beware of soulflyjammers
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rimuel
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lololol!!!
akira
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LoL x 1,000,000,000 & never ends....
balloons
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why can't people accept the fact that buyers got the right to buy from ANYONE and Sellers got the right to sell to ANYONE?
It seems like a lot of people here thought their reservations or bringing out to let people test is a great deal and a big deal.
although it is almost like a 2nd hand trading zone here,why don't fuzzy people go and try out shops? they will certainly 'reserve' for you and let you test right? and don't buzz about shop people's facial expressions then.
Craps..
It seems like a lot of people here thought their reservations or bringing out to let people test is a great deal and a big deal.
although it is almost like a 2nd hand trading zone here,why don't fuzzy people go and try out shops? they will certainly 'reserve' for you and let you test right? and don't buzz about shop people's facial expressions then.
Craps..
Ized
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Well this happened to me once....once only but pissed me off. The situation went something like this:
for example, take this conversation i had with a certain softie who wanted to sell me his skreddy screwdriver:
softie: trade your tubezone for my skreddy SD?
me: Nope.
softie: ok, then you'll buy from me for 250 cash?
me: ok sure (sets time and place)
Next day, i sms him again.
me: so are we meeting again. Today right?
softie: yes.
me: ok, i got 250 in hand.
softie: no its not 250. its 290.
me: what!?
softie: I've never wanted to sell it for 250, you know i bought from malcom at 350, and bla bla bla long story.
me: look dude, you smsed me 250, and i still got the sms. I'll forward it to you.
softie: yeah but i'll be losing money.
me: as if thats my problem! if you don wanna sell at this price, den don quote me that price. simple logic aye!
luckily i smsed him earlier before meeting up with him, if not i would have made a wasted trip. Just one example of how sellers can be real asses also.....if you don wanna sell at this price....just dont quote it to the buyer...simple enough right?
for example, take this conversation i had with a certain softie who wanted to sell me his skreddy screwdriver:
softie: trade your tubezone for my skreddy SD?
me: Nope.
softie: ok, then you'll buy from me for 250 cash?
me: ok sure (sets time and place)
Next day, i sms him again.
me: so are we meeting again. Today right?
softie: yes.
me: ok, i got 250 in hand.
softie: no its not 250. its 290.
me: what!?
softie: I've never wanted to sell it for 250, you know i bought from malcom at 350, and bla bla bla long story.
me: look dude, you smsed me 250, and i still got the sms. I'll forward it to you.
softie: yeah but i'll be losing money.
me: as if thats my problem! if you don wanna sell at this price, den don quote me that price. simple logic aye!
luckily i smsed him earlier before meeting up with him, if not i would have made a wasted trip. Just one example of how sellers can be real asses also.....if you don wanna sell at this price....just dont quote it to the buyer...simple enough right?
teokiatuan
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indianstallion
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99% is not equivalent to a reserve, you need to say at least 99.2% to qualify it as a reserve.
teokiatuan
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LOLLLLLLL10charsss
amnesiac
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Good thing you double checked before going to meet him to buy ths Screwdriver.
Anyway, how do you confirm something at 99%? How do you actually gauge it anyway? Why not say 99.9999%? lol.
The thing i learnt abt trades and deals is, money talks. Verbal agreements don't usually count. You wanna make a reservation, you gotta put down a deposit.
Anyway, how do you confirm something at 99%? How do you actually gauge it anyway? Why not say 99.9999%? lol.
The thing i learnt abt trades and deals is, money talks. Verbal agreements don't usually count. You wanna make a reservation, you gotta put down a deposit.
velvetrevolver
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well, something like tis happened to me couple of days back. if anyone here is gonna flame me or ask me to stop whining and stop crying like a baby, then i suggest you dont read. cos my aim here is warn other fellow softies about a bad seller, and to be wary of dealing wit ppl like him.
this dude, a junior member btw, wanted to sell me a distortion pedal.. initially he wanted to sell a pedal for $50, with an adaptor according to his post. after i sms him, he said.. "oh 60 with adaptor, sorry bro, adaptor buy at sweelee for $30." at first i refused, cos he's not sticking to his offer, as on the post. thinkin he might be a small kid needing some extra cash, i offered $55 as a compromise on my part. he agreed. and even held it for me till tuesday, when i was free to meet him.
