How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul

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This is a GREAT post found on MLP.

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/tonefreaks/48038-how-use-controls-les-paul.html

First, your volume controls do not just control your loudness, but also your level of distortion (‘gain’ or ‘overdrive’). If your guitar has modern wiring, lowering the volume will also reduce the available treble, as if you’d turned the tone down too. If you have 1950s wiring this effect is far less prominent.

Secondly, your tone control not only cuts your treble, it also reduces the amount of ‘space’ your guitar seems to take up in the mix. Turning your tone down can effectively pull you ‘back’ into the mix.

Enough basics. Here’s some pointers.

EQ Your Amp for the Neck
Most of the time you’ve probably set up your amp for a good tone from the bridge. Try this instead and see what happens.

1. Turn all your volumes and tones up to 10.
2. Select the neck pick up.
3. Adjust your amp so you get a good soloing tone for that pickup.
4. Switch to bridge. This will be too bright. Ice-pick through ear territory.
5. Tame bridge with tone control, until you’ve got a good soloing tone.

You now have your ‘boost’ sounds. Now turn the bridge vol down (about 75-80%), until you’ve got a good crunching rhythm sound. If you have modern wiring you may need to turn up the tone a little at this stage. You could now play the rhythm on the bridge, and switch to the neck for the solo.

Solo on Bridge, cleans on Neck
Turn up your bridge tone and vol. That’s your solo sound (ice pick and all). Turn your neck vol down to about 50%. If your amp is any good, that should be nearly clean. If you’ve got 1950s wiring, it won’t be muddy either. You may now play the intro to Since I’ve Been Lovin’ You on the neck pick up. Switch to bridge for the signature lick. Back to neck, or turn down bridge to 50-60%. For a more sensible bridge pick up sound, just turn the tone down a fraction to clip some of the hairs off it.

If your amp is good, it should be sensitive enough to clean up when you turn down, and also to clean up if you back off with your right hand an pick gently. Use both these effects to control your tone.

Middle positions

Leave your bridge in its rhythm setting, then switch to middle. Now turn down the neck to nearly nothing, then slowly turn it back up (to about 50%). Somewhere across this range you’ll hear three fairly distinct tones. It’ll start out sounding like the bridge on its own. Next, it will fill out (i.e. get some extra bass), and it might do this quite suddenly. This is a really useful sound for soloing, because it basically sounds like the bridge pickup, but it’s fuller and meatier without being in any way muddy. As you keep turning up the neck vol it will start to sound more like both pick ups. This can be sort of nasal, but quite good.

Once you get both pick ups to the same vol (~ 75%) you’ve got the classic middle sound. Many people find this a bit muddy, but if you EQd the amp for your neck pick up, you should be OK.

Also for the middle position:

If you set your neck so it’s basically clean (~ 50%), and then set the bridge to about 75%, that will give you the sounds-like-the-bridge-pickup-but-fuller tone. As I said before, that’s a good rhythm or lead sound.

From that basic position, if you want to get a boost, all you have to do is adjust ONE volume control up to 100%. Either will work. If the bridge, you get the biting sound, if the neck you get the fuller sound. When you’ve finished, simply turn that volume back to where it was.

Now admit it... how many of you went "aha! so THATS how it's done!" when you were reading this post?:twisted:

I know I did...
 
took you that long huh. problem i see is most people dont know how to do that cos they spend way too long tweaking everything else, pedals, amp, cables, true bypass til they forget how to even play their guitar, how the tone and volume control works with the pickups and affects the sound in general.
 
i've been hanging around there as well.

i've learn ALOT of things and the amount of knowledge i've learnt is pretty vast. its a great place actually. its much less gas inducing than TGP also.
 
well that should work for strats if u have one tone control for neck and middle and one for bridge. strat pickups are a lil more sensitive to change, so ull also have to factor in the pickup heights. best is always to have your amp loud, not at bedroom volumes where theres alot of 'perceived' tone which isnt really what it seems. then once u have good volume going, play and adjust according to taste. do take note, try to vary as much as possible to find good balances. like switch to your neck pickup. hear how it reacts with drive, play high up on the neck on thin strings, then high up on the neck on thicker strings, then low on the neck on the thin and low on the neck on the thicker strings. then repeat for middle and bridge. all this time u should be adjusting pickup heights and tone controls to see what u like. this might take days to work out but in the end you definitely will be much happier with your setup than say just going out to buy a new pedal to 'solve' your problems.
 
its much less gas inducing than TGP also.

