Local radio chart should be implemented

[parablue74]

This is an idea which i have, and i´m willing to give it out. It´s hardly ever tried even from my research of what´s happening in other countries.

I feel there should be a local radio station and radio chart made just for local artist, this would definately push up the appeal for local music, aside from people hearing about American Top 40´s or the likes from UK all the time. I feel it should be based on non-profit and sponsored by PAP, in the interest of investing on the music and arts industry in Singapore. Building an Esplanade cost millions+ , which is well useful, but in the end overseas acts get the appeal of performances again.

A radio station and radio chart for local artist would give Singaporeans a higher appeal and moltivation to accept their local music and bring about a more competitive awareness among local acts.
:wink:

http://www.mp3.com.au/parablue

 

[ovid]

Wouldn´t really work as the playlists that broadcast stations use are pre-determined. Songs get on the playlist and sometimes, they don´t get off.

This means a song from the 80´s could conceivably ( and in the case of 95.0FM it´s true) stay ´on the charts´.

The problem you are adressing, may I suggest, is cultural and is not likely to be solved until the PAX AMERICANA has run it´s course.

 

[parablue74]

Thanks for the reply!

It´s a sad fact that this toil is a hard one, since this country aims so much about financial wealth instead of the chase for artistic pursuits. Slots in many main radio stations are bought by big record companies, giving the factual understanding that capitalism will always rule. Yet when i was in Australia, PBS constantly play local music, from metal(the most unheard of genre!), to dance. PBS being a community radio station is a non-profit company with basis targeted at the Australian music community, and turn out to be one of the most popular radio stations in Australia. In some way, i believe that it´s due to it´s existence that Australia have become known as the "Land of Electronic Music".

 

[soft]

Actually,there´s www.passion995.org.sg

They have a SINGAPORE JAM (9am to 11am) that delivers Singapore music of today, with reviews and interviews with the music-makers themselves.

 

[ovid]

Frankly i do not know of a country where radio isn´t ´rigged´. It´s how you use it to your advantage. NZ and OZ have a local music quota implemented in different ways. NZ has a NZ music month and OZ has a fixed percentage quota of local music that must be broadcast.

>Ever since Frank Sinatra was a young crooner, radio has been ´fixed´. In the UK, the charts are also ´manipulated´ - more so now than ever before.

I do not mean to imply any nefarious dealings, but there is no perfect system of measuring true popularity, sales or quality - given the various categorisations, perks and insider relations etc... it ´s a complex web.

A case in point is the BBCs TOTP (Top of the pops). No longer will you have a christmas song say by Cliff Richard as the annual Xmas best seller as the material is no longer part of TOTP programming nor target audience. In years past, a christmas song was always number one this time of year because it sold across three generations. Now TOTP reflects a teenage band of one generation.

In the US Billboard charts had a problem because it was calculated from scans in shops and shop assistants would multi scan an item without an actual sale......

Charts do not really reflect anything except that a table calculated in a certain way ( with many exclusions). If you like a tune, you like it - charts don´t really mean much.

Even a grammy award is also a refelction of sales in a particular sector - geographical and social.

 

[silent]

WHO DO U THINK U R TO COMLAINT?

 

[parablue74]

Who are u to talk here!!

 

[silent]

WHO AM I? U WANT TO KNOW? ASK YOUR GILFRIEND, BUT I THINK U DUN HAVE ANY, HAHAHA!

 

[parablue74]

This the exact kind of reaction that seems to undermined the local scene. The ppl in Singapore just don´t react well to their own artist and musicians. It´s like they don´t even look up to themselves well enuff to be credited as worthy of any mark. From the number of depressive souls drags on and spread this low mentality, pushing everyone in dementation, especially those involved. But art is not about hitting the mark, but the pursuit of relaxation, jus sitting down and enjoying the moment would really make the feeling better rather the putting your minds to judge. Then you can open your eyes to a new perception and see things different. This is how the public scene should work, U enjoy, artist enjoy, artist perform better, U enjoy more. Competition go up, Market grow stronger.

 

[reqx]

Not very silent at all huh? :lol:

I was once told that a local mag coined the phrase "anything made in singapore is crap". It was a direct reference to some local music reviewed i think.

It always made me wonder how a few of my more fortunate peers could invest heavily in their gears, wardrobe, and CD collections yet feel very little for what other musicians are churning out. To a certain extent, I guess its good ignorance that can possibly spawn originality at different levels, but I tend to agree with Para on how attitudes managed to eventually and consistently crumple potential flight plans for the scene.

I remember BigO´s charts previously. Something like that should have maximum support rather than unconstructive scrutiny. If there´re more charts, I´ll definitely support them! 8)

 

[Colarndo]

Ai Yo' Looks like it's damn sad. No one wants to become a full time musican without worrying abt bread and butter issues. We were brought up in the paper chase environment. Isn't it ironic that while we only have people resources to rely on, we can't have musicians to rely on to boost our economy.
I certainly wouldn't mind seeing home made guitar brands/amps come up and get hot in the international market.