so i was like ok, see u at so and so and wat time etc... the night before, he also sms me confirming the time and location.
on that day however, like few hours before the scheduled meeting, he sms me and say "sorry man, another guy offered 80, how now?". i mean, WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANNA OFFER U 80 FOR SOMETHING U SELLING AT $50??? he even went on to say that i "LOWBALLED SO BADLY" and i cant blame him for backing out of the deal. and said he needs to pay bills.
so? is it my fault he got bills to pay? NO. then why reserve for me and keep pestering me to faster deal then?
and pls, i didnt ask for a discount or lowball or anything. i am a working adult and $50++ means nothing much to me...
so i told him to go ahead and do wad ever he thinks is right, cos i really cant be bothered by this little boy and waste sms exchanges at that point. but not without telling him that i would have to warn others bout his bad attitude, which is the reason why i'm here. he didnt reply after that.
for those who wanna more bout this bad seller, i still have his details, and i still have his smses in my phone inbox. i can be reached thru PM if u wanna know his username. and like i said, if you're gonna flame me or ask me to stop whining, just click away from this page. my aim here is just to warn other bros here in soft.
cheers.
this dude, a junior member btw, wanted to sell me a distortion pedal.. initially he wanted to sell a pedal for $50, with an adaptor according to his post. after i sms him, he said.. "oh 60 with adaptor, sorry bro, adaptor buy at sweelee for $30." at first i refused, cos he's not sticking to his offer, as on the post. thinkin he might be a small kid needing some extra cash, i offered $55 as a compromise on my part. he agreed. and even held it for me till tuesday, when i was free to meet him.
so i was like ok, see u at so and so and wat time etc... the night before, he also sms me confirming the time and location.
on that day however, like few hours before the scheduled meeting, he sms me and say "sorry man, another guy offered 80, how now?". i mean, WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANNA OFFER U 80 FOR SOMETHING U SELLING AT $50??? he even went on to say that i "LOWBALLED SO BADLY" and i cant blame him for backing out of the deal. and said he needs to pay bills.
so? is it my fault he got bills to pay? NO. then why reserve for me and keep pestering me to faster deal then?
and pls, i didnt ask for a discount or lowball or anything. i am a working adult and $50++ means nothing much to me...
so i told him to go ahead and do wad ever he thinks is right, cos i really cant be bothered by this little boy and waste sms exchanges at that point. but not without telling him that i would have to warn others bout his bad attitude, which is the reason why i'm here. he didnt reply after that.
for those who wanna more bout this bad seller, i still have his details, and i still have his smses in my phone inbox. i can be reached thru PM if u wanna know his username. and like i said, if you're gonna flame me or ask me to stop whining, just click away from this page. my aim here is just to warn other bros here in soft.
cheers.
theliverevolution
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well, there are buys and sellers like that. but for your part i think u have the right to be angry. since you've alrady confirmed buying the pedal (100%) then the seller sholdn't have backed out at last minute
i had a couple of instances where ppl also do that AFTER CONFIRMING time and place. happens all the time
i had a couple of instances where ppl also do that AFTER CONFIRMING time and place. happens all the time
trowaclown
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Offer, agreement, consideration and intention to create a legal relationship.
You offered no consideration for the seller to hold onto the item for you for an extended period of time, so there's no contract. If there's no contract why can't he sell it to anyone he wants?
If the buyer claims that someone's offering him a higher price and asks for a new offer from you, by all means say no if you feel that it's too expensive. No offer no contract!
BIZ LAW IS KILLING MEEEEEEE.
You offered no consideration for the seller to hold onto the item for you for an extended period of time, so there's no contract. If there's no contract why can't he sell it to anyone he wants?
If the buyer claims that someone's offering him a higher price and asks for a new offer from you, by all means say no if you feel that it's too expensive. No offer no contract!
BIZ LAW IS KILLING MEEEEEEE.
Okay, then what is the 'consideration' required, a deposit? An oral contract is still a valid contract.
trowaclown
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Consideration is what is given in exchange for a promise to do something. You can't enforce his 'promise' to keep your item for you till next Sunday if you haven't actually done anything to make it worth his wait. The courts do not judge promises. They judge obligations.
