Craftsman GS200 for first guitar?

krabber

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HI i am currently getting into electric guitars basically starting to learn. I was looking around for a new entry level guitar to start on and i noticed the GS200 by Craftsman. was just wondering would it be a good entry level guitar? i like how it looks like a les paul and the color of it. and the price of 259 during the upcoming end year sale sounds reasonable. does it qualify for the starter package as well?

Thanks for any help! =D
 
yup, i've tried it and i would personally recommend it. for beginers who don't have an amp, it'll be more worth it to get it with the starter pack, but i'll recommend getting the spider iv 30 with it instead of the spider iv 15 though.
 
hmmm actually i have an old amp at home. its an Ibanez Tone Blaster 15 if im not wrong. its a few years old. i know nuts about amps, the settings on the amps and how it affects the tone. Would a guitar sound good on this amp?
 
the tone blaster is a 15 watt 1×8" amp. ie the speaker's diameter is 8 inches, similar to the spider iv 15. It's not a bad practise amp, but the spider iv would give you more tonal choices because it's a modelling amp.

if you could up your budget by about $200, i would say go ahead and acquire the line 6 spider iv 30 with the starter pack. this amp is a 1×12" so it is capable of producing more bottom end. you could recover some cash by selling your tone blaster. if not, don't bother with the spider iv 15, stick with the tone blaster.
 
May i ask whats the difference between a practice amp and modelling amp? and what does bottom end mean? im sorry for all the questions =X
 
no prob

practise amp = amp used for home practise, usually they're low watts around 5 watts to 30 watts. they can be used for some small performance venues also, but there's a limit to how loud they can go

modelling amp = amplifier that has some digital circuits inside to model the sound of other, often better sounding tube amps that costs way over $1k

bottom end = bass frequencies between 50Hz to 150Hz
 
thanks for the info abt amps! =) abt tone, most of it is trial and error right? to find your preferred tone?

anw have decided to check out the sale and starter pack price with a spider 30 amp and see if its within my budget
 
tbh, if u're starting out and u cant differentiate tone, stick with ur old ibanez amp. unless of cos it cant work anymore and its too expensive to repair. then when u're confident of ur choice of tone, go out there and get a better amp that u know suits ur playing.

as for the comparison of the 2 guitars, i cant really tell if the gs200 is bolt on or set neck but i know the special 2 is bolt on, thus giving more access to the 22nd fret. set necks have a neck heel that really is a pain in the @ss when it comes to reaching the 22nd fret. tone wood wise, considering that the gs200 is alder, it should probably be slightly brighter than the special 2.
 
Honestly i don't think that you should bother with the Epiphone les paul special 2. It was my first guitar but i dont think that it was that great. The tone was pretty muddy and the tuners were really stiff. The nut wasn't really well cut either. I haven't tried the gs200 but i have tried the Telecaster craftsman guitar, can't remember the model number, but the craftsman stuff seemed to be of a higher quality than the epiphone les paul special 2 for about the same price in my opinion.
 
what u probably got was a dud but i do agree that epiphone doesnt really put much thought into the qc for their low end models.
 
I've tried both the Epi LP Special 2 and the GS200 and here is my take: the GS200 does indeed have a slightly brighter tone, but i took it as a plus as it allows the guitar to cut thru the mix better than the Epi. The GS200 also featured much better stock pickups than the Epi in my opinion, they handled gain better and weren't as muddy, on cleans they were more transparent (funnily) and lively (could be a function of the naturally brighter tone). Weightwise, the GS200 was slightly heavier. The Epi was more responsive to changes in picking dynamics and also featured a more comfortable action (tried @SV so it was well setup by Mike). The GS200 had slightly uneven frets, which weren't present on the Epi (again, probably Mike's work). My verdict: i liked the GS200 better due to the better stock pickups. I'd go for it especially if you want to use it for high gain stuff.

As for practice amps and modelling amps, the 2 aren't mutually exclusive. A small modelling amp like the Spider IV 15 can also be a practice amp. The main difference between normal amps and modelling amps is the circuit inside: modelling amps generally have a digital effects processor that can emulate the tones of many 'better' amps (better is subjective) and they also include different effects like a phase, reverb, chorus etc (depends on the brand and cost of the amp). Normal amps usually have at most 4 seperate channels that consist of an analog circuit that does not seek to emulate any particular amp model; this means they have a unique tone. They usually have only reverb and maybe a noise gate (for the more expensive amps). Hopefully this hopes to further clear up your doubts/questions on amps.
 
I've tried both the Epi LP Special 2 and the GS200 and here is my take: the GS200 does indeed have a slightly brighter tone, but i took it as a plus as it allows the guitar to cut thru the mix better than the Epi..

The GS200 is an Alder Body, thats the difference
 
but i heard that the GS200 has a bolt on neck and for LP models a set neck would be better. i have seen the epiphone les paul standard as an option for purchase. was wondering has anyone ordered a guitar online from standard value?
 
but i heard that the GS200 has a bolt on neck and for LP models a set neck would be better. i have seen the epiphone les paul standard as an option for purchase. was wondering has anyone ordered a guitar online from standard value?

Whats the point of ordering online when you can go to their shop within... 30mins?
 
but i heard that the GS200 has a bolt on neck and for LP models a set neck would be better. i have seen the epiphone les paul standard as an option for purchase. was wondering has anyone ordered a guitar online from standard value?

better in terms of?? i find bolt-on lps have alot more access to the higher registers than set neck lps
 
there is no better between bolt-on or set. if there was, then there would be no competition between strats and lps because everybody would just go to the "better" one. one should go down and actually try these two different types to see which one prefers. don't believe in other people's personal preferences because they might not be the same as one's preferences. should try first then decide, cause you might like the bolt-on more.
 
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