Budding Drummer looking for some help.

yingkaik

yingkaik

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Hello everyone!
Recently joined this great forum and have been looking around.
I have been on the drums for quite a few years and well unfortunately, i do not have a drumset at home. So my drumming practices are usually during jamming with my friends(which does not happen very often now) or at the arcade playing that drummania game and of course air drumming at home.
Recently ive chanced upon this Pearl Rhythm traveler. Seems like a affordable kit from people selling them off and judging from the reviews its pretty decent though some people complain about the stock cymbals turning by itself. And does not sound as good as a proper drum but that can be sort of solved with buying new heads for them.
I have also looked up this Traps A400 but its going for $999. Which i dont have the cash for as of now.
Living in a 3 room flat (Space Constraints) and a budget of about $500 maybe a bit more. Im wondering what kind of drumkits can you softies recommend? What im looking for is a acoustic drumset feel as far as possible.
And if im looking to buy a practice pad set how much will it cost?

I hope to hear from you all soon! =)
 
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carlos lol. from ranking 530 with cymbal but i wont recomend getting it. try to find some 2nd hand stuff in the buy and sell section?
 
Yep, am currently looking thru the forum, seen some RT's for sale(Seems quite a few people are selling them). =) Looking for more recommendations of entry level drum set.
 
Hey. Alright buying a drums. Note these points.
1)Drum heads
2)Cymbals
3)Fusion set or rock?
4)Noise problem

1) Drum heads.
To me, i think its very important. u can get a Pearl Rhythm traveller with stock heads and stock cymbals. they sound like shit. So change the heads like REMO or EVANS. and tune it well. if need help, can youtube how to tune. or just play by ear. but heads aint very cheap. range from $25-$50. depends on what u wanna get.

2) Cymbals.
Change the stock cymbals. its really bad.
Or u can give them to myner(softie) haha.
Cymbal wise u can try B8 pro or turkish cymbals like istanbul. or u can try Stagg. but try the sabian xs 20 . they aint too bad. But given ur budget, try to find a set on soft who includes these cymbals. yeap.

3)Fusion or rock?
Fusion the toms are smaller
Rock bigger.
I aint no expert at this. but i think fusion is 10" 12" and 14" . its either 12 or 13.
For rock is 12"13"16" again, im not sure. but around there.
The smaller the tom, usually the higher pitch it sounds yeap.

4)Noise problem
Since u stay in a HDB flat(like me)
u can either play drums before 10pm and i think after 10am/11am. Its some HDB rule. but dont take advantage of it:)
Or u can buy mutes and mesheads. Pearl Rhythm traveller usually come with the mesheads. so do enquire abt it.

Well other sets u can consider is the carlos where u can follow the above. but PRT the bottom no drum head while the carlos have. so i'd prefer the carlos. There is the tama stagestar. also decent. yea.

At the drum buy/sell forum got ppl selling tama stage star...
And, some guy selling a drum pad for $40.
Whatever u need is there! haha.


Hope this helps!
 
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Haha yes it helps. Every little bit does.
Saw someone selling tama stagestar for about 550 with stock cymbals and hi hat.
So was wondering if that price range is decent.
Still taking in more information and prices atm. And well im more to the rock/metal side and yeah do you think a tama stage star would be a decent enough kit to bring out the sound?
 
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Hmm roland electronic sets are ex... haha. but sound quality is not bad.

Tama stagestar should be able to bring out the sound. i mean u have to change the heads. metal/rock i think depends more on the cymbals u purchase.

$550 with stock cymbals..

U can get a carlos brand new with stock cymbals. haha.

Yeap
 
retardedrummer said:
Hmm roland electronic sets are ex... haha. but sound quality is not bad.

Tama stagestar should be able to bring out the sound. i mean u have to change the heads. metal/rock i think depends more on the cymbals u purchase.

$550 with stock cymbals..

U can get a carlos brand new with stock cymbals. haha.

Yeap
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carlos the hardware makes it look like its gonna give way anytime lol.
 