If you haven't done anything to bound him to an obligation, then sorry next better player please.
If you haven't done anything to bound him to an obligation, then sorry next better player please.
So, by saying that 'I will make a deposit for the item' even though you're going to deal 30 minutes later constitutes an obligation?
So you mean that a reservation is worthless in the deal, since it's just a 'promise'?
Okay, by your statements, the most reliable way to secure a deal is through a deposit, which thereby validates the contract and the seller would be at fault if he withdraws the deal. mirite?
So you mean that a reservation is worthless in the deal, since it's just a 'promise'?
Okay, by your statements, the most reliable way to secure a deal is through a deposit, which thereby validates the contract and the seller would be at fault if he withdraws the deal. mirite?
trowaclown
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I didn't get the first paragraph.
For the second, yes. In the eyes of the law, yes. When trading with some esteemed members of this forum, no. This is an informal system at soft.com.sg man, and some people's words CAN be trusted. Not everyone's though.
Last one sounds right to me. But not because it validates the contract. The deposit seals the deal. You needn't pay a deposit just to make a contract. The point I was making earlier was, if there isn't consideration for the seller why would he agree to hold the item for you? Consideration might be anything. A sweet or a lollipop is considered valid too. Errrr. May I reiterate my hatred for biz law?
For the second, yes. In the eyes of the law, yes. When trading with some esteemed members of this forum, no. This is an informal system at soft.com.sg man, and some people's words CAN be trusted. Not everyone's though.
Last one sounds right to me. But not because it validates the contract. The deposit seals the deal. You needn't pay a deposit just to make a contract. The point I was making earlier was, if there isn't consideration for the seller why would he agree to hold the item for you? Consideration might be anything. A sweet or a lollipop is considered valid too. Errrr. May I reiterate my hatred for biz law?
marilyn
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to ized n velvetrevolver, i just feel bad for you guys to have to meet ppl like that. trying to pull a fast one. I have been selling my stuff on soft now n then, and if i confirmed a deal with someone, whatever offers after that should not be entertained i feel, (unless maybe the person offer me 3 times the price, i share part of it with the buyer to shut his mouth)
a word of honour given is something sacred in my own principles and beliefs, my grandmother would say i am a fool, but at least i feel more like a man cos without them i am nothing.
recently just 2 nights ago i am being screwed badly over in a job contract just becos a certain person gave his word, but fail to honour it when we are gonna sign the contract last min and the job is supposed to be carried out next week, and i am not the only person on the suffering end, there other parties affected as well cos of this person.
now to the TS, dunno la but i guess some of the softies here raise a good point, 99% confirmed but not 100% so i guess u given the seller the 1% chance to backout and have his excuse not to entertainment u, but also hope by now u have already cool down more and just let it go la. your intentions were good in trying to warn us too which in your own opinion that the seller is someone not to be trusted so for now leave it up to the readers to decide.
and to ppl who got no sense of honour and always put yourself b4 others thinking that its better others die than to lose your own benefit, this thinking only serves to destroy yourself 1st. and i hope everyone here in soft have a nice day after u read this.
a word of honour given is something sacred in my own principles and beliefs, my grandmother would say i am a fool, but at least i feel more like a man cos without them i am nothing.
recently just 2 nights ago i am being screwed badly over in a job contract just becos a certain person gave his word, but fail to honour it when we are gonna sign the contract last min and the job is supposed to be carried out next week, and i am not the only person on the suffering end, there other parties affected as well cos of this person.
now to the TS, dunno la but i guess some of the softies here raise a good point, 99% confirmed but not 100% so i guess u given the seller the 1% chance to backout and have his excuse not to entertainment u, but also hope by now u have already cool down more and just let it go la. your intentions were good in trying to warn us too which in your own opinion that the seller is someone not to be trusted so for now leave it up to the readers to decide.
and to ppl who got no sense of honour and always put yourself b4 others thinking that its better others die than to lose your own benefit, this thinking only serves to destroy yourself 1st. and i hope everyone here in soft have a nice day after u read this.
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