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[HideX_X]

Having shity problems with vista or xp cause xp is known to have this security problem when lagged it just disrupts the program loosing all information about it so its quite severe
but what if u can get a free operating system that is good and reliable too good to be true right? well no. its a opensource software made freely called fedora
Im using it now and have no problems with it u can get it at Fedora Project
check out the images and stuffs u can change the themes too
the security on this is top notch try it to believe it

 

[blueprintstudios]

i'm new to linux and i downloaded xandros a few days ago from their website, i think it was screwed and prompts weird stuff like "couldn't find cd image" during installation. wasted 3 of my cd-rs. hope this works.

 

[HideX_X]

lol ur iso recoder software must have worked u out when u were burnign the discs well u can download a proper iso recorder and burn proper software to a working disc and there will be no problems anyways im using fedora now with a cool technology far better than mac and aero called berlyn heres a demo of it but there are more cool things that they have added so these are one of them u can also use kubuntu which is also good just that i personnally like both of them anyways heres the link YouTube - Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn Introduction
care to search for more videos of them and watch

 

[blueprintstudios]

i have 3 dvd writers on 3 computers all at least 2.5ghz and above each pc has 1gb of ram. I write approximately 4 to 20 dvds a day 8Xspeed with verify and I got 5 kegstacks full of dvd data.(5x100x437gb) so i don't think there's anything wrong with my burners cos they're working great for my data..
thanks for recommending anyway. will check it out and feedback if there's anythin.

 

[gutturalpiss]

Great, you saw the light! Welcome aboard!

Kernel = Linux
Software = GNU (well, mostly)
Bundle = Linux Distribution
3D Compositor = Compiz (previously Beryl was a fork, now they have merged and the Beryl features are available as add-ons called Fusion; Compiz Fusion)
Ubuntu = Ubuntu with GNOME desktop
Kubuntu = Ubuntu with KDE desktop
KDE = sexier than Compiz/Beryl, GNOME doesn't even come close: K Desktop Environment - Screenshots

Other free OSs = BSD-variants like PC-BSD (not as user-friendly as Linux distros due to lack of some bling applications/programs), Haiku (promising) and Solaris (inspiring), and some others I don't bother mentioning because I can't recall.

Anyway, make your choice from www.distrowatch.com (look on the right)

Ubuntu does its job well, in fact. So does Mint, OpenSUSE, Fedora, Mandriva, PCLinuxOS and pretty much the so-called batch of top 10 distros listed at the above-mentioned site. My personal recommendation would be Mint, since it comes with lots of stuff others leave out due to laws and useless stuff like that. If you love it and the community behind these wonderful software, join up SGLiNuX › News and as a musician (professional or hobbyist) - LinuxMusicians :: Index

That aside, blueprintstudio's issues are 90% related to a bad burn/download (btw didn't Asus EEE come with some Xandros?). So if it isn't a bad burn (I'm positive a person who does backups fairly regularly will _not_ end up with one), it must be a bad download =/ Here kommt checksums; md5sum.

 

[blueprintstudios]

gutturalpiss : hmm yeah now that you mentioned could be a bad download. i downloaded the open circulation version from torrent, but then the zip file extracted nicely so if the download was bad it wouldn't extract right? so could it be a bad upload? haha , anyway it's too late now, I deleted/threw away the error cds. (actually the cds appear to be working fine too, it loads the starting process with the xandros screen nicely then suddenly "cd image not found")

anyway yea asus eee pc came with xandros. I fix computers freelance for ppl and sometimes they don't have their own original XP, and they don't support piracy and they have no money. (seriously I can just tell them : then don't use computer. use microwave) so i'm looking around for a free OS alternative and stable one at least. linux seems to be the obvious choice here. and I was trying out xandros on asus eee, and it seems idiot proof/user friendly (even to me as a noob) so i think they can go for it.

what would you recommend? I just want a free linux that can do .doc / .xls / .ppt (openoffice) , surf the net, share network folders over wireless and printer and normal stuff like listen mp3 and watch movies (optional) so far I've only tried asus xandros.

