hey... i currently have a band called framework tragedy.. we have four songs so far.. and i plan to send this 4 demos to make an ep album.. but the problem is.. i duno who to send it to.. my type of song wud be hardcore.. with a touch of metal.. so sony music is a no..universal music too.. coz these companies only recruit mainstream music.. so any help?
Ep Album Ready..
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AgingYouth
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Majors aren't interested in EPs usually>>>
Ownself do.<<< Ka ki lai...
Edit: Sorry, I forgot to add certain punctuations...
Ownself do.<<< Ka ki lai...
Edit: Sorry, I forgot to add certain punctuations...
Freeflowclass
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yea get it done yourself.
and also big labels normally only get you if you already have sth to show from the start.
and also big labels normally only get you if you already have sth to show from the start.
or if not sure investing all that time and money into producing a physical EP then havin to think abt how to shift all those copies, then just setup Myspace and pass the links around to get noticed and get feedback from ppl. Thats really the cheapest n' easiest way esp when ur new and startin' out........
Against The Enemy
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I don't know much but if you wanna send it to a label so much..
find the address,
send it to them
but make sure it looks impressive...
with the sleeve art and such...and of course the music
roadrunner japan address:
or e mail them for the right address to be sure
Rrj@roadrunnerrecords.co.jp
find the address,
send it to them
but make sure it looks impressive...
with the sleeve art and such...and of course the music
roadrunner japan address:
〒150-0041
Ku, 150-0041 東京都渋谷区神南 1-6-6 オザワ・ビル5F
Shibuya-ku, Tokyo 1-6-6 Ozawa Bill神南5 F ロードランナー・ジャパン株式会社
Roadrunner Inc.or e mail them for the right address to be sure
Rrj@roadrunnerrecords.co.jp
Against The Enemy
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i dunno..maybe the wake me up music label?
it's home to some local band...such as a vacant affair,sky in euphoria
anyway i think you should take this slow
don't rush into it
it's home to some local band...such as a vacant affair,sky in euphoria
anyway i think you should take this slow
don't rush into it
=Elroy
Yo mate, i think if you're thinking that mainstream pickup of your ep is going to mean "big things" you're in for a little rethink. This is probably the same for the other non mainstream labels around. Without hearing your material, it's best to assume that it's a little conformist of whatever genre you're trying to hit ... e.g. hardcore... and truthfully other than networking, being on the small labels in singapore is not going to mean much. So define what you want. If you're into spreading the music without getting paid, then the myspace thing is the way to go. Personally i'd go virb, but ok, you know the site with market traction in cultural commodity is still myspace, though the signal to noise ratio is a bit zzzzz.
So really my advice is to send it to yourself and distribute yourself.
Yo mate, i think if you're thinking that mainstream pickup of your ep is going to mean "big things" you're in for a little rethink. This is probably the same for the other non mainstream labels around. Without hearing your material, it's best to assume that it's a little conformist of whatever genre you're trying to hit ... e.g. hardcore... and truthfully other than networking, being on the small labels in singapore is not going to mean much. So define what you want. If you're into spreading the music without getting paid, then the myspace thing is the way to go. Personally i'd go virb, but ok, you know the site with market traction in cultural commodity is still myspace, though the signal to noise ratio is a bit zzzzz.
So really my advice is to send it to yourself and distribute yourself.
gutturalpiss
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Before you even THINK of marketing your music, please UNDERSTAND how the market works.
Before you even THINK of getting a LABEL, please UNDERSTAND the difference between an Extended Play (EP) and a Demo.
I've seen too many yound and energetic bands jumping for joy over finally having "made an EP" when in fact, what they've produced is a Demo. This is not a local problem, however. Fairly rampant globally.
You release an EP, for example, when you want to allow a preview of your new style, or new album, or if there's something different you want to showcase in the midst of your musical career. It's an "extension" of your previous album, so to say, because it's normally smaller than a full album.
You can release a Demo similarly at any point of time, but it's only meant to be taken as a marketing preview. If you want to attract labels/distributors, you send them a Demo. To start you off, here is one you can try, though not exactly a "label".
Before you even THINK of getting a LABEL, please UNDERSTAND the difference between an Extended Play (EP) and a Demo.
I've seen too many yound and energetic bands jumping for joy over finally having "made an EP" when in fact, what they've produced is a Demo. This is not a local problem, however. Fairly rampant globally.
You release an EP, for example, when you want to allow a preview of your new style, or new album, or if there's something different you want to showcase in the midst of your musical career. It's an "extension" of your previous album, so to say, because it's normally smaller than a full album.
You can release a Demo similarly at any point of time, but it's only meant to be taken as a marketing preview. If you want to attract labels/distributors, you send them a Demo. To start you off, here is one you can try, though not exactly a "label".
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Freeflowclass
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im frustrated at the fact why people think that having a label will get you further.
dir
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Why? having a label helps you get to gigs where you won't normally stand a chance to play, get your music distributed to a more larger audience than you could ever do on your own and most importantly get you in touch with people who can help you go far in your career. Especially in Singapore, where you can't just do everything DIY and play at pubs night in and night out to build your own band's reputation. The scene is already rigged, what matters is how you set out to play it.
of course, just because you're signed to a label doesn't mean you have it made already. There's still a lot more hard work involved, but getting signed is a first step.