Oh my, does it really? This carlos set is avaliable at ranking yeah? Would like to try out a few drum sets with its stock heads before deciding what to buy.
Haha ive got to check it out myself. But over the weekend when i come back. Currently overseas working. =)
But i do hope i can get a drum set soon.

Hmm so its more of the cymbals eh?
 
Hmm, got a question here. If a snare and a bass has only 6 lugs for tuning what would be the disadvantages? Im saying this in reference to a tama stagestar im probably getting (2nd hand). BTW totally newbie at this drum tuning thing. Need some person to actually show me.
Currently reading up on the drum tuning bible.
Also for heads as retardedrummer has stated above. The price ranges from 25 onwards and this is only for a single head? Or does it come in a set?
 
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i believe with fewer lugs, you get a wider tuning range, & of course, less hassle while tuning, as opposed to say, 8 or 10 lugs. But having more lugs allows you to tune to a much higher pitch.

just look up drum tuning in youtube, because they have alot of vids showing tuning demonstrations.

as for the drumheads, the price range given i believe is for individual heads. the tom packs i think are around $50... can't really remember though. the last time i bought new heads was like nearly a year ago.
 
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Ouch. Thats Kinda Expensive. ><
But i guess one does not need to change their heads rather frequently.
By the way, does anyone has any reviews about the Trapz E450 and the A400 drums?
 
6 lugs actually gives you a smaller tuning range.

With 8 to 10 lugs, you get to go into more details when you're tuning up the drum. Drums with 8 to 10 lugs are more versatile tuning-wise.

6 lug drums are usually just cranked up high, 'cos at that range they sound good. Don't think people play 6 luggers tuned down for that classic ballad backbeat.

0.02cts.

Skins might seem expensive, but play and tune them right and it's all worth the dough. I know people who have gone two years without changing out the skins on their kit. Stock skins (usually) are of inferior quality and do not last as long (Can't say for sure, I usually change them out quick).

Evans G1 tom packs are $40ish at Ranking, if I remember right. Not sure about G2.
 
Ah thanks Jeepers for the prompt reply.
True i guess, good care and proper tuning will get the skin worth all the money its paid for.
Hmm G1 and G2? Does that represent the number of ply of the head? And if so i believe G2 suits better for rock, heavier genre?
 
No problemo, matey.

Yes it does represent the number of plies in the the head. G1s are one-ply, 10 mil whereas G2s are two-ply, 7 mil each.

It depends, really. But yeah, it would be more suitable since I assume you would be hitting the drums pretty hard?
 
yingkaik said:
Hmm, got a question here. If a snare and a bass has only 6 lugs for tuning what would be the disadvantages? Im saying this in reference to a tama stagestar im probably getting (2nd hand).
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Stagestar FTW :) I have one too.

Being the slacker that I am, I've always found 6 luggers to be advantageous because it takes less time to change heads, and they're way easier/faster to tune when I was new to all this. I think those are plus points for a beginner. My kit is just used for home practice, so I don't really need nor expect it sound superb. That's why I didn't even bother changing out all the heads, only the batters. I was aiming for 'decent' and that's good enough for me.

Agree with Jeepers, the snare sounds quite usable cranked. I never used mine though, and sold it because I had other snares.

Because most low-end lines use less lugs to cut down on cost, the common perception is that it automatically = lousier. I personally feel that if the drum is built well, having fewer lugs isn't a disadvantage. Although one I can think of for the snare is that if you intend to crank it up ultra high, more lugs may distribute the higher tension more evenly. This isn't an issue with kick drums.

My two cents. Have fun man.
 
as for tuning, check out dis guy on youtube! juz type his name in : bob gatzen

i learned tuning frm him =D well sort of..
 
jeepers said:
It depends, really. But yeah, it would be more suitable since I assume you would be hitting the drums pretty hard?
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Yes jeepers, i have the tendency to hit the drums pretty hard. But i make an effort to hit the drumset evenly (when i actually do get a drumset in front of me. Eg. During jamming.) to get a even tone throughout while playing. I wonder if that is a good habit?
And knowing more about the lugs and g1s/g2s makes things clearer for me. At least now after years of air drumming and such i have some technical knowledge. Should be easier to communicate with the drum shops.

=)))
 
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