 

[HideX_X]

ok i did alot of research on this yes the ubuntu link is not proper u can get it from nus or evohub cause my teacher has one i dont midn burn it at no cost dotn worry its not copyrighted its opensource lol... anyways remember that ubuntu and fedora are the only os supported by beryl which is a cool software check it out on my link stated on my post above

 

[HideX_X]

=blueprintstudios

im a linux user i would say ubuntu for u but just from my experience in all the linux distributions i have seen ubuntu and fedora meets the expectation so i;ll go for either one of them if u need the os for unbuntu or fedora u can ask me liek i said...

 

[blueprintstudios]

i'll be trying linux mint / fedora later, just finished downloading at home. i'm at work now.

 

[gutturalpiss]

Hah, it happens. Sometimes downloads can screw up little portions of data, but a full checksum + burn with integrity check should make sure everything's fine.

Same here, and I've been installing Freespire, Puppy (for older hardware; 64MB RAM & < 400MHz), Elive (for old hardware; 128MB RAM), PCLinuxOS (at least 512MB RAM) and Kubuntu randomly for a while til recently when I finally decided Mint was a better choice for mainstream machines (256MB RAM & > 800MHz). It's basically Ubuntu + enhancements. I personally go with KDE platforms (more Windows-like yet very customizable), so I picked the KDE version of Mint. What matters is that the person who's using it for the first time won't feel lost, and if they're very uncomfortable at least important tasks can be carried out until they purchase a genuine copy of Windows.

While we're on it, check this out: Frontpage - ReactOS Website

and this: Linux XP Desktop 2008 :lol:

Btw, for downloads I normally prefer the Australian Pacific mirror. Here's a rundown: SGLiNuX › Forums › Distros › DEB Based Distros › Where to Download?

 

[blueprintstudios]

i've checked out reactos at a very very earlier stage . their live cd loaded, but not much back then. then recently I downloaded and loaded again, for some weird reason it shut down my pc and couldn't turn on until I turn off the main power and on again. weird eh.. gave up.

 

[gutturalpiss]

Hah!

Man, I forgot to mention the most important thing: it's of no use now.

I'd be surprised if even USB 1.1 devices work. Personally I don't see the point in this but it makes for some fantastic reverse engineering idea. And the other one, is a commercial distribution aiming to be Windows (contrary to what the author advertises, double-clicking on *.exe files fails miserably according to some reviews). Just..interesting.

 

[Cheez]

I remembered last year when our main office upgraded linux one version up, and all USB devices stopped working - from USB sticks to printers. Everything was shut down for weeks. People couldn't do any work. No videoconferencing etc... Now they are using Ubuntu. Seems more or less stable, but I've been hearing complains. The HQ IT people is coming down to my site and may change our entire network into Linux, with heavy objections from me. Yesterday, couldn't videoconference with the HQ, yet again. They have to resort to using a speaker phone to teleconference with me (we are located 400km away). Not to mention people being confused with the different formats of saving files using Open Office which cannot be opened in Microsoft Office. Important documents get missed and lots of time (and money) wasted. Thanks to linux.

 

[blueprintstudios]

actually i think it's about "standardizing" . if one "group/company" uses mac, all HAS to use mac to avoid any cross platform problems.

we can't say linux / mac / windows sucks cos each has its own pros and cons.

in my opinion, mac is stable, mac is expensive (now now, ppl who defend the mac's cost, I'm COMPARING with PC's cost.), mac is userfriendly, but mac is probably not for gaming. more for multimedia work stuff.

linux is of course ever famously stable (for those who successfully install and know how to utilize it) , cost=free depending on distro, userfriendliness wise honestly I heard alot of ppl "no what, linux also quite user friendly" , but because the "STANDARDS" considers userfriendliness = microsoft windows. and everyone is USED to windows so lanlan the label is slapped on like that. remember when the shift from win95 > win98SE (GOOD!) > winME (SUCKS) > winXP (sucks,but when servicepack2 most of it is quite ok already) ? and most ppl not used to the "START BUTTON" ? same here, I always change it to "classic" . i still can't move on from win95. let alone vista now. gaming wise it's also quite limited. but i think ppl mainly use linux for programming/office use. or run it as a webserver kinda thing.