Against The Enemy
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^^totally agree with you bro dir
visa
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having a label helps you get to gigs where you won't normally stand a chance to play
Nope, not really. Labels have alot of things to do, and you're not at the top of their priorities. You're better off sourcing out promoters yourself and winning them over.
get your music distributed to a more larger audience than you could ever do on your own
With MySpace and Facebook, etc, that statement is now null and void. If you mean distrubuted as in "put your CDs in shops", that doesn't mean that anybody's going to buy them. People rarely buy CDs to begin with unless they're already crazy over the artist in question.
and most importantly get you in touch with people who can help you go far in your career
You can do that yourself too, and I find it's more sincere if you do.
Especially in Singapore, where you can't just do everything DIY and play at pubs night in and night out to build your own band's reputation.
Why not?
there's still a lot more hard work involved, but getting signed is a first step.
I would say your first step is developing material, becoming a quality performer, have good quality demos, build good rapport with promoters, develop and mantain a close and large fanbase... getting signed comes after all that.
I challenge you to name me 10 local bands that got successful BECAUSE of getting signed to a label, and in comparison point out how many are successful without.
Finally, do any of you have any experience with actually being signed to a label? If you don't, then you don't actually know what you're talking about and just chasing an ideal that's just going to disappoint you.
Nope, not really. Labels have alot of things to do, and you're not at the top of their priorities. You're better off sourcing out promoters yourself and winning them over.
get your music distributed to a more larger audience than you could ever do on your own
With MySpace and Facebook, etc, that statement is now null and void. If you mean distrubuted as in "put your CDs in shops", that doesn't mean that anybody's going to buy them. People rarely buy CDs to begin with unless they're already crazy over the artist in question.
and most importantly get you in touch with people who can help you go far in your career
You can do that yourself too, and I find it's more sincere if you do.
Especially in Singapore, where you can't just do everything DIY and play at pubs night in and night out to build your own band's reputation.
Why not?
there's still a lot more hard work involved, but getting signed is a first step.
I would say your first step is developing material, becoming a quality performer, have good quality demos, build good rapport with promoters, develop and mantain a close and large fanbase... getting signed comes after all that.
I challenge you to name me 10 local bands that got successful BECAUSE of getting signed to a label, and in comparison point out how many are successful without.
Finally, do any of you have any experience with actually being signed to a label? If you don't, then you don't actually know what you're talking about and just chasing an ideal that's just going to disappoint you.
dir
New member
that depends on your perception of success. in my perception, achieving success means getting worldwide recognition, not just homegrown fans. there's only a handful of those bands like The Suns or maybe Impiety.
Can you name me five unsigned bands that anyone outside of Singapore actually cares about?
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I treat myspace/all other copycat websites as a front for people to preview your stuff. They're not mediums for distribution. cds and vinyls are. That is if you have any respect for your music. 96kbps or 128kbps is hardly enjoyable quality. Also you can buy some internet bandwidth and distribute your album online, but that takes money too. Also 'people rarely buy cds'? Tell that to HMV or some record shop and maybe they'll provide you some real backed-up facts to start with.
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visa
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you say "achieving success means getting worldwide recognition, not just homegrown fans."
The Suns were unsigned- they developed their fanbase in Melbourne out of their own sweat and blood, from printing and distributing flyers and working their way up.
Can you name me five unsigned bands that anyone outside of Singapore actually cares about?
If you take some time to browse the MySpaces of AVA, Caracal, Electrico, The Great Spy Experiment,
Also, you're misquoting me out of context- i said people rarely buy CDs of artists they don't know- meaning people buy CDs of artists they already like. And even then, CD sales are dipping.
Accounting for the big plunge in "music sales": the digital singles effect
Regardless, the point i'm trying to make is this-
You get signed to a label because you are successful, not the other way around. Bands signed to labels are successful because labels choose to sign successful bands.
An analogy you could draw would be that it's not the CEO title on your namecard that makes you good at your job, but rather the fact that you're good at your job that made you CEO.
Similarly I'd suggest that if a band wants to get successful, it ought to develop a large, solid fanbase, record good demos, raise awareness, etc. The "I need to get signed to a label and then my life will be much easier" mindset is not very healthy, in my opinion.
The Suns were unsigned- they developed their fanbase in Melbourne out of their own sweat and blood, from printing and distributing flyers and working their way up.
Can you name me five unsigned bands that anyone outside of Singapore actually cares about?
If you take some time to browse the MySpaces of AVA, Caracal, Electrico, The Great Spy Experiment,
Also, you're misquoting me out of context- i said people rarely buy CDs of artists they don't know- meaning people buy CDs of artists they already like. And even then, CD sales are dipping.
Accounting for the big plunge in "music sales": the digital singles effect
Regardless, the point i'm trying to make is this-
You get signed to a label because you are successful, not the other way around. Bands signed to labels are successful because labels choose to sign successful bands.
An analogy you could draw would be that it's not the CEO title on your namecard that makes you good at your job, but rather the fact that you're good at your job that made you CEO.
Similarly I'd suggest that if a band wants to get successful, it ought to develop a large, solid fanbase, record good demos, raise awareness, etc. The "I need to get signed to a label and then my life will be much easier" mindset is not very healthy, in my opinion.
