Anyone used this baby before? I felt like buying it second hand. What people tell me is this baby has no feedbacks, in a sense you can leave your amp on and go drink coffee bath, no sound. This baby just won't make noise. However it has 1 channel and the clean has superb sound. Its been there since 1995. Been kept in the user's cabinet. No longer in production. I mean the age is a matter. Don't really know if it is worth it. Suggestions? Btw i will like to buy tubeamps, anyone has kindly PM me. Best marshall AVT-20. Watts ranging from 20 to 30. Thank you.
Fender Sidekick 25 watts
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marshall_law
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Marshall AVT isn't a tube amp. it is hybrid or in other words a valvestate. And there is not amp without feedback.
marshall_law
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Tube amp- The preamp and power amp are powered by tubes, example, marshall jcm 800, marshall jcm 2000.
Valvestate, hybrid- The preamp is powered by tube but the poweramp is powered by chip. Examples, Marshall AVTs
Solidstate- Both preamp and power amp is powered by chip. Example Marshall MG.
The differences is in the sound. IMO, tube sounds the best. Tube amp are the most expensive lot.
Valvestate, hybrid- The preamp is powered by tube but the poweramp is powered by chip. Examples, Marshall AVTs
Solidstate- Both preamp and power amp is powered by chip. Example Marshall MG.
The differences is in the sound. IMO, tube sounds the best. Tube amp are the most expensive lot.
There are 3 types of amps around:
1. Tube amp
2. Hybrid amp
3. Solid state amp
The Marshall AVT are Hybrid amps.
It has a TUBE in it's Pre-amp section, and a solid state in the Post-amp section.
TUBE amps, as most people know em... are full tube (both pre-amp and power-amp stage)
Each type of amp has it's own pros and cons, here are some common words used to describe em:
1. Tube Amp -- Most people claim it's the best sounding because there is compression, rather than clipping when the amp distorts (thus more natural sounding to our ears) Also, tube amps distort asymetrically (giving the effect of a "warm" tube distortion)
2. Solid State amp -- Cheapest to manufacture amongst all 3 types. "Tougher" (as it is physically less sensitive compared to Tube amps, able to take tougher bumps etc) Sharp sounding, "sterile" clean, sharp sounding distortions.
3. Hybrid Amp -- Tries to merge the best of both worlds. Cheaper than a full tube amp. Tries to be tubish sounding, solid state means less money spent on tube replacements.
Just my little 2cents worth, please don't shoot me down for my inaccurate choice of words
Hope it helps VaiSteve, you can do a google search if you'd like to read up more on how these amps compare.
1. Tube amp
2. Hybrid amp
3. Solid state amp
The Marshall AVT are Hybrid amps.
It has a TUBE in it's Pre-amp section, and a solid state in the Post-amp section.
TUBE amps, as most people know em... are full tube (both pre-amp and power-amp stage)
Each type of amp has it's own pros and cons, here are some common words used to describe em:
1. Tube Amp -- Most people claim it's the best sounding because there is compression, rather than clipping when the amp distorts (thus more natural sounding to our ears) Also, tube amps distort asymetrically (giving the effect of a "warm" tube distortion)
2. Solid State amp -- Cheapest to manufacture amongst all 3 types. "Tougher" (as it is physically less sensitive compared to Tube amps, able to take tougher bumps etc) Sharp sounding, "sterile" clean, sharp sounding distortions.
3. Hybrid Amp -- Tries to merge the best of both worlds. Cheaper than a full tube amp. Tries to be tubish sounding, solid state means less money spent on tube replacements.
Just my little 2cents worth, please don't shoot me down for my inaccurate choice of words
Hope it helps VaiSteve, you can do a google search if you'd like to read up more on how these amps compare.
well thats a lot of help thanks. hmm so u mean, solid state amps sounds dry and not really nice? hmm. i mean depending on the music you play of course but its kinda dry right? for solid state. and is marshall avt20 worth it? or should i get a fender sidekick 25 watts? which already has a 9 years of history.
In My Opinion,
Tube amps are kinda inappropriate if you are confined to using it as a home practice amp and playing at a bedroom volume level. The real juice of a tube amp only flows when its cranked and it starts to "break up". As to when clipping occurs. I bet that would either blow your brains off or earn you a visit from the police. Either that, you have to have a sound proofed room or studio.
Of course the essence of tone resides in tubes and no one can argue about that. Tubes generate harmonic distortion which apparently sounds "warmer". The uniqueness in this tube tone was deemed difficult to emulate till now with improvement in modeling technology.
