You see, saying that we would rather have a new pedal is kinda going off topic for this thread. TS asked (let me count...) FIVE questions, (that has nothing to do with our opinions on whether we prefer new pedals or not) and he also made more than a dozen statements with a couple of examples. Nothing much to discuss about here, except to answer each question he asked and comment on the statements he made. (if ya ask me, the original post sounds a lil whiny because the way it is phrased) I'm not flaming ts, it's just that sarcasm is one of the service i offer.. so take my opinions with a pinch of salt cause they don't mean a thing.. :twisted:
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QUOTE: I have been on a hunt for delay pedals recently- memory man ,etc. I have found out that for most music shops, they will sell you the pedal that they had taken out from the box for everyone to test, for the same price!
my opinion (which doesn't matter): Oh they do? My guess is so that they can take a new one out to replace the "test pedal" which u thought has been stepped on billions of times. in actual fact, u might be the 1st customer to step on that "test pedal" because the previous one was sold to the customer that walked out of the store when u walked in.
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Isn't that considered selling a secondhand good?
my opinion: Depends on how u look at it. the shop did use it for something (as a test pedal) so it can be seen as a "used" product. but then again, if the condition of the pedal is nearly as good as new (cept for some dust from people's shoes) then it can also be considered "new"?
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I don't call a pedal that everyone has stepped on or used, new.
my opinion: Okay, so u answered ur own question.. that's one of the way u can look at it as mentioned.
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Its like when you want to buy a dvd, lets say the dark knight. you ask the sales person for a copy and he/she will take a copy of a dvd that has been playing on the store's dvd player that helps showcase the TVs that they are selling, put it in the dvd casing and sell it to you.
my opinion: 1stly, i wouldn't mind this because how many times am i gonna play that dvd? 300? (pun! lololol) then u think to urself, oh yeah gonna play it once only, might as well borrow it from places like videoezy (advert alert!). 2ndly, talking about videoezy, since my friend used to work there for a period, i learned from him they actually repackaged the dvds they took out but let ppl know they are used before and give a discount for it. 3rdly, for all the other video selling outlets, what makes you think they don't do it? they could play a disc in the afternoon and put it back in the casing with the rest of the "new" discs on the rack. don't see, don't know, don't care right? no diff!
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Is this practice of selling test pedals allowed?
my opinion: who is the governing body? i'm not clear on this but it seems that it is not not allowed, so i guess it is. correct me if i'm wrong.
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Shouldn't i get a discount since i thought new pedals are those that reside in a box, sealed, unopened, and not touched by anybody?
my opinion: that is what u decide for urself. if u think that u should then simply ask the shop guy if u can get a discount since it is a test piece. easier still, just ask for a new one that's still in the box and pay the full price without any qualms. no one is forcing anybody to buy a "last" pedal which happens to be the testing one that's in bad condition.
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or am i just too choosy?
my opinion: yes u are. but so are the rest of us!
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you may argue that selling guitars are like that but guitars are different, as in they have different woods, etc. pedals are just electronic goods! they have the same sepcs, just like a dvd player!
my opinion: i don't get ur point here. *bang!* ouch ur feet. u're saying it's ok for guitars to be tested by "everybody"(i make it sound like a billion people eh? just copying heh) and be sold at the full price, because guitars are not considered "used" after people play them. pedals, well, they loose their virginity after being stepped on.. this, my friend, is called... erm... goodist!!! the practice of goods discrimination. ooo ok i better refrain from pulling racist or sexist anecdotes, after kena from grandpa.
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you don't see best -denki staff putting a store used dvd player into a box and selling it to customers do you?
my opinion: "you don't see" best denki staff do that. YES we sure don't. when an ostrich sees danger and pops its head underground (they don't do this dumb thing in reality btw) danger magically disappears! not seeing doesn't mean not happening. when they close up, or time to put up new models for display, what happens to the display models? i don't mind if they donate them to me, but maybe i should ask them one day if they do charity.. again, don't see, don't know, don't care. i eat my laksa and i think it's nice, i suspect earthworms was used, but i don't see.. but if i see the cook put !@#$ing earthworms to boil the laksa, om#g i'm sure hell not eating that!!!
Well, i'm talking rubbish, please ignore me.. :twisted: up ur points for asking so many question in one post, putting up a dozen observations and backing em up with a couple of examples anyway! =D