 

[atee]

actually...

the majority of the listening population are more of the 'trend' kinds of people. they listen to what everyone listens to.

there aren't many bands who have the time and money to actually record something in a studio, usually they just play gigs and stuff.

since there are not many who have decent songs to be played on radio, even if one was opened it would also play mostly songs from other countries.

it's not easy to just open a radio station like that, it costs money. of no one is really interested in it and there aren't many songs to begin with... it wouldn't last long.

haha. i dunno.

 

[hifi_killer]

my 2 cents

i was thinking, if we can have a phua chu kang that rivals friends on local tv,i dun see y we cant do the same for local radio stations?
all we need is some Singaporean Idol show, or some academy of music, to actually "manufacture" local muisc talents just like the mediacorp produce the actors.

While manufactured music may not be such nice thing to some of u guys, it'll be instrumental in broadening up/brainwashing the people's mindset to support local music and to create the "interest" in local music. Only then.. all u rockers can come in.

 

[Colarndo]

Well I guess we can't always rely on the government.....

 

[brundisium]

rely on government/radio station/media to promote local music?? Hmmm, i think they would be more concern on how to increase birthrate, provide jobs for the unemployed, how to attract back the investors that rather set up plant in a 3rd world country, the livehood, interest of singaporean rather then promote music, arts and such. Money talks here, anything that dont bring in $, dont expect anything to be done. Sad, but this is life here.

15 yrs ago, local music scene is mostly DIY, right now, its like that also. The scene is out there, if you believe that it does exist. Instead of promoting till everyone whether serious or just following trend go into it. I rather that local music, band music remain something that if you are interested enough, you will go find out yourself or thru word of mouth.

 

[SoNiC-FiDeLiTY]

Hi guys, just my 2 cents regarding local music.

I feel that not many artists and musicians made it in the local English music. There are success stories of Chinese pop artists though. Like Stephanie Sun, Tanya Chua, Kit Chan, Stella Ng, Ah Du, Lin Jun Jie etc. Our country consisting of mainly Chinese contributes to the buying power of Chinese music albums. Our regional music industries with Taiwan and HK being the leads are stepping this further up. You can see that Chinese artists get popular usually after releasing their albums in Taiwan. Once they are regonized in Taiwan, the local audience usually are more willing to accept the artists. Tanya initially also started off singing English songs but later on she also had to cut Chinese albums where she got more popular then.

I'm not being racist of anything. Just feel that the buying power of the Chinese music market is stronger.

 

[ovid]

Well that much is true for Sales in SG. Many years ago we fixed for an english language pop band to be in the charts, on TV, in the press, radio rotation, Zouk opening, Big O COVER, etc etc... it was fixed for these boys, but all they sold was about 1000 Cds. This was the norm for a good english language 'band'. We did it as an experiment to prove a point that the market was pretty much that; you really could not go further than that. The max would be 3500 if at all. These seemed to be the figures for all the local rif raff pop music types, X ' Ho etc....the garage type bands... well good luck to them... they typically recover sales of max 250 albums.

The best of radio friendly boy and girl lurve song pop mush in English in SG sells about 3500, and maxes at 7000 - iconic pop singer types, and those figures are for the life of the CD.

Pearl jam would sell 15000 max. Madonna and M Jackson about 50000.


In contrast, a stinker of a chinese language album, will still sell 10 000; and any hong kong singer averages 50 - 100000 in sales. Your mega HK singer star stypes will sell about 250 000.

Any muso in it for a living, will move to the chinese language operation, whether you speak the language or not. Several top composers, players, arrangers etc don't have faciltiy with the language but still work in it as that is the reality of the market.

The market in greater scale now includes Thai and Vietnam....great potential.

 

[gordonzz]

aiyah guys.. theres so many threads before talking about various topics of singapore music. but one is for sure that is to improve and bring local music to a higher and better peak. but i think theres no use discussing it here if no one actually do something about it..

i agree postin threads to ask pple support local cds would help too.. but not much.. aiya.. to me this is just another typical type of thread to 'help' singapore music that gonna fade soon..

peace out lar.. :wink:

 

[hifi_killer]

i think cd sales isnt THAT important now, considering the mp3 technology and p2p softwares. People buy one cd, rip the tracks, send to friends on msn or upload it to p2p. And besides, during pearl jam and jacko times, the only way people could listen to their music was to buy the cd and of course the radio.

I think the local music is definitely progressing, you can see very significant improvements for urself

 

[gordonzz]

i think cd sales isnt THAT important now, considering the mp3 technology and p2p softwares.

but since you said about mp3 and radio.. u wanted people to listen to our local music more.. only? of cos you want them to show their support by buying the cd too. if your talkin abt being heard only.. yes, radio counts. but cd sales is important, better sales make record company and label sign more local bands.. aint that a faster way?