hickory vs jap oak

chud

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hey guys, which is more durable? vic firth's hickory sticks or tama's japanese oaks'? i heard that vic firths' allow more speed and control... what yall think?
 
Japanese Oak, being much denser, would be more durable. but they are heavier, and the shock transmitted to our fingers is much more obvious..
 
rimshot said:
Japanese Oak, being much denser, would be more durable. but they are heavier, and the shock transmitted to our fingers is much more obvious..

True. in my opinion, maple would be the best for me. coz it is the opposite of japanese oak, which make it break easily, so hickory will be alright in your case?
 
Its hard to recommend, cos different things work for different people.
But remember Hickory IS the most widely used wood for Drumstick manufacture.

I have always played hickory, and i did switch to Promark 747 Oak for a couple of weeks when i playing nightly cos i wanted the durabilty. But my hands suffered from the increased shock i was getting from the stick, so i had no choice but to switch back.

Another option is the Ahead Sticks, which are shock absorbing, AND last very long (in most cases). But they have too much flex, thus feel pretty different (and sound different too) from wood sticks.

In the end, the best option might be to just stick with hickory, but try different manufacturers to see which one holds up best for you.
 
I personally would recommend Hickory sticks.
And in particular Vic Firth sticks. Their 5As are superb workhorse sticks.
Their Stanton Moore model is an excellent balance of finesse, thickness and weight too, but that's just me.
I like Vic Firths mainly because they don't slip, as compared to Vaters and some zildjian models.

I've tried Tama's Japanese Oak sticks.
Yes, they are denser and more durable.
However, they transmit a lot more shock to one's hand.
After one or two jams, i noticed a significant amount of added fatigue to my fingers and hands.
Oak's not good for you hands man.

Hickory still does it for me.
Vic Firth's maple sticks are great too, if you want a light stick for softer rock music or for jazz.
 
I PREFER ZILDJIAN`

heh. personally i like zildjian more. the artist series.. i like the travis barker for louder songs and the alexander tim for softer ones.. the weight diff ya.. try it!
 
rimshot said:
Its hard to recommend, cos different things work for different people.
But remember Hickory IS the most widely used wood for Drumstick manufacture.

I have always played hickory, and i did switch to Promark 747 Oak for a couple of weeks when i playing nightly cos i wanted the durabilty. But my hands suffered from the increased shock i was getting from the stick, so i had no choice but to switch back.

Another option is the Ahead Sticks, which are shock absorbing, AND last very long (in most cases). But they have too much flex, thus feel pretty different (and sound different too) from wood sticks.

In the end, the best option might be to just stick with hickory, but try
different manufacturers to see which one holds up best for you.
ahead isnt good
 
oak is the most durable, yeah. pro mark sticks break very easily i think. vic firth have the best sticks i feel. their quality is impeccable. but their durability is quite.. uh.. peccable. for both quality and strength, try vater sticks. really just get used to what sticks you want. Vic Firth's slogan is, it matters cos if it feels better, you'll play better. so if you enjoy a stick that breaks in a week, you could try buying a new pair every week. or you could change your style of playing and type of sticks.
 
I beg to differ on Vic Firth sticks though. Not only are they comfortable, they can last me quite a while too. I may not be a very hard hitter, but I don't hit 'em real soft either :wink:
 
tama 213p's rock! personally i dont feel very much shock when i play, only little prob is that a lil bit more control is needed when rolling... other than that the sound it givs upon playing is solid and defined... in my opinion i think u shd practice with heavier sticks... so that later on when u play with light sticks they will be a breeze and u can play with much more ease... vic firth 7As work for me too though they are light sticks
 
213p? isn't that the extra-thin one with the thin and long tip? those look cool. but they look like they break very fast. i like 7A too cos there's a really good feel. but i find that they break quite easily. okay maybe cos i used 7AN and the nylon caused the extra shock over time. Thomas Lang says in his Vic Firth interview (cos his stick is .650" thick) that his stick is for real men, nothing for sissies, if you can't handle it, go for something like a 7A. then i was like, ?!
 
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