Do U Practice Rudiments Everyday / Whats Is The Benefit Reap

[RudimentalDrummer]

Hi Bros:-

Can you share with me your experience on Rudiments here. I would like to know

(1) Do you actually practice your Drums Rudiments everyday (doesn't matter if it's 15 mins, 30 mins or hours on it)

(2) In doing so, how have you benefitted through this kind Of Practice?

(3) Many says - Rudiments are Fundamentals To Drumming - Do You Agree Wiyh This? based on your own personal opinion.

(4) How do you practice rudiments? "On a practice pad", "on the snare", "on a pillow", should be the standard answers - by Bro Weckl (thanks)

Please share with me...Thanks !

 

[RudimentalDrummer]

Ehhhh ..Bros..how come not even a single response one lah here..Oh..common.....chip in something please.

how can..I ask a question..then I have to answer myself meh...Kekekeke wah...you all so bery wicked har to me here...

No lah..please.eee tell me how Rudiments had help you develop your drumming till todate - I'm really not talking about speed-drumming here, because this comes only naturally through time...I mean overall...there must be something generally.

 

[weckl-x]

okay bro, to answer your questions:

(1) Yes, I *try* to at least 30mins everyday. Try lah.
I also have this printed out and carry it around in my stickbag.
http://www.pas.org/Resources/rudiments/rudiments.html

(2) IMO, practising rudiments has helped me to work on the 3 kinds of independence:
-rhythmic independence (ie: ostinatos)
-motion independence (limbs moving in different directions simultaneously)
-dynamic independence (playing different accent lines with different limbs)

(3) IMO, I think they're definitely fundamental, and can contribute to a lot of ideas (fills, grooves, ostinatos) that you can use around a drum kit. Having rudiments up your sleeves can provide you with a solid foundation that can back you up in any playing situation.

Kinda like guitarists knowing scales, it helps in playing solos and licks.

I think it's safe to say this: If you don't care for rudiments, you can still be a great drummer. If you do, however, you will very likely be even better than great.



Disclaimer: All the above are personal opinions of the poster and are not intended to convince or persuade anyone from their own opinions or beliefs.

 

[weckl-x]

Btw, Bro RD, one question you didn't ask but I'll chip it, is the HOW.

How do you practice rudiments? "On a practice pad", "on the snare", "on a pillow", should be the standard answers.

To add some variety and challenge to your rudiments practice, check out these resources:

Specific Rudiments for Drum Set
Berklee College of Music faculty member Rick Considine shows you how to applly the standard 26 rudiments to the entire drum set.
http://www.berkleeshares.com/drums__percussion/drum_set_rudiments

Rudiments Around the Drums
http://www.tigerbill.com/drumlessons/rudimentsaroundthedrums_part1.htm
http://www.tigerbill.com/drumlessons/rudimentsaroundthedrums_part2.htm
http://www.tigerbill.com/drumlessons/rudimentsaroundthedrums_part3.htm
http://www.tigerbill.com/drumlessons/rudimentsaroundthedrums_part4.htm
http://www.tigerbill.com/drumlessons/rudimentsaroundthedrums_part5.htm

 

[joshie]

yea due to time constraints i practice probably an hour a week or so on rudiments. rudiments gives versatility to your hands and every other drum exercise comes from rudiments.

 

[RudimentalDrummer]

Ok I answer your question Bro Weckl

I do my Rudimental Practice minimum - 2 to 3 hours a night. at maximum 2hours on the pad (I use the Sabian pad like a snare one), 1/2 hour on my lap(the piece of meat above my knees)...then another 1/2 hour on my snare drum.

The pad has greatest rebound so - I can play fastest on it..but when transfer to playing on a snare - it become slower as rebound is lesser and I feel uncomfortable due to the difference.

So I now practice 1/2 hour on my lap (that is my own leg) and found that my rudiments more consistant when I play it on snare (Don't laugh at me - it's true one)...also playing on my lap & watching TV won't disturb me wify so much as the pad still got tak-tak-tak sound.....The only disadvanatge is (my lap become red after a while when I do very fast stroke...sometimes can be painful)...but I am not stupid lah (at least I know I'm not so thick-skin mah)....Try it Bros..it really works for me.

 

[hi]

hey man,

Omar Hakim once said that music is a language, and rudiments are like words to express the language.. something like that, so i guess it's really important?

personally i work on like one rudiment specifically, then move on... it's pretty random, from 15 min to 1 hour... but i guess i should implement more discipline in my playing, hahaha

side note: learning crazy army by Steve Gadd will greatly contribute to your rudimental practice

rudiments really help open your mind... they help you to think the drumset in different ways...

i guess personally i practice rudiments on a snare or the back of my chair... as long as my arms are perpedicular and level with the playing surface i should be fine... haha

yup... hope it helped! thank you for sharing

 

[reuben]

i am actually pretty new to drumming... where do you actually find out how to play this rudiments.. but somehow knowing how to read aint helping me although brother weckl did post the site containing the 26 rudiments

but i really cant help but wonder what counts to use...

confusing

how??!?!?!

 

[weckl-x]

Yo Reuben, check this out:

You can watch the video, follow the play-along files if you don't have a metronome, etc...

