Indigo_blues
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Anyone here using this? Thinking of getting one. Interface between our Yamaha M7CL and a Mac.
M Audio Profire Lightbridge
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Indigo_blues
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I'm in touch with Gordon from Yamaha.. yes planning to get the MY16-AT. I think we can install 2 of those in the M7CL for 32 channels of adat out if I am not wrong. The lightbridge can take in the 32 adat channels and feed them via firewire to the Mac.
However the only issue now is the Protools M Powered seems to be able to only record max 18 tracks per session at a go.
Wonder if some other software on the Mac can do a higher simultaneous track count. Anyone any experience in this area?
On an average sunday we have about 19 to 20 channels on.
I saw this nice youtube video on the above setup so I think its definitely workable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUptApwZhT8
However the only issue now is the Protools M Powered seems to be able to only record max 18 tracks per session at a go.
Wonder if some other software on the Mac can do a higher simultaneous track count. Anyone any experience in this area?
On an average sunday we have about 19 to 20 channels on.
I saw this nice youtube video on the above setup so I think its definitely workable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUptApwZhT8
Yes, Pro Tools M-Powered can only record 18 tracks at a time. You could consider getting Logic Pro if your budget permits.
The other solution would be to sub-mix some of your channels together and feed them out of some spare mix sends on the board. For example, you could sub-mix your drums down a couple of mix sends or sub-mix stereo inputs like keyboards down a mix send. Of course this is not ideal if you wanna have full control over every individual input coming into your board but I guess it's a workable solution if you're really gonna be stuck with 18 tracks max in PTMP.
The other solution would be to sub-mix some of your channels together and feed them out of some spare mix sends on the board. For example, you could sub-mix your drums down a couple of mix sends or sub-mix stereo inputs like keyboards down a mix send. Of course this is not ideal if you wanna have full control over every individual input coming into your board but I guess it's a workable solution if you're really gonna be stuck with 18 tracks max in PTMP.
Indigo_blues
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Yup I was checking of the specifications for Logic Studio and Logic Express from the Apple website but it doesn't say the maximum tracks the software can record at one go. This is why I'm checking on this forum.
If it can do more than 20 tracks then that will be the solution.
The M7CL has 8 matrix busses in addition to 16 aux busses so if cannot do more than 16 tracks then can probably go with combining the channels before sending out like you suggested. But just that a bit more work and thought need to be put into it. More complicated for recording personnel also.
If it can do more than 20 tracks then that will be the solution.
The M7CL has 8 matrix busses in addition to 16 aux busses so if cannot do more than 16 tracks then can probably go with combining the channels before sending out like you suggested.
But just that a bit more work and thought need to be put into it. More complicated for recording personnel also.
Indigo_blues
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I suppose the other consideration if the computer cannot physically record more than 18 tracks at a go (limited by hardisk access speed) then the point is moot. 
Maybe we should just go with 1 MY16AT card and protools M powered 1st. If this is the case, then I think it be more useful to get the Profire 2626 instead since that can do 16 tracks adat plus it comes with 8 mic pres.
Maybe we should just go with 1 MY16AT card and protools M powered 1st. If this is the case, then I think it be more useful to get the Profire 2626 instead since that can do 16 tracks adat plus it comes with 8 mic pres.
I would strongly recommend going for a Logic rig rather than PTMP. You'll have access to a whole lot more software effects and plugins when mixing. I mean, you don't wanna be stuck with D-Verb all the time do you.
And with Logic, you won't have to worry about the 18 input limit on PTMP. We record 32 channel multi-track audio every weekend. The rig we have is something like this.
PM5D > 2 RME Digiface units > Power Mac G5 running Logic Pro
And with Logic, you won't have to worry about the 18 input limit on PTMP. We record 32 channel multi-track audio every weekend. The rig we have is something like this.
PM5D > 2 RME Digiface units > Power Mac G5 running Logic Pro
Indigo_blues
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Wow cool! Thanks for the answer man!
Any idea if Logic Express is good enough (budget) or should we be getting Logic Studio? Think there is a big price difference!
We are still groping our way in the dark in this...
Any idea if Logic Express is good enough (budget) or should we be getting Logic Studio? Think there is a big price difference!
We are still groping our way in the dark in this...
Indigo_blues
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btw is this the RME digiface you guys are using?
http://www.rme-audio.com/english/hdsp/digifa.htm
Also using ADAT?
I'm asking because Sinamex is totally out of stock for the Maudio stuff. We're trying to get the system up and running asap.
http://www.rme-audio.com/english/hdsp/digifa.htm
Also using ADAT?
I'm asking because Sinamex is totally out of stock for the Maudio stuff. We're trying to get the system up and running asap.
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I'll just quote Wiki regarding Logic Express vs Logic Pro.
Logic Pro and Express share most functionality and the same interface. Logic Express is limited to two-channel stereo mixdown, while Logic Pro can handle multichannel surround sound; Logic Express also lacks support for TDM/DAE systems, high-end control surfaces and Distributed Audio Processing. Both can handle up to 255 audio tracks, depending on system performance (CPU, hard disk throughput and seek time). Logic Express 8 comes with 36 software instruments and 73 effect plug-ins, including almost all of those in the Logic Pro Package. Those that it doesn't include are Sculpture, a physical modelling synthesiser; the "vintage" instruments (the EVB3 tonewheel organ, the EVD6 Clavinet and the EVP88 Electric Piano), however a cut down version of these is included with the Garageband instruments; Space designer, a convolution reverb effect; and delay designer, an advanced delay effect.
Yes, that's the Digiface. Check it out on RME's main website.
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_digiface.php
RME stuff isn't cheap though. You might wanna check out something like the Presonus FireStudio Lightpipe if you're on a budget.
http://presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=54
Logic Pro and Express share most functionality and the same interface. Logic Express is limited to two-channel stereo mixdown, while Logic Pro can handle multichannel surround sound; Logic Express also lacks support for TDM/DAE systems, high-end control surfaces and Distributed Audio Processing. Both can handle up to 255 audio tracks, depending on system performance (CPU, hard disk throughput and seek time). Logic Express 8 comes with 36 software instruments and 73 effect plug-ins, including almost all of those in the Logic Pro Package. Those that it doesn't include are Sculpture, a physical modelling synthesiser; the "vintage" instruments (the EVB3 tonewheel organ, the EVD6 Clavinet and the EVP88 Electric Piano), however a cut down version of these is included with the Garageband instruments; Space designer, a convolution reverb effect; and delay designer, an advanced delay effect.
Yes, that's the Digiface. Check it out on RME's main website.
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_digiface.php
RME stuff isn't cheap though. You might wanna check out something like the Presonus FireStudio Lightpipe if you're on a budget.
http://presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=54
Indigo_blues
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Ok will check out the Presonus too. Thanks man!
Indigo_blues
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Ok thanks so much!!
You can get Logic Express with basic mix tool, but the plug-in in the Logic Studio are enough to cut profe$$ional mix and a CD mastering software. Also a delicated film scoring software that found in Final Cut too. Pretty all in one package, not like PT you still need to buy some more plug-in. Also you buy Express and upgrade later with paying the price difference between Express and Studio version.
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Indigo_blues
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Yes thanks. I'm going with Hardpan's suggestion to get the Logic. Think Logic Express is enough for our needs at the moment.
Yes we can always upgrade to Logic Studio later if need. Think this is the best choice.