Solid states are all about transistors and transistors. However besides low cost, they do get a plus point because for some and i stress "some" solid state amps produces really good tones at LOW to MID volumes. i think good solid state amps that i know of are Peavey Bandits, Peavey XXL and Kustom amps. And you can relax on the maintenance unlike tube amps where the tubes will deteoriate due to heat and you have to replace them from time to time.
Yes i can recommend the hybrid amps like the AVT series. They are a good run for the money and you can get pretty close to a tube sound from these. I owned an AVT 20 before and it very much rocked my bedroom. The overdrive channel produces distortion that is very tight and punchy but tends to be fuzzy at high gain settings. The clean is not that "clean" as it has got traces of saturation in it due to the tube. If you dun mind the blues sound then its alright. I am going for an AVT 50 pretty soon and i have read numerous good reviews about it. Be warned though...the AVT 20 is already very very loud.
But it still boils down to preference. Know what sound you want to achieve and go for it.
Tube amps are kinda inappropriate if you are confined to using it as a home practice amp and playing at a bedroom volume level. The real juice of a tube amp only flows when its cranked and it starts to "break up". As to when clipping occurs. I bet that would either blow your brains off or earn you a visit from the police. Either that, you have to have a sound proofed room or studio.
Of course the essence of tone resides in tubes and no one can argue about that. Tubes generate harmonic distortion which apparently sounds "warmer". The uniqueness in this tube tone was deemed difficult to emulate till now with improvement in modeling technology.
Solid states are all about transistors and transistors. However besides low cost, they do get a plus point because for some and i stress "some" solid state amps produces really good tones at LOW to MID volumes. i think good solid state amps that i know of are Peavey Bandits, Peavey XXL and Kustom amps. And you can relax on the maintenance unlike tube amps where the tubes will deteoriate due to heat and you have to replace them from time to time.
Yes i can recommend the hybrid amps like the AVT series. They are a good run for the money and you can get pretty close to a tube sound from these. I owned an AVT 20 before and it very much rocked my bedroom. The overdrive channel produces distortion that is very tight and punchy but tends to be fuzzy at high gain settings. The clean is not that "clean" as it has got traces of saturation in it due to the tube. If you dun mind the blues sound then its alright. I am going for an AVT 50 pretty soon and i have read numerous good reviews about it. Be warned though...the AVT 20 is already very very loud.
But it still boils down to preference. Know what sound you want to achieve and go for it.
metallibeast
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I think it would be unfair to juz say SS sux although I'm not a big fan of SS but I think it really depends on what sounds good to you I've seen blind testes done online, not amps but pickups and the people actually prefer pickups like Gibson 57 or 498R as opposed to boutique pickups like Voodoo, Fralin, Tom Holmes and such.
I'm pretty sure that if there is such a blind test online, I'm pretty sure not that many people will be able to tell the diff. So the best way is to trust your ears.
What do you mean by dry? The term dry is use usually when you're talking bout reverb especially on vocals, easiest way is to listen to your amp with and without reverb to hear the diff. I do notice that the louder your amp is the less reverb I've on. If your amp volume is loud enough it will hit the wall and go back to you as reveb thus you will not need to have that much reverb on.
Sorry for the long rant
-Beast
I'm pretty sure that if there is such a blind test online, I'm pretty sure not that many people will be able to tell the diff. So the best way is to trust your ears.
What do you mean by dry? The term dry is use usually when you're talking bout reverb especially on vocals, easiest way is to listen to your amp with and without reverb to hear the diff. I do notice that the louder your amp is the less reverb I've on. If your amp volume is loud enough it will hit the wall and go back to you as reveb thus you will not need to have that much reverb on.
Sorry for the long rant
-Beast
metallibeast
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veez said:
True true there are also super low power tube amps, aroudn 5W and below, like Little Lanilei, TopHat's Cadet series among others. But be forewarn that this amps are around the 2Grand and above range
marshall_law
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I personally go for tube amp. But there is peavey transtube amp which make a solid state amp sounds really good. Good clean and good overdrive. It's all up to personal preferences.
yeah thanks for those info guys. but was wondering, if i were to use AVT series in my bedroom. sorta small. and not sound prove. by putting at low level, will the tube sound, i mean i havent heard the diff between a non-tube amp and a tubeamp's kind of tone and sound. but if its in my bedroom and at low level, can it really project? or should i say, the tube thingy will work at only high volumes?
brundisium
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tube amp, hybrid amp or ss amp will deliever. Lots of instance, playing with the amp eq, guitar/pickup used and the person playing will have much more differences than having a tube or non tube amp, imho.
Sound projection will be fine in the bedroom, regardless of tube or non tube amp. Its still guitar amp, design for sound projection and amplifying the electric guitar
Sound projection will be fine in the bedroom, regardless of tube or non tube amp. Its still guitar amp, design for sound projection and amplifying the electric guitar
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