40 ESSENTIAL SNARE DRUM RUDIMENTS

Welcome to Vic Firth's Drum Rudiment page! Included in this section of the website are all 40 of The Percussive Arts Society's Essential Snare Drum Rudiments, along with videos of each rudiment being performed by Dr. John Wooton, audio play-along files, exercises that apply the rudiment to "real world" musical phrases and practice suggestions from the Vic Firth Education Team. To get started, grab your sticks and a practice pad and select a rudiment from one of the rudimental families below!

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments.html

 

[weckl-x]

Here's one more, Reuben.

The Vic Firth page focuses more on the actual rudiments themselves, here's a page with lessons that focus on the technique part of playing rudiments.

Mark Wessels'
RUDIMENTAL TECHNIQUE

Having good technique is important, whether you're a percussionist in a school band or a 50 year old gigging drumset player. To play music, your hands should be able to do anything your mind asks of them – and rudimental technique is one great way of making sure that can happen.

In these exercises, excerpted from A Fresh Approach to the Snare Drum, Mark will isolate and break down essential rudimental techniques. While some exercises may appear to be geared for the beginning drummer, all skill levels are addressed within each video lesson.

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/technique/wessels.html

 

[weckl-x]

One more, if you need to be inspired, check out Mr. Jeff Queen:
http://www.vicfirth.com/artists/video/queen/queen_pws4HQ.mov

Warning: Don't try this at home on your snare unless you have kevlar heads!

 

[melvin]

lol this thread is great. i stopped playing with rudiments for a long time, the reason.. FORGOT. haha maybe i should start again. and i'm gonna invest in a metronome i guess.

 

[RudimentalDrummer]

It's great...Bro Weckl as usual very helpful and good info for us all...thank you very much.

You know - I put up this post because I myself learning drums for a year now...never really did make it a habit to practice my Rudiments initially for the first 9 months...just doing those Rythmn Patterns, play along with songs etc....as I found it to be rather boring stuffs. Can you imagine I don't even practice doubles, Singles & Paradiddles at all.

Then oneday, my dear friends (a boy & a girl I know them from DrummerWorld) came to my home....while talking they took out from their bag (small-pads) put it on my table...and they just do their Rudiments there at my place...they are quite fast actually....I pai-seh like hell...then of course they knock knock on my drums....we became friends.

3 months ago I started practicing ... and I now get used to it already (If I don't practice an hour a day - I feel something is amiss and I feel uncomfortable)......Ah...so it had become a habit to me liao...and that's good....as I find my Left-Hand becomming better & better..and it really did helps me alot in my drumming.

Rudiments is, if I'm correct one very neglected area by many new drummers (like me), because it's see-beh-sein to do one...but bery good for us.

I initially wanted to make it a point to practice Rudiments - cause I want to Solo like Dennis Chamber lah (even it's day-dreaming I jolly well know myself) - I mean it's for Solo purposes - then Dave Weckl says - when you Solo you don't think of using what Rudiment or what Rudiment - just Solo lah - (I guess what Dave means is that once all these Rudiments is in our head, when we can play it in our pocket - the Soloing Part sure no problem -but how musical depends on us individually eg how musical we ourself are)...but before we can do all these - PRACTICE RUDIMENTs till it's in our pocket. - It must be very important I wonder if I'm correct.

Another thing I came to know is that - Most of the very good drummers here in Singapore can play very well with their Left-Hand. In a way their left-hand can be as fast as their right-hand....it's true. I asked myself - HOw to develop my Left-Hand to be as good as my Right?.....Most people have different kinds of advice eg..doing what you normally do with your Left-Hand...Kekekeke :lol: I had tried that - it's tough...many a times I use back my right hand after a while as I forgot....so I figure - Rudiments helps in this way too.

So, let us all try to incorporate Rudimental Practice into our everyday life (as best as we can) - to gain better control, develop more strength for our left-hand......till we get it in our pocket.....

Then maybe oneday we freak our band & everyone up - being able to do a 15 to 20 minutes Solo (closing one eye)...Wah...that would be great man...and all the Cha-Bo run up to stage....smug smug your face :twisted: .. "It's good to have Dreams :smt023 " right my Bros?

 

[rengaw]

excellent post! so many info/websites need alot of time to visit though + practice. haha

and i agree with RD, cause i just started out not long ago, practicing rudiments really very sian, to be honest even though i just started out, i haven't been concentrating much on rudiments, but more on the others.
(thats why i still so lousy i guess?)

But i'm going to start to screw myself in the brain so i can practice it more often.

Cheers!

 

[reuben]

RD.. you taking lessons or not??

from who? at where?

 

[hi]

personally i think that rudiments make a great introduction to the drumset... they help you master your topwork and push it into a subconscious, as well as train your mind to think in straight and swing feels, so when you get on the drumset, you can start thinking about your feet and move it when you want it, and not struggle with your hands and legs together... so yup... just a thought

happy playing!

 

[kari_convention]

for the past few years i dont care less about studying rudiments. but after few months intesive practice on rudiments, somehow my stroke is much more better than before. i guess rudiments is a must for every drummer who want to be a good solid drummer.

juts my .02 :wink: