strong as when using my natural setup, it allows me to be more versatile, adaptable and forces me to expand my skills to be able to play almost any sort of repertoire on almost any sort of setup.
i'm still working on the ultimate levels.. as blakey would say, "are you playing the drums, or is the drums playing you?"
cheers!