Who says so??? My latest LP acquisition is thanks to that place! After seeing so many nice burst standards, I couldn't help myself!

took you that long huh. problem i see is most people dont know how to do that cos they spend way too long tweaking everything else, pedals, amp, cables, true bypass til they forget how to even play their guitar, how the tone and volume control works with the pickups and affects the sound in general.

Hahaha... Tell me abt it man... I've been tweaking the wrong knobs! :P But the way this guy explains it and the method he's using is something pretty new to me. i've never considered using my controls that way.
 
I've always played around with tone and volume but not like how he does it.Simply brilliant.
 
Who says so??? My latest LP acquisition is thanks to that place! After seeing so many nice burst standards, I couldn't help myself!

well for me, if i dont have the cash, i cant gas for one. as much as i would like one, its just too far out of reach. TGP on the other hand, is more like a place for pedals, and other less expensive items. i can just pawn one of my pedals to buy another one i'm gassing for. i don't have the discipline to save up long long months to buy an R9, if i had cash to spend, then thats a different story. I'm still a student btw..

I just go over to MLP to read. and read.. and feel jealous once in a while.
 
I see you stay away from the "Small Luthier's Thread"? :twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

hahahha I do once in a while, not stay away completely. but like i said, i dont have much guitar gas, due to lack of funds.. whatever it is, TGP, MLP both fun places to hang out. just that i've gained more technical knowledge from MLP.
 
yeaps i've using some of that method for quite some time now. nowadays for the song "still got the blues". i dont know but i keep playing that song for awhile now.

my case:
i use pre-boost with OD for rhythm picking. it's loud itself so vol knob is at 2-3 for more cleanup and vol balance. why pre-boost? cause i need it for nice stack for solo.
i add distortion for solo vol knob is full. adds more guitar output, but less treble with tone knob at 3. ok not so "technical" lah.

yeah amps or pedals that respond well with guitar vol knobs is a plus. for my dist pedal, i can go oasis to acdc to van halen type of gain just by using the guitar knob.

but as with many other stock guitar knobs and pots, 1-3 big difference, 4-10 little difference.
still i wish for a more responsive vol knob. heard about the RS superpots. any comments? hope not to stray from thread topic. hehe.
 
but as with many other stock guitar knobs and pots, 1-3 big difference, 4-10 little difference.
still i wish for a more responsive vol knob. heard about the RS superpots. any comments? hope not to stray from thread topic. hehe.

not only pots with a good taper is crucial. if u read the first post, the extract from MLP forum, 50s wiring is crucial also. its not very nice when u want to roll down ur volume knob u lose alot of highs and the tone muddies up. i used to face that problem alot and it turned me off playing with the volume knob.

back to pots, volume pots on guitars are audio taper pots. if u rmb ur A maths, the increase in output is an exponential curve. thats why u mentioned 1-3 big difference, and 4-10 hardly any difference.

RS superpots are neither audio taper pots nor linear pots. they are of a custom taper, made by CTS. the custom taper is really really useful, from 1-10, it sounds different. combined with 50s wiring, its perfect, really. its almost like a gain control from your amp slapped right on to ur guitars volume control. i love them and it was worth every cent. they are really costly though.

if you want more info on RS pots, go to MLP forum. seriously!
 
dudelove:: well i know don't know to what extend of muddy when it gets muddy when rolling the vol knob down, but my guitar don't. it retains the highs i get when its at 10. maybe it has 50's wiring as a stock setting? wonder if the vintage wiring is good, why change it at all? ok maybe good is a just a perspective. haha.

and i don't remember A math cause i didn't take it. haha.

ohh i just went to MLP. good reasons to try it! though read something about size incompatibility. sure will consider it when i super mod my TGM les paul. i foresee when everything's counted in, it'll cost twice of the price of the guitar itself!
 
Tone determines a player's skill

That was a piece of useful information.
When I play my Les Paul I normally leave all the four knobs in the full position.
The volume knobs not only increase the volume of the guitar but also increase the gain when you are using any distortion pedal. I normally program my GT8 with my volume knob full and adjust my volume using the volume pedal. In this way I dont lose the gain which gives more bite to your distortion pedal. Listen to Paul Daniel's tone even he is using a guitar less than $1k. Eddy Cradle has good tone using his Ibanez even though many said that Ibanez guitars do not have the cut-through quality.
 
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