Guitar suck clarity

[aikelman]

I run my guitar that is rally les paul gl-400 (everything stock) through my pedalboard then to my amp.

Pedalboard signal chain :- ( in order)
Boss mt-2
Beta aivin hm-200
Boss ge-7
Beta aivin dd2
Fab chorus
Proel volume
Mooer reverb

It will continue to my amp that is eiter aria 10watt or tgm 20 watt i prefer aria due to the clean channel as i know high gain pedal sound nice on clean channel.
I just couldn't get the clarity of the note . Help me anyone ?
Oh yah at times too my guitar like dun have enough sustain/gain to hold a note , that happen when i lower down the distortion . Im not sure about what the cause but like you know the sound not smooth like got something less in it ?

 

[zesn]

The Nicholasim guy running through big tube amps with a metal zone, says his tone not nice.
You're doing the same, but with an added beta aivin heavy metal.
With so much gain distorting your guitar signal already, and you still slap on a delay, chorus and reverb.
How to get note clarity?

 

[aikelman]

I get what you mean bro but , usually i only use one of the distortion . Its either beta aivin or mt-2 cause they both are set to a different setting . I never leave both of them on . Whats the modulation pedal affect the clarity ? Unles you mean it will affect it even if i never leave them on ? Thanks for the help

 

[VidaK]

if only the mt or the hm is on, does it clear up better?

if they sound like a puddle of mud then, there, that is the culprit



otherwise switch one pedal on at a time until your notes turn into mud

 

[gunihoon]

I run my guitar that is rally les paul gl-400 (everything stock) through my pedalboard then to my amp.

If I am using your pedals, I would run them in this order:

Pedalboard signal chain :- ( in order)
Boss mt-2
Beta aivin hm-200
Boss ge-7
Fab chorus
Proel volume > here if you want the trails to remain when your volume is off or end of chain
Beta aivin dd2
Mooer reverb
Proel volume > here if you want a master cut.

Typically pedal sequence should be: Guitar > ODs/DIST > MODs > AMP

I would try this:
1) Guitar direct to amp, listen out for your volume and clarity (getting your cleanest tone first)
2) Now plug through your pedals (all off) and see if you can hear any tonal degration. (there likely will be due to the buffers/pedals)
3) Switch on the GE7 adjust to compensate for the volume and tone to get the ballpark tone like guitar direct to amp. This can be left as always on to act as a buffer to compensate for tone loss.
4) Turn on your Distortion pedals(with GE7 on), adjust gain and tone to ur liking
5) Adjust the levels on ur modulation pedals to match the volume when they are engaged. (i.e. the volume should remain the same whether the pedals are on or off)

On sustain, distortion pedals typically increases sustain. Reducing the distortion will typically reduce your sustain.

My 2 cents!

 

[doggieshaman]

i think the solution is to buy a buffer pedal

this happened to me before when i started chaining too many pedals together. I don't really understand why but having the buffer at the start of the chain seems to make the muddiness go away.

the cheaper solution is to plonk an EQ right at the end and pump the mids and trebles to 'compensate' but that's really just masking the problem so i'd suggest you try out a buffer.

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

actually the 2 boss pedals in the chain already has a buffer circuit in it...2 of it infact(one in each pedal). Most if not all boss pedal has that buffer thingy in it(even if effect is bypassed) and been over the years loved and hated by lotsa users.

Buffer circuit is a good thing in general, to ensure no signal degradation in a long chain of pedals and cables etc. But the thing with boss buffer circuit is that some doesnt like the way it change the eventual sound output.

Do not be be misled that buffer will cause the sound to suffer, coz the point of having a buffer is infact the opposite, to ensure signal get drive throughout the path its travelling, without a loss in the signal integrity

Having a dedicated buffer in the chain prolly wont do much unless knowing whats the cause of the mud in the sound. From the guitar/guitar pickups, gain structure interaction between drive/distortion/amp to playing/muting technique to amp/amp size, etc.

There is prolly quite a number of factors in it that influenced clarity and sound quality. Without finding out the cause, there wont be any clear solution to solve the issues.

 

[doggieshaman]

ahhh i see... thanks for enlightening me - the buffer seems to work for me but of course i dont have a single boss pedal inside, maybe that's why

 

[dorngo]

get a good volume pedal. maybe like a goodrich or a hilton. put it first in line. acts as a buffer. well, thats what i do. Ernie balls dont work that well in my opinion.

 

[VidaK]

do note that most volume pedals are not buffers

 

[kenkwok]

from what i see 100% proel vol pedal is the cause. proel and boss vol pedal suck tone.

 

[sciatica]

I tried the rally gl-400 at svguitars and it did lack clarity. Perhaps it could be the guitar that's the problem? I run my guitars through 18 pedals and don't notice any lack of clarity.