Microsoft Windows / PC .. cheap cost, new PC users love it, spywares/viruses also love Windows too! (anyone watched Untraceable? all that trojans running background in your games opening backdoor ports etc.). gamer's choice, all-rounder choice for office use and others due to microsoft's monopoly. "i use windows because more than 50% of the world uses windows" sorta thing. i mean, seriously , if someone went back into time and assassinated the entire microsoft company. the choice to go today is probably linux or mac. (then again without microsoft's monopoly, linux's perspective of "free" vision may have gone commercial also, who knows.)

for what Cheez said about his company, I think windows may have alot of serious security risks (unless properly patched and well protected by firewalls/antiviruses and idiot users plugging in USB sticks with worms in them) when it comes to bugs in the entire company network. this one hard to say from my view, cos your company's IT guys should be more specialized than I am at this.

 

[gutturalpiss]

Exactly. In a corporate environment, what matters is the standardising. Cheez's case reminds me of something not that similar yet falls in the same equation: Digital Life says "open source community has decided to end support of Fedora Core" - www.hardwarezone.com.sg

Without Microsoft's (or Apple's) monopoly, it's more fitting to presume Linux would've remained a hobbyist's platform. Linus Torvalds had no intention of marketing or distributing his project when he wrote it, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he's not concerned about the so-called market even to this day (he's always claimed he has no interest in Richard Stallman's idea of free software; more of a technical person rather than philosophical). Aside from that, free software was inevitable because even without Microsoft there would've been other Unix giants taking advantage - Apple being a good example. Stallman came up with the first GNU software almost a decade before Linus ported the C library to Linux.

With regards to networking, I and many others would prefer FreeBSD. It never gets more stable and secure as a purely Unix-based free OS, though a lot of game servers (look at EA and the Battlefield series) run Linux. Anyway, as Linux and GNU get more exposure the emphasis on usability (for both the enterprise and home) will strengthen, as well as give rise to more vendors like Xandros and Linspire (commercial distributions). Ultimately, the technical support professionals managing the systems have to know their trade well - whatever the platform.

 

[Cheez]

Standardizing is simply not possible. Yes, we can standardize in the work place using one platform. But people work at home, people has notebooks etc. My other colleagues in other sites uses both Mac and Windows. And all had trouble when HQ decide to send us documents which none of us could open (with Mac or Windows).

Our IT people are very competent. They use Linux in their homes and their notebooks. They basically live off Linux.

Granted that if Windows did not exist, Linux may be today's standard. But in the real world today, Windows is still the main standard (whether we hate it or love it). I'm not saying I like Windows, but in the real world, non-IT people in the corporate world don't really care which OS they use. We just want something that works and not waste our time. Software may be free, but the time wasted equates to money wasted.

For example - part of my work requires complex statistical analyses. The software runs only on Windows. Yes, I could switch to Open-source alternatives, but it doesn't give me enough functionalities. Furthermore, I send the files to different universities across the globe to get opinions and advice from others - they don't use Linux (all still run Windows). And my file format needs to talk to theirs (ie the statistical software file). So when the HQ IT people comes down to change our system to Linux (probably next week actually), they will have to dual boot our machines to ensure it runs in Windows as well since the software runs only on Windows. If security with Windows is their concern, then dual booting brings everything back to square one. My site's networking is not too big - we have about 11 PCs. But I'm still shaking thinking about the possible mess that might occur when we switch.

Yes, if everybody in the world is on Linux, I'm happy to go there. In the real world, is that even possible? Maybe in the future, but at least for now, it seems like Windows for me.

Oh, and none of us (my colleagues and I) play games. So gaming is not a concern at home or work. Our concern is having something that works and talks to each other.